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What attraction would you green light if you were CEO?
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WereMagicLives
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first beastly kingdom and a potter swatter inside it for DAK
DHS would be expanding pixar place to reach pizza planet by closing backlot tour and making a UP, Incredibles and monsters inc attractions along with a Gustos sit down restaurant after Ratatiouile
DHS would be expanding pixar place to reach pizza planet by closing backlot tour and making a UP, Incredibles and monsters inc attractions along with a Gustos sit down restaurant after Ratatiouile
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
I'm just getting this off my chest...
"Potter Swatter" is insipid. Bad name, bad concept, lets move on.
"Potter Swatter" is insipid. Bad name, bad concept, lets move on.
wizards8507
Active Member
This.
Also, I'll get THIS off MY chest:
It's a good thing we have all of these titans of industry roaming around these boards. The question was, "What attraction would you 'green light' if you were CEO," not, "What is the Holy Grail in your fanboy fantasy?"
Chrononymous
Well-Known Member
Well, I undertsnd budgets are tight and all. I would first greenlight something small.
I would spruce things up, slowly, and quietly starting with the MK
Tiki Room would get a refurb to a slightly updated version of it's original show.
Country Bears would have the Holiday and Vacation Hoedown shows restored. And maybe a brand new one too.
CoP would get an updated final scene.
All the classic attractions would get some TLC...and Adventurland would get some fountains again. It's a little thing, I know. But I miss fountains.
Eventually I would move on to Epcot, with plussing what is already there,(restoring Lights of winter, fixing the Fountain of Nations...that sort of thing)
Then the Yeti would be fixed in EE, and steam would return to the trains.
There probably isn't much plussing or refurbs that can be done in the Studios, without some serious overhauling. But moving the Hat would be my first order.
THEN, I would Greenlight new attractions.
I would spruce things up, slowly, and quietly starting with the MK
Tiki Room would get a refurb to a slightly updated version of it's original show.
Country Bears would have the Holiday and Vacation Hoedown shows restored. And maybe a brand new one too.
CoP would get an updated final scene.
All the classic attractions would get some TLC...and Adventurland would get some fountains again. It's a little thing, I know. But I miss fountains.
Eventually I would move on to Epcot, with plussing what is already there,(restoring Lights of winter, fixing the Fountain of Nations...that sort of thing)
Then the Yeti would be fixed in EE, and steam would return to the trains.
There probably isn't much plussing or refurbs that can be done in the Studios, without some serious overhauling. But moving the Hat would be my first order.
THEN, I would Greenlight new attractions.
tonganprince
Well-Known Member
MK - Something big in adventure land. Maybe Fire Mountain
Epcot - New country
DHS - Retire Indy and replace with the indy coaster in Cali
AK - Bomb dino land and start beastly proceedings
Epcot - New country
DHS - Retire Indy and replace with the indy coaster in Cali
AK - Bomb dino land and start beastly proceedings
PirateFrank
Well-Known Member
Why is it insipid? The competition currently presented by Uni is great....the idea that Disney needs to meet it is also great.
If WWOHP is something that is to be ignored by TDO...or worse, welcomed because it brings more people to florida (which I think is the only insipid aspect of this train of thought)....that's a problem.
TDO or Disney Parks as a whole should be reacting to WWOHP with all guns on deck. The fact that they do not appear to be doing anything is *very* disturbing....
menamechris
Well-Known Member
While I agree with you, Disney has made it pretty clear that they look at HP as pretty much a one-trick pony that will sizzle out. While I would like to see them response in some huge way like you - I can't argue that it makes good business sense to wait and see what happens with it in the next couple years. So far we are only looking the results of the first quarter, right? Will be interesting to see....
PirateFrank
Well-Known Member
I'm not so sure about that....I think HP has some legs. Plus, TDO can't out of one side of their mouth claim that HP doesn't have legs while out of the other side, debate an attraction in tomorrowland based on an 80s flop of a movie and a not-very-successful reboot this past december that will be forgotten by march.
The current argument is that a tron-based attraction can be a success, independent of the success or failure of the movies. While I wholeheartedly agree that a good attraction is a good attraction......you can't dismiss the external threat of your competitors by using one set of rules and justify your internal plans by another set. It looks bad....
I've been hearing comments that TDO feels WWOHP is a good thing for them, because more people will come to florida to see it...and while they're there, they'll come to WDW. I suspect this is press-release hubris... Because I think if someone did a scientific/statistical attendance study, it would likely show that there is not much correlation between Uni's bump in attendance and WDW's attendance. Heck, hasn't there been discussion that WDW's experienced attendance drops over the past few years?
I strongly suspect that if WDW's attendance is on the way down (while Uni's is up) that the exact opposite is happening. People that otherwise would have spent a full week at WDW, are now renting cars (when they otherwise wouldnt) so they can divert 1-2 days of their vacation to Uni. That is a far more logical scenario....than someone flying into Orlando to Uni to see WWOHP....and deciding on adding WDW to the itinerary.
Just my $0.02....but if people are coming to WDW for 7 days and leaving the parks to see Uni for a day or two.....then the WWOHP threat is real and serious....
...and as of now, TDO doesn't appear to be taking it seriously.
menamechris
Well-Known Member
I agree they don't seem to be taking it seriously. I think the factor taken out of the equation when we look at a scenario like this is - Disney Ego. They know they are the richest, most capable, and have the space and ability to do great things - so they often times don't seem to try very hard. I think we expect a lot from Disney thanks to Michael Eisner and the "Disney Decade". His tenture set a standard of what should be expected from them. Unfortunately, I think the people in charge now don't think of themselves as being in entertainment - but rather on Wall Street. This is why we more often than not are being let down, because the powers-that-be are making shrewd business moves and deals, while we keep waiting for them to want to impress us. Sad to say, but I think those days are over until some new blood comes in with some real passion for the Disney brand and tradition of "plusing.
thewhitequeen
New Member
Australia in Epcot
Russia in Epcot
Put a ride in Germany/Epcot
Upgrade the movie in France/Epcot (it's old)
Monsters Inc. coaster
Some type of Pirates movie franchise land (they could really do something with this)
Upgrade the backlot tour or get rid of it entirely and put something worthwhile there - perhaps a Pirate Land or Cars Land
Rip down Swiss Family treehouse and put in an attraction
Replace the Beauty and the Beast Show
Replace Indy Show
Get the resort specific merchandise back
Put Main Street in MK back to 1987 - enough with the Princess junk
Get rid of deep discounts and revamp pricing structure so Deluxe resorts actually offer DELUXE service
Get rid of free dining
Get rid of 180 adr's
Have one resort where there is a child free pool/area
Enough with the junk gift shops - bring back unique merchandising
I'm sure I'll think of more.
Replace upper level management (ie. Iger and Crofton) - they stink
I don't ask for much.
Russia in Epcot
Put a ride in Germany/Epcot
Upgrade the movie in France/Epcot (it's old)
Monsters Inc. coaster
Some type of Pirates movie franchise land (they could really do something with this)
Upgrade the backlot tour or get rid of it entirely and put something worthwhile there - perhaps a Pirate Land or Cars Land
Rip down Swiss Family treehouse and put in an attraction
Replace the Beauty and the Beast Show
Replace Indy Show
Get the resort specific merchandise back
Put Main Street in MK back to 1987 - enough with the Princess junk
Get rid of deep discounts and revamp pricing structure so Deluxe resorts actually offer DELUXE service
Get rid of free dining
Get rid of 180 adr's
Have one resort where there is a child free pool/area
Enough with the junk gift shops - bring back unique merchandising
I'm sure I'll think of more.
Replace upper level management (ie. Iger and Crofton) - they stink
I don't ask for much.
CaptainWinter
Active Member
Mostly FW fixes. Here's the order.
1. Fix JII. This is the worst blight on WDW IMO. This includes remaking the abandoned post-show area. (We used to spend a half day in JII alone, back in the 80s.)
2. Repair the Yeti, whatever it takes.
3. Implement whatever they have planned for the 2nd half of SSE.
4. Repopulate WoL with something. I don't know if they have plans for it but I'd fill it with something related to math/computation/engineering. Building an attraction to match that theme would be a return to the 80s FW vision.
1. Fix JII. This is the worst blight on WDW IMO. This includes remaking the abandoned post-show area. (We used to spend a half day in JII alone, back in the 80s.)
2. Repair the Yeti, whatever it takes.
3. Implement whatever they have planned for the 2nd half of SSE.
4. Repopulate WoL with something. I don't know if they have plans for it but I'd fill it with something related to math/computation/engineering. Building an attraction to match that theme would be a return to the 80s FW vision.
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
Should Disney offer more? YES! God YES!
But I'm not talking about Disney. I'm talking about here and the use of "Potter Swatter." It's a them vs us mentality that doesn't actually work in the real world.
The Eisner way of looking at the parks and Orlando doesn't work. WDW hasn't always been like this, and for good reason.
I work at Universal and let me tell you that Potter is the real deal and they are going to expand. My manager told me that they have to expand it, it's in the contract. So expect that announcment in the next year or so. So I agree with many on here that fantasyland is not the Potter swatter. Something else is going to be and I bet it'll be in response to the expansion.
menamechris
Well-Known Member
Well, if Disney is aware of this, MAYBE this could be a reason why nothing has been done yet. Maybe they are waiting for the HP area to be expanded to respond in any way. I doubt it, but maybe they are taking this time to really imagine something great as opposed to throwing something together. I can't help but think Disney has too many projects going on right now for that to be the case. They ARE spending money - the expansion, the new cruise ships, the new Animation resort, oversea projects, the billion dollar overhaul of DCA, etc. - it's just not where the vast majority of us would like to see it being spent...
jjharvpro
Active Member
Many people I know have been doing this. WDW for a few, then Uni for 1 or 2 days..This could mean something.
jjharvpro
Active Member
Very true, IMO.
We'll see @ the D23 Expo this year, they will, they HAVE to annouce something BIG. It's what we're all expecting!
mharrington
Well-Known Member
If I were CEO, I would do more things at WDW than I could ever begin to mention. But here's a few things I would do that I'm sure a lot of us would be only too happy to see happen...
I would start by willingly taking a cut in the pay raise for what Iger received. Basically, I would swallow my pride and be totally anti towards fattening the already-overly-fat cats. Next, I would abate price hikes. In the end, I would actually reduce prices. To do this, I would start by slowly but surely leveling off the hikes, gradually raising prices less and less often, so as to keep too many bean counters from catching on, then letting the prices stay where they are for a few years or so, and then, just as slowly but surely, start reducing prices again.
And, of course, I would update all the parks, one by one. But those are all in the Imagineering section.
And you know what I would do then? I would actually stop interfering with park management! Believe it or not, before Disneyland Paris' opening and pitiful reception, Eisner's team actually did leave the parks to their own devices, albeit provided with more attractions and other facilities to market and generate revenue from.
I would start by willingly taking a cut in the pay raise for what Iger received. Basically, I would swallow my pride and be totally anti towards fattening the already-overly-fat cats. Next, I would abate price hikes. In the end, I would actually reduce prices. To do this, I would start by slowly but surely leveling off the hikes, gradually raising prices less and less often, so as to keep too many bean counters from catching on, then letting the prices stay where they are for a few years or so, and then, just as slowly but surely, start reducing prices again.
And, of course, I would update all the parks, one by one. But those are all in the Imagineering section.
And you know what I would do then? I would actually stop interfering with park management! Believe it or not, before Disneyland Paris' opening and pitiful reception, Eisner's team actually did leave the parks to their own devices, albeit provided with more attractions and other facilities to market and generate revenue from.
