smk
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Where's the rest of the park?Found a picture here titled "Dubailand from Helicopter on March 7th 2006":
It looks kinda........ARID :lookaroun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dubailand2006.jpg#file
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WDW vs Dubailand
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DisneyChik17
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Like a dessert?
In all seriousness, I agree. I don't want to travel all that distance to ride a roller coaster in an oven. Give me 90s and humidity everyday. (And trust me, we get in the summer.)
jmani56
Member
If this place is nearly twice the size of WDW, we are talking nearly a hundred square miles. WDW is the most visited place in the world and it handles all those people without even touching over half of it's property. I have been to WDW SEVERAL times, even lived there on the CP, and still haven't done everything. I think its just hype to say that it's twice the size of WDW...maybe they meant just Magic Kingdom lol.
I hope that it turns out great, but I wouldn't call it a threat. Walt Disney World is so distinct that it has it's own culture when you step on property. I don't care how many roller coasters people build in any country, including the USA, nobody can seem to create the magic like Disney. WDW is a work of art; its feels huge yet feels like a small town at the same time. It's hard to top on a number of levels.
I hope that it turns out great, but I wouldn't call it a threat. Walt Disney World is so distinct that it has it's own culture when you step on property. I don't care how many roller coasters people build in any country, including the USA, nobody can seem to create the magic like Disney. WDW is a work of art; its feels huge yet feels like a small town at the same time. It's hard to top on a number of levels.
ThumperDude
New Member
If it ever developes, and knowing what Dubia is capable of, I still think it will be just another theme park. Disney is a cultural, historical, world wide institution established in the minds of millions of people over many generations.
TimeTrip
Well-Known Member
I dunno, Dubai is developing some pretty crazy stuff that I'm sure people said the same thing about...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_al-Arab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Dubai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Islands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Islands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Mall
They also have a pretty sweet water park out there that probably gives typhoon lagoon or blizzard beach a run for its money:
http://www.wildwadi.com/
darthjohnny
Active Member
I doubt that many Americans would go to the Middle East so they could go to a park there and miss out on Disney. What's the point, unless you really want to go to some place new? But it wouldn't affect WDW at all. (Besides, why would someone not want to go to Disney? 
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DisneyChik17
Well-Known Member
I think The World Islands are the coolest thing I have ever seen. They showed them on VH1 a few times and I was just astounded. Dubai is becoming a very popular and prosperus(sp?) place. The mall has so many high fashion boutiques and upscale stores it is rediculous. If they could find a way to cool that place of about 40 degrees, I would so go there.
It's not the Americans I am so worried about. But there are plenty of visitors from other countries, particularly Europe and Asia, who might choose Dubai over either WDW or Disneyland Paris or Tokyo Disney or HK Disney. And even if they don't feel WDW has to really do anything to compete, will they decide they need to put more money into those other parks and less into the US parks?
WaltzingMatilda
Member
Brief departure from the topic for a moment... Hasn't the above response reached "no longer original" status yet?quote]
Pardon me for boring you with my "un-originality". I was unaware that opinions had to be unique in order to be worthwhile. Thanks so much for pointing it out to me.
DisneyYorkian74
Active Member
Once again, I'm going to have to ask you why you feel like "Dubai" is the same as "WDW?"
WDW is much more than just 4 theme parks so going to "Dubai" is not going to give the same experience the tourists that come to WDW are looking for.
Why do you also think the theme park "Dubai" is offering is unique or special enough to pull in a lot of tourists.
When you think about it, (and please correct me if I'm wrong but...) Walt Disney World is the only place on earth where all the tourists come solely for the theme parks.
All the other Disney properties rely on a strong local fanbase for most of their business.
My point being that theme/amusement parks are not known for pulling in a large amount of national/international tourists with the exception being, ofcourse, Walt Disney World.
WDW Monorail
Well-Known Member
Lets see how mant Brazilian Tour groups end up going to Dubai instead of WDW.
Dubai has a lot of capital and all of their projects such as "The World" in man-made islands and the indoor ski resort are supported by the government.
The Bourj a Arab contains the most expensive hotel room in the world.
I believe the Dubai is a bit of a show off if I may say so.
It primarily attracts the business world and European holidayers second. I wonder how many professional business would get themselves to appear in a poorly themed thrill ride based theme park?
Dubai has a lot of capital and all of their projects such as "The World" in man-made islands and the indoor ski resort are supported by the government.
The Bourj a Arab contains the most expensive hotel room in the world.
I believe the Dubai is a bit of a show off if I may say so.
It primarily attracts the business world and European holidayers second. I wonder how many professional business would get themselves to appear in a poorly themed thrill ride based theme park?
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Based on what I have read and saw in recent weeks about Dubai and UK holiday travel
1. WDW largest foreign group is the UK visitor, several UK tour operators believe that most casual visitors have now ticked that box and are scaling back Orlando and Florida as a destination, Dubai and China the big new must do's
2. Dubai, is aggressively marketing itself as an upscale destination for both business and tourists, and unlike most of other destinations, money, political will and available resources are not an issue ( it helps if the money and the govt are one and the same.) Flights are much cheaper than to the US also.
3. Its not going to happen over night but I saw Crown prince whatever being interviewed and the concept of leisure and tourism and this is no fly by night project. Perhaps WDW is not the true competitor, more aimed at Vegas style destinations etc without the gambling.
4. The threats posed buy middle eastern travel are likely to be perceived differently buy Europeans than those from the US.
5. Those who are knocking the Six flag style theme park, have obviously never visited a European one.
Personally, Dubai would be a 3 or 4 night stay for me, just to tick the box and there are some very good deals available, and again it may detract from the New York traveller.
1. WDW largest foreign group is the UK visitor, several UK tour operators believe that most casual visitors have now ticked that box and are scaling back Orlando and Florida as a destination, Dubai and China the big new must do's
2. Dubai, is aggressively marketing itself as an upscale destination for both business and tourists, and unlike most of other destinations, money, political will and available resources are not an issue ( it helps if the money and the govt are one and the same.) Flights are much cheaper than to the US also.
3. Its not going to happen over night but I saw Crown prince whatever being interviewed and the concept of leisure and tourism and this is no fly by night project. Perhaps WDW is not the true competitor, more aimed at Vegas style destinations etc without the gambling.
4. The threats posed buy middle eastern travel are likely to be perceived differently buy Europeans than those from the US.
5. Those who are knocking the Six flag style theme park, have obviously never visited a European one.
Personally, Dubai would be a 3 or 4 night stay for me, just to tick the box and there are some very good deals available, and again it may detract from the New York traveller.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
A bit like Kodak in JIYI v9.32 you mean?
GoofyMike29
New Member
Cool Yes...Threat No
Yes Dubai does sound amazing. I have been following the development for roughly two years now and I will be one of the millions of American tourists who travel to Dubai. I think you could look at this as just another development in the overall tourists industry, and not necessarily a "threat" to Disney World. Look at Las Vegas, it is HUGE and has just as many, if not more, shows and hotels than Disney, yet Disney is still doing all right.
Yes Dubai does sound amazing. I have been following the development for roughly two years now and I will be one of the millions of American tourists who travel to Dubai. I think you could look at this as just another development in the overall tourists industry, and not necessarily a "threat" to Disney World. Look at Las Vegas, it is HUGE and has just as many, if not more, shows and hotels than Disney, yet Disney is still doing all right.
Have you ever seen anything on Dubai? The UAE, and Dubai in particular, right now are some of the richest countries due to oil reserves. Unlike many of the other countries, they are also a little more westernized in their thinking, and they have basically come to realize that some day, their oil is going to run out. So their goal is, while they still have the money, to turn themselves into the entertainment capital of the world. They are targeting Las Vegas, and Disneyland and Hong Kong, pretty much head on. They have put p already some absolutely amazing things - artificial islands, the only 7 star resort in the world, and this is just the city.
DubailLand, which is a theme park being built in Dubai, is planned out to be twice as large as WDW. I am not saying it absolutely will be better than Disney. But they are pouring an awful lot of money into it, and they are shooting quite high.
This is, at least as far as I see, the first legitimate possible competition for Disney world wide. So far, Disney has been so far beyond any other park that they have hardly had to respond. My question in a nutshell is - will this project, even though it is in another part of the world, actually be steady competition? And if so, will it hurt or will it help Disney?
JikoMarie
New Member
It's called travelling - experiencing another part of the world, different culture, seeing different things. You have to do this to travel to Europe and a multitude of North Americans do that every year. Heck, I have to do all that minus crossing the Atlantic to get to WDW.
Scottnj, you quoted me but I really don't think I said anything all the political. All that I did was correct those that said nobody travels to Dubai or the Middle East. That is clearly not the case. :shrug:
It's still being built. The bits that are functional right now are a small drop in the bucket.
No they are referring to all of WDW and DL combined.
This is exactly how I feel about the matter. Let's face it. Many people have already been to WDW. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. It's not that it's not a wonderful place but I know that I, for instance, could never go every year. I want to see other things too. So I think Dubailand seems pretty interesting to travels like me.
Pardon me for boring you with my "un-originality". I was unaware that opinions had to be unique in order to be worthwhile. Thanks so much for pointing it out to me.
It was a clever line the first time someone wrote it. Since then it's just been repeated time and time again by people who can't come up with an original thing to say on their own. Truthfully, how is "one less person in line" ahead of you going to make a noticeable difference to you? It won't, right? Because it was essentially a joke. The problem is that it was someone else's joke, so it stopped being clever the first time someone else repeated it. Now it's just an annoying response to read.
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
It was a clever line the first time someone wrote it. Since then it's just been repeated time and time again by people who can't come up with an original thing to say on their own. Truthfully, how is "one less person in line" ahead of you going to make a noticeable difference to you? It won't, right? Because it was essentially a joke. The problem is that it was someone else's joke, so it stopped being clever the first time someone else repeated it. Now it's just an annoying response to read.
Wow, did someone run over your dog or something??
I consider that line a running joke on these boards... Just like talking about "The Ladder", a 5th gate, monorail expansion, harry potter, etc... But that might not be something someone like you would be familiar with, seeing as how you're fairly new to the boards.
Regardless, it's not your job to judge other people's comments. That's not what this board is for... And your comment did nothing for the main point of this thread. Much like this post didn't help the thread. But geez. Just back off already.
Now back to your regularly scheduled topic... :wave:
JikoMarie
New Member
It was a clever line the first time someone wrote it. Since then it's just been repeated time and time again by people who can't come up with an original thing to say on their own. Truthfully, how is "one less person in line" ahead of you going to make a noticeable difference to you? It won't, right? Because it was essentially a joke. The problem is that it was someone else's joke, so it stopped being clever the first time someone else repeated it. Now it's just an annoying response to read.
I agree. Especially when more than one person makes the same "joke" on the same thread (like this one).