WDW To Enforce FP+ Rules

[nickys]

My guess, this didn't happen at all and we are all assuming it is related to the new suggestion that Disney is locking things down. Several days have passed now and there is barely a whisper of people saying this is happening. My guess, if it was happening, we would be seeing many more reports of it. The in park kiosks are locked down but from the lack of any examples anywhere besides maybe one or two so far makes me think nothing is happening yet.

Well this was someone posting from a chat board to the forum. So she was admitting what had happened.

And it wasn't on that particular site but TP.

 

[Kman101]

My guess, this didn't happen at all and we are all assuming it is related to the new suggestion that Disney is locking things down. Several days have passed now and there is barely a whisper of people saying this is happening. My guess, if it was happening, we would be seeing many more reports of it. The in park kiosks are locked down but from the lack of any examples anywhere besides maybe one or two so far makes me think nothing is happening yet.

My guess is it did.

Why would people be posting about exploiting the system?

 

[RustySpork]

They are only deleting posts that discuss how to hack, they are not messing with posts that suggest they are locked out because they tried the hack. There is only one post suggesting they think it was locked out on that thread and it has been there for about 48 hours and has not been deleted. There is one other thread elsewhere saying they read that someone was locked out, they may be referring to the same post as they are not saying where this thread is. Prior to this week, you would see people posting constantly that the hack was still working and/or asking how it worked, not just at the DIS but all over...mostly at the DIS though. Now, nothing, except one pitiful post.

Right before the entire thread that discussed how to exploit FP+ was deleted several people reported accounts being locked and the OP had been updated with confirmation. I was reading it myself when it was deleted. I've also seen other threads there that are now gone also confirming that they've been locked out. You're only finding one post, but that doesn't mean there weren't more previously.

 

[awilliams4]

Well this was someone posting from a chat board to the forum. So she was admitting what had happened.

We will see. I would expect far more people posting about this if that was the case. Many posts prior to them getting deleted after the announcement was made talked about how some of the things still worked,

Right before the entire thread that discussed how to exploit FP+ was deleted several people reported accounts being locked and the OP had been updated with confirmation. I was reading it myself when it was deleted. I've also seen other threads there that are now gone also confirming that they've been locked out. You're only finding one post, but that doesn't mean there weren't more previously.

Hmmm, I haven't seen these that were deleted then, not sure why the one post was ignored and not deleted then. You won't find any other examples out there....yet anyway.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Often times when I visit I've got friends that may or may not join me on any given day. The change party Fastpass helps tremendously for this. Take for example, my recent trip I was staying with friends (husband and wife) and knew that she wasn't dumb enough to go into the parks when it was 95 degrees. But I had booked Fastpasses for her anyways any when another friend joined us in a park I could swap him into our Fastpass group. This is a wildly convenient feature and I'm not sure of a way around this that's also fair with advanced bookings.

If they removed advanced bookings (or reduced it to 2 or 1) then the need for "Change Party" is significantly reduced (as are the needs for tiers).

In all seriousness though, I think I've probably thought about the way the Fastpass system is setup more than some people that do it for a living.

 

[Kingoglow]

I still believe that it is a big problem if Disney doesn't lock down people using someone else's magicband in the park. I know that we all like to use Grandma's Mine Train fastpass for our own purposes, but it really isn't that hard to modify Grandma's Mine Train FP to Peter Pan weeks before you trip.

The real issue is that there are non-official tour guides out there that are paid to bring you into the park and allow you to use the fastpasses on their magic bands. Tour guide gives you their band, you goto the fastpass check point and tell them that Grandma didn't want to ride it. More fun for you. Or, as it is presented in this thread, more cheating.

This is the next big issue with the system.

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

I still believe that it is a big problem if Disney doesn't lock down people using someone else's magicband in the park. I know that we all like to use Grandma's Mine Train fastpass for our own purposes, but it really isn't that hard to modify Grandma's Mine Train FP to Peter Pan weeks before you trip.

The real issue is that there are non-official tour guides out there that are paid to bring you into the park and allow you to use the fastpasses on their magic bands. Tour guide gives you their band, you goto the fastpass check point and tell them that Grandma didn't want to ride it. More fun for you. Or, as it is presented in this thread, more cheating.

This is the next big issue with the system.

Is this for real???? There are fake tour guides who use numerous bands to scam the system? And people pay for this???
I must be really naïve - it's just hard to believe people actually go to such lengths to get more fp's. Really? We usually don't even use all of our 3 per day allotted ones, most of the time.........

 

[Jeffxz]

You'll still hit the turnstiles for MK before you use your FP. Good to go.

Unless you take the Express Bus.

Hopefully they have taken this into account.

 

[disneyworlddad]

You like running to kiosks and only having one at a time? You don't like being able to edit your times, switch FP selections, etc.?

Give us the best of both Worlds, no booking FP+ until your in the park but being able to do it from your MDE account on your smartphone. Still able to edit times, switch FP+ selections. Account would become active once your park ticket is used for park entry.

 

[MaximumEd]

Unless you take the Express Bus.

Hopefully they have taken this into account.

Yeah. They'd have to have a way to scan your band to make sure you're entitled to hop.

 

[LukeS7]

Yeah. They'd have to have a way to scan your band to make sure you're entitled to hop.

If I recall correctly (and I might be entirely wrong), but I think they did scan our bands whenever we checked in for the express bus. It would probably just be a matter of also collecting the info of which park they're going to at the same time

 

[flynnibus]

Again... No way in hell will disney be locking accounts enmass. It goes against every other CS mindset Disney follows. Block the activity, remove the FPs, yes. Lock out MDE profiles? No way Disney is going to do that automatically and in bulk. Force you to call guest services... sure. The scare of having to call GS and keep 'fixing' things will work as the deterrent and Disney can track how many times a profile gets into these states and deal with it then at a human level.

You won't hear mass stories of 'MY MDE DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!" - because Disney isn't going to do it. That doesn't mean Disney isn't making changes or won't keep the ban hammer on standby.

Disney has fired a warning shot... they aren't on a rage.

 

[Rider]

When using Express Transportation do they scan your ticket? You would think they would be doing that even before FP changes to keep people without park hoppers from hopping. Also to keep their stats updated on the number of people in each park.

Edit: beaten

 

[freediverdude]

Give us the best of both Worlds, no booking FP+ until your in the park but being able to do it from your MDE account on your smartphone. Still able to edit times, switch FP+ selections. Account would become active once your park ticket is used for park entry.

I like the idea, but the problem with that would be unless you're in the parks early in the morning, you would never get a fastpass for the hard to get rides again. Remember the stress with getting a TSMM fastpass back during the paper fastpass days.

 

[freediverdude]

Sounds like this is what she did. She knew she couldn't use "auntie's" band in the park, so transferred auntie's fastpass to herself. That's what caused her account to be flagged. She tried their "New get-around" and got flagged for it. Because she went to GS, they unflagged her account but all the remaining fps for that day on "auntie's" account were deleted.

Well that's what I'm wondering, is if the change party fastpasses have also been blocked, I haven't heard anything about that. That would be nice if true, it would allow more fastpasses at 60 days or 30 days if people couldn't use those phantom accounts. I only have a weekday select pass right now so I can't really test it.

 

[Viget]

I am confused. What is this talk of changing parties for FP? Even if you made a FP selection for a phantom user (or real friend) who isn't going to the park that day, don't you still need their MB to use it? I thought no individual can hold more than 3 pre-selected FP per day. How could you transfer those FP to your user profile and MB?

 

[peter11435]

I am confused. What is this talk of changing parties for FP? Even if you made a FP selection for a phantom user (or real friend) who isn't going to the park that day, don't you still need their MB to use it? I thought no individual can hold more than 3 pre-selected FP per day. How could you transfer those FP to your user profile and MB?

You could transfer it to your profile once you used your initial 3.

 

[larryz]

Why would people be posting about exploiting the system?

You must be new here.

 

[Viget]

You could transfer it to your profile once you used your initial 3.

Man, I would never had thought of that... that is truly sneaky.

I have an AP and tried to make FPs at Epcot just now for 30 days out(my wife also has an AP), and I made one for Soarin' and her for Frozen and it wouldn't allow me to transfer her Frozen to my account (it said I already had an experience selected from that list). Don't worry, I cancelled all of them!

But yeah, after the initial 3, I see it now. You could also get around the park hopping ban with FP that way too.

Couldn't you also do a variant of this though still "legally" if you had Grandma and Grandpa and little ones with you who say can't ride or don't want to ride FoP that day? You could select FOP FP+s for your entire party (2 early in the day for you and the spouse, the others (kids plus Grandparents much later in the day) as one of the 3, go do NRJ standby, do 2 other rides with the entire family that you have FPs for in the AK, and then transfer the little ones' and grandparents unused later FOP FP's to your accounts later (since you'll have used your 3?).

I mean, I guess that's the same as abusing the switch pass, but is it? Everyone whose MB was scanned was in the park that day....

 

[Kman101]

You must be new here.

LOL