Maybe there's someone at Disney now who is laughing at the number of complaint letters they're getting. Hey...that could be their problem! :hammer:
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WDW losing it's magic??
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Maybe there's someone at Disney now who is laughing at the number of complaint letters they're getting. Hey...that could be their problem! :hammer:
Fun2BFree
Active Member
True, however I was addressing your view that "Expectations at Disney World are higher than any other vacation destination in the world" was an opinion and not a fact. It's entirely relevant. We need to compare WDW to its competition and to all areas of life in general to determine whether it's losing its magic or if we are simply too cynical to believe in 'magic'.
Couple of points here....
First, it may be a matter of interpretation. I interpreted "any other vacation destination in the world" to mean just that... any other vacation destination. In other words, not just theme parks. If you meant to say "Expectations at Disney World are higher than any other theme park in the world", then that's more of an apple to apple comparison.
Secondly, and as I explained in another post, I didn't state that it was opinion, not fact. You misunderstood me. I asked Zuzupetals if this was just his opinion or if he was basing it on some actual data (such as perhaps a survey or something).
All that aside, MY opinion (FWIW) is as follows: I do not believe that expectations at WDW are higher than any other vacation destination in the world, mostly because it's difficult to say what each person's individual expectations are without asking those individuals. Obviously in gathering data on a subject such as this, you statistically wouldn't need to ask everyone. You would just need to ask a representative sampling (anyone who understands statistics knows that). I've yet to see any surveys or other information that shows what people's expectation levels are of Disney compared to other places. And that depends hugely on the demographic involved. If I'm someone who is really into racing, for example, and I'm not really into theme parks, then my expectations of a vacation to the Indy 500 are probably going to be higher than those of a trip to WDW. If I'm really into country music, then my expectations of a visit to Branson, MO would be higher than those of a trip to WDW. You get the idea I'm sure.
Conversely, if we're just limiting the comparison to theme parks, then the demographic becomes more narrowed down. Using that as a basis, then it's still impossible to say with certainty without polling people. However, my OPINION would be that yes, expectations are probably generally higher for WDW.
All of that, though, was really just a side comment that was a slight stray from the topic at hand. The actual topic, of course, being the discussion of whether or not Disney was losing it's magic.
And yes, it is.
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Disney World is still the best place to go for a family vacation. The only people who complain about it are the people who can't be there.
Elonwy
Member
Honestly...and yes I expect to get blasted for this one...one of the things that can kill the Disney magic is reading these boards. I realize that it's one thing for me to go a couple of times a year and sometimes have over a year in between trips compared to AP's that go several times a year (or a month) but I don't notice every little tiny speck of dust that's out of place because I'm just happy to be there.
If I took these boards too seriously I would spend my whole time on Splash Mountain taking notes on whether the possums eye's blinked or of the sunlight at 2:45 catches the entrance to the drop making an exit door visible.
Disney magic is not dead, not in me anyway. I get excited for every Disney trip I go on and I get excellent service. rarely have an issue, but when i do I have always been satisfied with the outcome.
I can let go, relax, have fun, immerse myself in the theming, characters, food and attractions and feel the magic.
I'm not saying everything is perfect all the time. I was disappointed to be there when HM was under refurb because that's one of my faves but if that ruins the magic...it's not Disney's fault.
Compared to my other travels, my Disney vacations are easy. And that is compared to destinations around the world...not just other theme parks
I just feel like anyone who has lost the magic should just stay away until you get it back.
If I took these boards too seriously I would spend my whole time on Splash Mountain taking notes on whether the possums eye's blinked or of the sunlight at 2:45 catches the entrance to the drop making an exit door visible.
Disney magic is not dead, not in me anyway. I get excited for every Disney trip I go on and I get excellent service. rarely have an issue, but when i do I have always been satisfied with the outcome.
I can let go, relax, have fun, immerse myself in the theming, characters, food and attractions and feel the magic.
I'm not saying everything is perfect all the time. I was disappointed to be there when HM was under refurb because that's one of my faves but if that ruins the magic...it's not Disney's fault.
Compared to my other travels, my Disney vacations are easy. And that is compared to destinations around the world...not just other theme parks
I just feel like anyone who has lost the magic should just stay away until you get it back.
Montyboy
New Member
Just for fun, do a search on reviews of 128oz of Tuscan whole milk sold by Amazon.
This will give you an extreme example of the reliability of internet reviews.
wvdisneyfamily
Well-Known Member
Magic is in the eye of the beholder. If you look for the bad stuff, then that's what you'll find. I'm not saying to turn a blind eye to everything, but just consider your blessings before you complain.
"Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved." - Walt Disney
Elonwy
Member
wonderful quote from Walt..exactly the viewpoint he should have and luckily for me...exactly the opposite of my own.
scheat
Active Member
As in most arguments the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Disney World is probably not quite as magical as it once was,(Walt has been gone a while now and things change) though still close. The internet revolution has probably caused a lot of people to be a little more cynical and have a little too much information that just slightly ruins things a little bit when they are there.
girlface
New Member
I think its because people start to look for quirks at disney.
They expect it to be perfect but they forget its not actually run by fairies
Unfortunately, evidence suggests that few, if any, Disney execs of today share Walt's viewpoint, much less his practice of spending time in the parks and on the attractions ensuring show quality. I think it's perfectly appropriate for Disney fans to take on the responsibility as self-proclaimed "keepers of the show quality" if we wish too (especially if Disney execs couldn't care less about the quality themselves).
It's unfortunate that there are some people on these boards who take the attitude that guest feedback is something to "laugh at" (see post #36 of this thread), and sadly that probably is the attitude of many Disney execs (As long as people continue to pay to enter the parks, what's the point of investing in quality?)
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
No its all in your mind, Disneyworld is always perfect, any bad experiences are down to your own over zealous expectations. The Disney way is the only way, and failure to appreciate its unfailing wonderfulness will see a virus fall upon your computer and a swift visit from some of the Special Disney Forces who will stick fairy god mothers wand where the sun doesnt shine. Then you may have grounds to question the all powerful all knowing infallible worlds top theme park operating rodent and his friends.
Now get with the program or be prepared to visit IASW ...........permanently
Now get with the program or be prepared to visit IASW ...........permanently
Elonwy
Member
I don't mind so much when people see something amiss on an attraction and if it really bothers them, reporting it to Disney in some capacity (to a CM, to guests servcies, through e-mail...whatever)
As for me, I would find it to be a very stressful trip to be looking for these things and I suspect sometimes people try to look for ways Disney has failed just like they're looking for hidden Mickeys.
I honestly think that some people get some happiness out of finding these failures, and if they do, then that's fine...search away. I guarantee you, you will, find something.
I tend to not notice a lot of the things that people have complianed about, possibly because I just don't get to see the attractions as much as many people on here have and possibly because, I don;t WANT to see them. Yes, I may have rose coloured glasses on but that works for me. I like it that way.
I think these two types of guests can easily co-exist in one happy place. The position I don't agree with are the people who see something wrong and blather on and on and on about how and why it needs to change but they don't tell the right people. I know that Disney isn't going to change evry little thing that bothers each guest but in my opinion, if you don't want to tell Disney your complaint then don't tell anyone else either.
Also, on a side note, I was able to go on a soft opening of Test Track several years ago with one of the "suits" from Disney, have no idea to this day who he was but he asked a lot of us after the ride what our thoughts were he also spoke with an 8 or 9 year old boy (son of a CM on the ride) who proceeded to tell the suit what he thought of every ride so far.
Well the suit took notes, and asked the boy questions and then asked him to go on the Imagination ride with him because he was interested in hearing some more thoughts.
Whether anything happened with those notes...who knows but it was nice to see that the opinion of an 8 year old boy was at least being heard by a Disney bigwig.
btw, I don't know how you spell or say the guys name but it sounded like Caligreedos? I'm sure someone on here will decipher it and be able to tell me who it was.
Dragonrider1227
Well-Known Member
It's not perfect, but I think Disney World still has it's magic. The Disney CHANNEL on the other hand... :lookaroun