Walt Disney's Epcot vs. Today's Epcot

Which Epcot do you prefer?

  • Walt's Epcot

    Votes: 12 37.5%
  • The Epcot it is today

    Votes: 20 62.5%

  • Total voters
    32

cba

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Which do you prefer, the Experimental Prototype Community/City Of Tomorrow that Walt envisioned:


Or today's theme park?
(from wdwmagic.com)
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The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
I might prefer a turkey leg up me .... over current Epcot.

Classic EPCOT Center, that I woud prefer over Walt's vision. Walt's vision was rushed, the hurried effort of a man whose days were numbered. A concept. Like the many concepts that led to Disneyland. It was all very interesting, but would it have been fun to visit EPCOT the city, America's capitalist-corporate answer to utopian socialist Brasilia?

I like WDW as a holiday destination. I love it, love EPCOT. I can't see that an experimental city would've had the same impact on my life.
 
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Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Walt's dream of EPCOT, was just that, a dream. I have no doubt if he had lived he would have spent every nickel the Disney Co. had to try and make it work, but, it is my feeling that it just wouldn't have. Maybe when it was first started but by now it would have been sold into scrap. That system has been tried before and it never works over the long haul. So, in spite of it's flaws, which in recent years are plentiful, Epcot Ctr. is far better then the ghost town that EPCOT (the city) would have been by now.:(
 
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ddbowdoin

Well-Known Member
kind of an apples and oranges comparison...

kind of why we get these, vs these... sometimes the vision of a genius is impractical and unavailable to the masses.

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GrumpyFan

Well-Known Member
I prefer what they built over what Walt planned. That said, though, I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if he lived another 10 years or so and had the opportunity to build his vision. Sadly, I think it would have ruined him and the company as we now know it, at the least it would have ruined the WDW we all know and love. While it was an incredible and grand plan that had its merits, I just don't see how he could have pulled all the pieces together to make it work without bankrupting the company. I also tend to believe that he wouldn't be all that pleased with what was done with the property. It just seemed like in his last days, he had changed direction and was trying to do something different.
 

Polydweller

Well-Known Member
Would like to be able to answer classic EPCOT Center
Me too!

When I look at the plans and the model of Walt's Epcot it doesn't look at all practical. That city woud have had major expansion and rejuvenation problems. I always have thought that the plans were either a major trial balloon to try to get investors interested or put out as another elaborate way to throw people off the real plans for the Florida project.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
Let's look at this a bit broader. Walt's vision of what was right for the "Florida Project" was clouded by a demographic misunderstanding. When the park was being developed and opened, they planned on an older clientele, given this was in Florida. Senior citizens, retirees, etc, plus Florida families. They never imagined that WDW would be the travel destination it became. So the EPCOT imagined by Walt, needed to become the "theme park EPCOT" that it eventually became. I for one, would have loved to see Walt's vision fully realized. I was (and still am) a very geeky child who wanted to see this work.

This is still a place to discover the world in a theme park setting. To many Americans this is the most of the outside world they will discover. I encounter people who eat nothing but fried chicken nuggets, meat and potatoes. I encounter people who never tour the world; I encounter people who have never used public transportation; all in EPCOT. There is something that reaches them here.
 

Glasgow

Well-Known Member
EPCOT is my fav park, love the perceived dichotomy of WS and FW .. unfortunately FW has lost its way, but a few overhauls will set it straight it again. WoL, JIYI and UoA need updating (or opening, in the case of WoL) .. otherwise, its all there.
 

GrumpyFan

Well-Known Member
When I look at the plans and the model of Walt's Epcot it doesn't look at all practical. That city woud have had major expansion and rejuvenation problems. I always have thought that the plans were either a major trial balloon to try to get investors interested or put out as another elaborate way to throw people off the real plans for the Florida project.

Interesting thought, but none of the people who were around after he died, ever mentioned anything like this. I've never heard it mentioned by any of them, but I would be curious what the general consensus was among them. Did they think "the old man's gone off his rocker", or "this is brilliant, let's do it". I tend to think they were probably more along the lines of the first thought, since what they built was nothing at all like what Walt envisioned, at least not in its function.
 

GrumpyFan

Well-Known Member
Let's look at this a bit broader. Walt's vision of what was right for the "Florida Project" was clouded by a demographic misunderstanding. When the park was being developed and opened, they planned on an older clientele, given this was in Florida. Senior citizens, retirees, etc, plus Florida families. They never imagined that WDW would be the travel destination it became. So the EPCOT imagined by Walt, needed to become the "theme park EPCOT" that it eventually became. I for one, would have loved to see Walt's vision fully realized. I was (and still am) a very geeky child who wanted to see this work.

Perhaps, but Walt's Epcot was not a theme park, it was a bold new concept on the urban metroplex in an attempt to redefine what a major city center could be.
 

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