SoFloMagic
Well-Known Member
They already have our money, and if they sell a standard ticket they can sell the park twice.
Also, I find it hilarious that we finally have a fall with no MNSSHP and they're still closing MK at 6
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Also, I find it hilarious that we finally have a fall with no MNSSHP and they're still closing MK at 6
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think the problem is they don’t feel like they have ENOUGH of your money. That’s Iger. Aps are “takers” now.They already have our money, and if they sell a standard ticket they can sell the park twice.
Also, I find it hilarious that we finally have a fall with no MNSSHP and they're still closing MK at 6
One thing I can say about Eisner...he never thought that way.
The real interesting thing is they have near zero out of state travel/demand...so limiting the AP entries seems more “insidious” to me
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
And I’m sure the reason why they’re closing at 6 is the refunded Halloween tickets. Grumpy face all aroundThey already have our money, and if they sell a standard ticket they can sell the park twice.
Also, I find it hilarious that we finally have a fall with no MNSSHP and they're still closing MK at 6
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I am always amazed every day... that Disney thinks the answer to there problems is to just outright pretend that locals and AP pass-holders don't want to visit the park... and somehow tourists will magically keep the place a float while there is no one coming (and likely won't be for the next 8 months)
You'd think someone would get fired over that line of thinking.
You'd think someone would get fired over that line of thinking.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
I think we can all agree we want the pandemic to be over and things to get back to “normal”—whatever that looks like when this thing is over.
OTOH, when else are you going to have an opportunity to go to a park with 50% capacity , no FP+and the ability to go on almost every attraction with minimal wait times. With that kind of environment is it any wonder Disney is cutting back hours. Guests visits are wrapping up approx 1-2 hours prior to close because they are getting everything done they want to get in. Why keep the parks open, then? Of course, part also has to do with people not traveling so of course hours will be adjusted based on resort reservation numbers.
So, I’m going to take advantage of this rare time of low crowds while it’s available.
OTOH, when else are you going to have an opportunity to go to a park with 50% capacity , no FP+and the ability to go on almost every attraction with minimal wait times. With that kind of environment is it any wonder Disney is cutting back hours. Guests visits are wrapping up approx 1-2 hours prior to close because they are getting everything done they want to get in. Why keep the parks open, then? Of course, part also has to do with people not traveling so of course hours will be adjusted based on resort reservation numbers.
So, I’m going to take advantage of this rare time of low crowds while it’s available.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Tourists don’t “keep the place afloat”...they provide damn near all the rich, ripe profits to be had.
The approach to locals and APs so far is “intriguing”
Since reopening...my spidersense is tingling
...it’s either that...or I have gas?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The reduction of hours is straight to limit costs.
With far less people...they are moving way less Merch. They’re bleeding money. I don’t have to be the corporate accountant to guarantee that.
Tourists don’t “keep the place afloat”...they provide damn near all the rich, ripe profits to be had.
The approach to locals and APs so far is “intriguing”
Since reopening...my spidersense is tingling
...it’s either that...or I have gas?
Tingling, as if to say it's almost like they WANT the park to fail and close up..... ?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
My fears?
1. Yes...they want to be closed (I’m on record with that opinion and I know many hiding in the weeds have been tipped off to that)
2. They want to kill the passes...there has been off and on buzz around that for at least 5 years. Nothing mainstream though...hints and whispers
JohnD
Well-Known Member
I agree with that. If wait times are down and you get everything in 1-2 hours before close, WDW is bleeding money keeping the parks open. As the recent economic report showed, profits were down 85%. So if they’re going to reopen they need to manage expected income (guests’ spending) with costs (running WDW). So, I can’t blame them. For me, I’ll enjoy the parks while there are fewer guests.
Just remember, “normal” is high crowds almost every day and long standby lines which necessitates longer hours for guests to visit attractions.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I believe that report - laughably - was revenues were down 85% but profits were “up” a small percentage
...I’ve also been laughing for 4 days
Actually some of us like to dine in the park at dinner time rather than late lunch. At MK you'd need to eat around 5pm to make it back to your hotel on the transport.This is a smart move. Given the lack of crowds, there really is no reason for the parks to be open past 6 o'clock anyway. And no, there is no reason to reduce prices. I swear most of y'all are so cheap. By that logic, I should demand my local grocery store reduce prices since they're now open from 7 am-8 pm and not from 6 am-10 pm like they were before the pandemic. Get a grip
JohnD
Well-Known Member
I believe that report - laughably - was revenues were down 85% but profits were “up” a small percentage
...I’ve also been laughing for 4 days
True. Both mean income. Guess I should have used that word. Because if income is down 85% how is there a profit?
Probably because we DVC member still have to keep paying the same dues.
SoFloMagic
Well-Known Member
Um. You don't pay by the hour at the grocery store.By that logic, I should demand my local grocery store reduce prices since they're now open from 7 am-8 pm and not from 6 am-10 pm like they were before the pandemic. Get a grip
But if they started selling 6-packs of beer with only 5 bottles or pounds of beef with only 12 ounces I bet people would be upset.
This is a smart move. Given the lack of crowds, there really is no reason for the parks to be open past 6 o'clock anyway. And no, there is no reason to reduce prices. I swear most of y'all are so cheap. By that logic, I should demand my local grocery store reduce prices since they're now open from 7 am-8 pm and not from 6 am-10 pm like they were before the pandemic. Get a grip
My grocery store hasn’t stopped selling items though here’s a partial list of what Disney has stopped showing With no replacements:
-Festival of the Lion King
-Finding Nemo the Musical
-Rivers of Life
-Voyage of the Little Mermaid
-Frozen Sing a Long
-Fantasmic
-Star Wars Galactic Spectacular
-Epcot Forever
-Castle Show
-Festival of Fantasy Parade
-Happily Ever After
-Once Upon a Time
I’m also not required to make reservations to go to my grocery store and then only allowed to visit one department per day. This is a pathetic park experience and something I refuse to support.
However, I don’t feel I’ve been robbed of my AP value as I did enough trips prior to this that I feel I got my value out of everything but the waterparks (one visit to TL only)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They let the Figment in the upside down room translate the numbers for them.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
I'm reposting something I wrote on a different thread.
Below are some photo's from my son's trip July 19-23 (Sunday to Thursday).
Multiple headliner rides were walk-on. He experienced Flights of Passage 5 times (was even allowed to cut through the FP+ line at one point), Smuggler's Run 5 times, Test Track 3 times, Space Mountain 5 times, Rock n Roller Coaster 5 times, Expedition Everest 5 times. For most, it was a matter of his group simply getting bored with the attraction and deciding to move on.
Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Train was the longest line, followed by Slinky Dog Dash. (This last because it was down for most of the day.)
Crowds were light throughout the trip, with Disney Hollywood Studios feeling the most crowded, by far.
As his photos show, it was possible to encounter moments of modest crowds but also see the parks nearly empty, with many of his contrasting photos taken within an hour of each other.
These give you a sense of what it was like for my son during his weekday trip in mid-July. This is what Disney is dealing with at the moment. Just imagine what September is going to be like.
Epcot Sunday Evening:
Bridge Leaving Pandora Monday Morning:
Leaving Animal Kingdom Monday at 5:30 PM:
Magic Kingdom Tuesday Opening:
Walkway To Tomorrowland Tuesday Noon:
Waiting for Rise Of The Resistance Wednesday at 1 PM:
Galaxy's Edge 1 Hour Later:
Disney's Hollywood Studios Wednesday Afternoon:
One of the more crowded images of Disney's Hollywood Studios (according to my son):
Below are some photo's from my son's trip July 19-23 (Sunday to Thursday).
Multiple headliner rides were walk-on. He experienced Flights of Passage 5 times (was even allowed to cut through the FP+ line at one point), Smuggler's Run 5 times, Test Track 3 times, Space Mountain 5 times, Rock n Roller Coaster 5 times, Expedition Everest 5 times. For most, it was a matter of his group simply getting bored with the attraction and deciding to move on.
Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Train was the longest line, followed by Slinky Dog Dash. (This last because it was down for most of the day.)
Crowds were light throughout the trip, with Disney Hollywood Studios feeling the most crowded, by far.
As his photos show, it was possible to encounter moments of modest crowds but also see the parks nearly empty, with many of his contrasting photos taken within an hour of each other.
These give you a sense of what it was like for my son during his weekday trip in mid-July. This is what Disney is dealing with at the moment. Just imagine what September is going to be like.
Epcot Sunday Evening:
Bridge Leaving Pandora Monday Morning:
Leaving Animal Kingdom Monday at 5:30 PM:
Magic Kingdom Tuesday Opening:
Walkway To Tomorrowland Tuesday Noon:
Waiting for Rise Of The Resistance Wednesday at 1 PM:
Galaxy's Edge 1 Hour Later:
Disney's Hollywood Studios Wednesday Afternoon:
One of the more crowded images of Disney's Hollywood Studios (according to my son):
I think you are right on point here. Disney at the top expected people to be waiting in line to visit the parks. They admitted they were surprised at the low turnout. I think they will be surprised when demand does not return quickly. They may be surprised when the movies don't do as well when theaters reopen and how sports are not as popular as before. I am not sure the full impact of this virus has been realized and how it has changed people's thinking.
