Walt Disney World Marathon Weekend

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
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I knew I could count on you to bring it up for us. I am still hoping that @LAKid53 will join us since there is no Anaheim race earlier in September this year ;).

I'll add @Kitchen Kabaret a welcome to this forum as well and a caution that the weather during Marathon weekend is very unpredictable so come prepared. I flew over from Europe about 10 days or so before the race this year, expecting pleasant but not warm temperatures (for which I was grateful after having trained in freezing, rainy weather) but instead found weather was as cold as what I had been training in. Which would have been fine if only I had the warm clothes I had trained in :banghead:

SomehowI knew you'd mention my name. 😁
 

RunningKoen

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You hit the wall? No energy gels or beans to eat during the course?

I took some gels and bananas on course, but if I recall correctly, none of them were places within the first 12/13 miles, or I didnt take them. I burned for more than I refilled, so stil hit the wall.

It was kind of funny, having such cravings, noticing what it did with my body, how my body and mind reacted.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Could any of the more seasoned marathon runners amongst you indulge me on the matter of nutrition. I'm quite interested to know how you track what you are eating in the days leading up to the marathon in the parks in terms of ensuring you're getting sufficient (and quality) carbs...etc. If you're on property in the days before the event, how do you manage to stick to an effective meal plan? Do you pack foods that you're used to eating in training and ahead of non-Mouse related marathons before travelling to a resort (so you can ideally stick to what you know), do you raid every bakery on Disney property for pretzels and bagels :joyfull: , or do you have favourite meals on sale at the hotels/parks that you feel you can rely on?

Welcome.

To answer about the food, it's all of the above. I never really track my nutrition specifically for running, I just eat like I do all the time. For foods specific to your race, morning of, mid race, etc, then yes, I would usually suggest bringing it with you. You will be able to find basic equivalents on property, for instance all the food courts should offer "runners snack bags" with something like a bagel, banana, peanut butter, etc (never actually bought it so not 100% of what it contains) but it's pricey. And the expo has most of the big name brand gels/bars/etc for sale if you need. But in both cases it may not be identical (IE plain bagel vs onion and Choc Chip Clif bar vs Choc) which may or may not bother you. The night before, alot of restaurants will offer special "runners menus" (sensing a trend here?) which basically means they will offer a simple pasta dish at minimum. So I'll usually bring a sleeve of bagels for before the runs, but that's about it. I'm pretty used to supplementing with whatever freebies I pick up from Expos or on course at races, so I've never been bothered by what they have on course.
 

RunningKoen

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The one thing that works for any race: do not ever try new stuff.

If your body doesn't like it, it can be a hell. No one wants to run the race with stomach problems.
So if you never used gels/bars before, the night before your marathon isn't the best time to start with them (during the race, it can be no harm. It might be a problem for the day after the race, but then you'll be sore and your stomach is the least of your worries)

Running is fun, nonetheless.
 

Kitchen Kabaret

New Member
Welcome to the Forums! And congrats on running the London Marathon.

As far as nutrition goes, I'm a Disney Vacation Club (DVC) member, so I book a one bedroom villa that has a full kitchen for race weekends, so I can cook my own food. I live in Florida a 4 hours drive away. I pack a cooler with food for dinner my first night at WDW, some frozen items (soups, spaghetti sauce) and breakfast stuff - eggs, milk, oj, etc. I arrive the day before the Expo starts. After the Expo, I drive over to a nearby grocery store and shop for stuff for both lunches and dinners. Quality proteins like fish, chicken and lean meat. Vegetables, fruit, rice, bread, bagels are also on my list. I normally eat whole grain pasta and bread, but switch to the white stuff during race weekend as it's easier to digest. My dinners are what I ate as a kid growing up and still eat - a protein, starch (potatoes or rice), vegetable and salad. For races, though, I up the carb portion. I like to make a pasta that includes vegetables and chicken or fish. Lunches are usually a sandwich with meat and cheese and fruit or raw vegetables. And I eat yogurt every day. My pre-race meal is a toasted bagel spread with peanut butter and a cup of green tea (don't drink coffee). Filling, easy to digest and puts more glucose in my muscles. I'll bring a banana with me to eat while I'm waiting, as you'll have at least an hour's wait time before you start.

runDisney hands out a food box after the races, along with a banana. Frankly, what's in that box is mostly junk - cookies, pack of fruit bits, applesauce, tortilla chips and liquid cheese to dip them in. :hungover: I eat the applesauce and fruit bits, save the cookies for later and toss the rest of the box. When I get back to my room, I drink a big glass of chocolate milk, soak my feet for a bit, clean up and have a big breakfast with oatmeal and eggs to start that important recovery period. Once I've finished all my races, I then indulge in Disney food and adult beverages until I leave to drive home.

All of the on property hotels have what Disney calls quick service food courts where you can pick up pre-made items like sandwiches, salads and bakery items. Or you can order something. The Moderate and Deluxe resorts also have sit down, table service restaurants, in addition to the quick service spot. All rooms have a small under counter fridge in them that can store a limited amount of fresh food. All resorts, except for a few of the Value resorts, have coffee makers. All of the parks and Disney Springs have many options for food. I think it will be easy to eat on property and maintain a pre-race diet, just stay away from the stuff experts advise you not eat before a race - spicey foods, beans, anything than can give you tummy troubles.

As far as weather, temperatures for Marathon weekend are usually cool - 50s overnite and at start time. This year's race weather was unusual. Extremely cold in January for the Marathon, very warm - even hot - for the Princess Half in February and typical for the Star Wars Half in April. Lots of runners pack a cheap sweatshirt or hoodie to wear in order to stay warm while standing around in the corrals waiting to start. And then toss it along the side of the course once they've warmed up. runDisney then picks up the discarded clothing, cleans it and donates it to local charities. I remember reading after the conclusion of Marathon weekend that they were able to donate thousands of pounds of clothing to local charities. And there always the black plastic trash bag trick for staying warm.

I'm going to be participating in my first Marathon weekend next year, now that the Anaheim races are on hold. But just the 10K, as I've got all the Princess races the following month. I have no desire to run a full marathon, which my feet are very happy about.

Hopefully, we'll see you next January and at other runDisney events in the future. And you're not far from the Disneyland Paris Half.

Thanks for the reply and the welcome! That's a bounty of useful information. DVC! You lucky thing. :) I'm pleased that Disney pick up discarded clothing for charity as is common in a lot of race events now. That's great. Really it doesn't sound like one need approach a RunDisney event much differently than any other (i.e prepare yourself for all eventualities, then act accordingly on the day).

It won't be so soon as 2019 before I get back out there sadly. That's partly to do with monitoring everything new coming to the parks in the next couple of years, and since I haven't been to WDW since 1994 (when Kitchen Kabaret was still a thing! ... and Horizons... and World of Motion... and original Imagination *sigh*) I'm planning to save up to have an indulgent and lengthy stay when I do finally return as there is so much to see and do that didn't exist when I was last there. Crazy to think Animal Kingdom just had its 20th birthday and wasn't even built when I was last there. I surely underestimate just how much food choice and quality has changed there in the last 25yrs too, so it sounds like I'd be able to easily find what I like (sweet potato is perhaps my biggest go to race fuel, and regular baked potato serves me well too.... and many bagels).

I do think I will head over to Paris for the half before Florida, certainly (it will also lessen the wait taking in a bit of Disney closer to home before I get back to WDW). This year's London Marathon was my first 26.2, but I've run plenty of half marathons over the last seven years and it's a very comfortable distance for me now. It'd be lovely to get out to Anaheim again too and take part in a run there once they are doing them again (I was able to get out to Disneyland in 2000, 2001 and 2002).

Quick, @Swissmiss. A new person to lure to the Disneyland Paris Magic Run Weekend!

Welcome to this forum, Kitchen Kabaret. I ran my marathon badly prepared, without even a breakfast (just a bagel doesn't count), and ended up hitting the wall. I'm a bad advisor, for the matter of nutrition.

Oh no! Sorry to hear that. That plagued my mind last month for London. Even though I stuck to what I was eating during my four months of training, I still couldn't shake asking myself "have I eaten enough, have I eaten too much, have I eaten the right stuff"...etc. It turns out I had, as I finished with energy to spare (and I intermittent fast from time to time, so my body is also quite good at burning fat for energy on to of burning carbs as I often do 3-6 miles on an empty stomach in the morning), however I did slow my pace down significantly due to the heat. I also had tendinitis in my ankle that week, so my focus on the morning of the run was to finish happy rather than injured and in pain. It was those carb loading days leading up to the event that I think left me questioning myself the most as it wasn't something I was used to which is really what sparked my curiosity about how you all go about such things when at the Disney parks ahead of a run and you know what works for you back home.

My breakfast on the day of a run of any length is typically quite simple (a bagel with some peanut butter and jam, a banana and a small glass of OJ. On marathon day that merely topped off the 48hrs of carb loading I had done in the days before, with lunch 24hrs before being my last big meal as I prefer to keep it light that night for dinner. For long runs over 15 miles I will pack gels, as I did on the day of the Marathon, and typically will set my Garmin watch to buzz every 4-5 miles to remind me to take one. I just keep them in a little running belt. Little jelly/gummy sweets are useful to have to hand too for an energy burst but not everyone can stomach those while running. I alternate my gels between those that have caffeine and those that don't as well.


I'll add @Kitchen Kabaret a welcome to this forum as well and a caution that the weather during Marathon weekend is very unpredictable so come prepared. I flew over from Europe about 10 days or so before the race this year, expecting pleasant but not warm temperatures (for which I was grateful after having trained in freezing, rainy weather) but instead found weather was as cold as what I had been training in. Which would have been fine if only I had the warm clothes I had trained in :banghead:

Thank you for the warm welcome. I do tend to underdress even when running in London winter weather, and we had a bitter and extended winter here this year (I was running in snow in late March and early April, then come Marathon Day on 22nd of April it was 24c/75f!). Maybe the UK's erratic weather conditions are something I take for granted here and may actually serve me quite well for Florida one day. It's 19c/66f in London today and a quick 4 mile run at lunchtime was exhausting in the heat, despite it being cooler than the day I ran the Marathon. Fascinating and maddening how these things can affect performance.

I may see if I can afford to make the trip out to Paris for the Half this year but it might be a little while before I know for sure (otherwise I will absolutely make a plan to attend in 2019). How long do you think bibs for the half will be available for before it sells out?


Welcome.

To answer about the food, it's all of the above. I never really track my nutrition specifically for running, I just eat like I do all the time. For foods specific to your race, morning of, mid race, etc, then yes, I would usually suggest bringing it with you. You will be able to find basic equivalents on property, for instance all the food courts should offer "runners snack bags" with something like a bagel, banana, peanut butter, etc (never actually bought it so not 100% of what it contains) but it's pricey. And the expo has most of the big name brand gels/bars/etc for sale if you need. But in both cases it may not be identical (IE plain bagel vs onion and Choc Chip Clif bar vs Choc) which may or may not bother you. The night before, alot of restaurants will offer special "runners menus" (sensing a trend here?) which basically means they will offer a simple pasta dish at minimum. So I'll usually bring a sleeve of bagels for before the runs, but that's about it. I'm pretty used to supplementing with whatever freebies I pick up from Expos or on course at races, so I've never been bothered by what they have on course.

That's great. I love that a lot of the food services will actually cater especially for runners. I'm very flexiable with food generally and have diverse palate but like most will tend to simplify as much as possible ahead of a major run event. I primarily tend to steer clear of spices and sauces in the days leading up to a long run just to be on the safe side (a regular tomato and basil sauce on pasta is fine though).

Another reason I will likely delay my run at WDW a few years is that I'd like to get a couple more marathons under my belt so, like you, I can just naturally develop a sense of what my body needs, how much...etc. This year I was trying to balance training with losing a little big of weight (which is somewhat difficult when training for 26.2 given the energy the body needs from consuming food) so I've probably got an over reliance on tracking my calories at the moment that I will eventually overcome and adapt to naturally without having to weight and scan things I'm eating.


Thank you all again for the welcome and replies!
 

Swissmiss

Premium Member
I may see if I can afford to make the trip out to Paris for the Half this year but it might be a little while before I know for sure (otherwise I will absolutely make a plan to attend in 2019). How long do you think bibs for the half will be available for before it sells out?

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I'm not a good person to ask about bibs selling out. @dreamfinder tracks this sort of thing and @RunningKoen uses platforms I don't (Facebook, Twitter) and he's really good at posting thing on the DLP Half thread so that I and others can stay aware. It seems to me that I had read that new bibs (which I assume are really unsold bibs from travel agents) will be put on sale mid August so even if the half sells out between now and then it could still be possible to get a bib.

And since your initial post was about food: you'll need to come more prepared in terms of food for a DLP race. While it was easy to find things at WDW to eat on race morning, I can't say the same at DLP.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
I'm not a good person to ask about bibs selling out. @dreamfinder tracks this sort of thing and @RunningKoen uses platforms I don't (Facebook, Twitter) and he's really good at posting thing on the DLP Half thread so that I and others can stay aware. It seems to me that I had read that new bibs (which I assume are really unsold bibs from travel agents) will be put on sale mid August so even if the half sells out between now and then it could still be possible to get a bib.

DLP is a bit of a wild card. They don't use the same registration methods that the other runDisney events do, so it's not as easy to follow. And even the other events have been jumping all over the place in terms of sell out time.
As a rule of thumb, if you think you might do an event, register. runDisney usually announces events far enough out so that people can plan.
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
Premium Member
Early registration dates for DVC/AP

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OG Runner

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I am a bit surprised. You would think that RunDisney would have this better organized
than this is, given they have been doing it for over 25 years. ( I did run the 25th anniversary race
in January, right?)
 

RunningKoen

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I am a bit surprised. You would think that RunDisney would have this better organized
than this is, given they have been doing it for over 25 years. ( I did run the 25th anniversary race
in January, right?)

They are changing the registration process to improve it (no external party involved), like runDisney Paris does.

How is this badly organized, except for the late timing?
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
Premium Member
They are changing the registration process to improve it (no external party involved), like runDisney Paris does.

How is this badly organized, except for the late timing?

They provided the update when they said they would, rather than keeping us on hold for months, like with the DLR races. To not have to be switched to a third party to register is an improvement Plus, being able to register everyone in your party at the same time - definitely a plus.
 

OG Runner

Well-Known Member
They are changing the registration process to improve it (no external party involved), like runDisney Paris does.

How is this badly organized, except for the late timing?

Where did I say they were badly organized? I said better organized. I have organized road races before and the more years you
do it, the better organized you become. I was just saying, after 25 years, (not even including the other races), they could be
better organized. Read and then write, not gloss, react and write.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
To not have to be switched to a third party to register is an improvement Plus, being able to register everyone in your party at the same time - definitely a plus.

I withhold judgement on this move. Disney IT has shown itself to be lackluster when it comes to large scale projects. While Active.com hasn't shown to be the best when it comes to handling high demand events, they seem to have been ok for runDisney. And a few years ago you were able to register everyone in your party at once, but I'm not sure if that was a runDisney or Active.com initiated change.

Where did I say they were badly organized? I said better organized. I have organized road races before and the more years you
do it, the better organized you become. I was just saying, after 25 years, (not even including the other races), they could be
better organized. Read and then write, not gloss, react and write.

In all honesty, I don't think it's that poorly organized. WDW has a good habit of changing things mid game, and alot of the issues are beyond runDisney. They have to deal with both the corporate side of Disney and the government side of Disney/RCID. They can't just spin up a website, they need to meet Disney IT corporate standards and use their services. They can't just grab a local graphic designer to create the shirts, they need to meet Disney character guidelines and I imagine get every single piece of merchandise signed off on by several parties. While each new year does build experience, the amount of corporate changes that Disney seems to undergo each year would greatly complicate and change things on a regular basis, negating alot of that experience.
 

OG Runner

Well-Known Member
I withhold judgement on this move. Disney IT has shown itself to be lackluster when it comes to large scale projects. While Active.com hasn't shown to be the best when it comes to handling high demand events, they seem to have been ok for runDisney. And a few years ago you were able to register everyone in your party at once, but I'm not sure if that was a runDisney or Active.com initiated change.



In all honesty, I don't think it's that poorly organized. WDW has a good habit of changing things mid game, and alot of the issues are beyond runDisney. They have to deal with both the corporate side of Disney and the government side of Disney/RCID. They can't just spin up a website, they need to meet Disney IT corporate standards and use their services. They can't just grab a local graphic designer to create the shirts, they need to meet Disney character guidelines and I imagine get every single piece of merchandise signed off on by several parties. While each new year does build experience, the amount of corporate changes that Disney seems to undergo each year would greatly complicate and change things on a regular basis, negating alot of that experience.


AGAIN, I did not say the event was poorly run. I have run 4 of the last 5 years. I said that it could be BETTER. Making changes to
the whole process should actually based on their experience in running the events and nothing you mentioned would negate
their experience. The may make it harder to implement some of the changes, but it would not negate their experience, which
after 25 years should be considerable.
 

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