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News Walt Disney World and other major Disney accounts stop posting on social media platform X
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Brian
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- Made electric cars cool
- Created a reusable space launch system and brought space travel back to the U.S. following the shuttle program
- Co-founded PayPal (a company I hate due to crappy customer service, but many like it and it was a trailblazer)
- Created the hyperloop
- Co-founded OpenAI
- Co-founded Neuralink
- Created Starlink
- Acquired one of the leading social media platforms
- Became the world's wealthiest person
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denyuntilcaught
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I don't see how any of these make him an authoritative voice on foreign policy, media politics, and public diplomacy.
I've done quite well for myself working in media. That doesn't mean I know how to build a car.
Stripes
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I think if Elon had simply let the comments fade from memory, advertisers would already be back on the platform. The world has collective amnesia. But he opened his mouth again and blew the chances of that ever happening.
Casper Gutman
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Correct, quite a bit of it is about what Elon has said and done.
Brian
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It doesn't. It's like when Taylor Swift, a very successful singer and songwriter, comments on politics. They're not authorities, they're merely influential people. The public would be wise to consider the source when listening to their commentary on areas outside of their expertise.
denyuntilcaught
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But yet to an extent, influence comes with responsibility. That's what the private sector is reacting to - Musk's responsibility for his influence.
Well, lack thereof.
Casper Gutman
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Let me tell you about this guy I think you’ll be really eager to defend. His name was Henry Ford, and he literally changed the entire world.
Brian
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Yep, he did. I'm not going to take his accomplishments away from him because he was antisemitic.
Mussolini was a sick and evil man, but that doesn't mean he didn't make the trains run on time.
Do you take Walt Disney's accomplishments away from him because he made off-color remarks about Jews and blacks?
Casper Gutman
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Supporting hateful people who hate groups you like because they also hate groups you hate and you’re betting they’ll act on the latter and not on the former has not been a historically winning strategy.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think politics also plays a big role, Twitter has always been a trainwreck, back when it leaned left the right hated it and the left ignored its problems, now that it leans right the left hate it and the right ignore its problems. Not much has really changed, just what biases the owner allows vs the biases the previous owner allowed.
With the exception of bioreconstruct I’ve never paid it any attention so personally I don’t care who owns it or what they allow, as far as I’m concerned it’s only value to the world is bioreconstruct.
Correct. For Example, much of the basis for Rocket and Atomic research and Development came from people who worked in Germany between 1933 and 1945 and who may have shared unpleasant and despicable positions on certain things.
lazyboy97o
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Again, you don’t “have to hand it to” horrible people.
LittleBuford
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This pixie duster will promptly abandon ship if anything like that happens.
Brian
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What if his first act as owner would be to save Country Bear Jamboree?
Brian
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That actually wasn't at all a point I was making.
DisneyCane
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One of the biggest issues I see with society today is that reactions to things people say is so over the top. People are very quick to castigate Elon as an anti-semitic bigot. I interpreted his controversial post as a "chickens came home to roost" type of opinion, not really "anti-semitic." Other people interpreted it differently so we'll just have to agree to disagree about that.
Regardless, I haven't seen anybody report examples of actions taken by Elon that show he acts in a bigoted manner. As somebody who was supposed to have been slandered or taken offense to the post that he agreed with, I personally don't. I just saw it as a comment essentially saying that the overwhelming majority of Jewish people support the political parties in the west which support the mass immigration of people who don't tend to tbe very fond of Jewish people so they should stop complaining that the anti-semitism coming from people who they, by extension, supported to come to their country (not just the US but Western Europe also).
Honestly, in my opinion, if anything the tweet/post/X/whatever was anti-Muslim immigrant, not anti-semitic.
Before I get too far into the weeds, my point was that in this instance and many others, there are far too extreme reactions to mere words. When I was growing up, I was always told that "sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never harm you." We need to stop having huge fights over something somebody said, especially when it isn't black and white (no pun intended) that the "offensive" comment shouldn't have been made.
I actually suspect that what is really behind Disney's pulling of advertising and the pause in posting is Elon's opinions about gender transition of minors and they used the anti-semitism angle as cover.
Regardless, I haven't seen anybody report examples of actions taken by Elon that show he acts in a bigoted manner. As somebody who was supposed to have been slandered or taken offense to the post that he agreed with, I personally don't. I just saw it as a comment essentially saying that the overwhelming majority of Jewish people support the political parties in the west which support the mass immigration of people who don't tend to tbe very fond of Jewish people so they should stop complaining that the anti-semitism coming from people who they, by extension, supported to come to their country (not just the US but Western Europe also).
Honestly, in my opinion, if anything the tweet/post/X/whatever was anti-Muslim immigrant, not anti-semitic.
Before I get too far into the weeds, my point was that in this instance and many others, there are far too extreme reactions to mere words. When I was growing up, I was always told that "sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never harm you." We need to stop having huge fights over something somebody said, especially when it isn't black and white (no pun intended) that the "offensive" comment shouldn't have been made.
I actually suspect that what is really behind Disney's pulling of advertising and the pause in posting is Elon's opinions about gender transition of minors and they used the anti-semitism angle as cover.
Stripes
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I wish he didn’t get his britches in a knot over what people thought about him, but his irrational tirades clearly suggest otherwise.
It’s evident that Iger is living rent free in Musk’s head. What a poor guy.
Willmark
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Twitter is a battleground, simply put for a while and perhaps even now it is the de facto "town square" of the internet and all that entails.
IMO the bigger issue is the alphabet agencies of ours and those around the world creeping around on it. None of them have good intentions. I leave it at that because even linking to that would likely ignite a fire storm.
I will say that Disney (nor any company or any of the multitude of agencies) active there have your best interest at heart. I should think everyone can agree on that, but likely not.
IMO the bigger issue is the alphabet agencies of ours and those around the world creeping around on it. None of them have good intentions. I leave it at that because even linking to that would likely ignite a fire storm.
I will say that Disney (nor any company or any of the multitude of agencies) active there have your best interest at heart. I should think everyone can agree on that, but likely not.
You’ve clearly never seen how Elon works. It’s more likely that two shower a day Bob with his fragile ego is livid that he’s getting this much negative attention.
Who’s in the stronger position? Elon with billions of dollars, many successful companies, millions of fans and one of the biggest microphones in the world, or Bob with a company on fire and in complete disarray ?
Elon is making an example out of Bob.