MK Walt Disney to Appear in Carousel of Progress with New Audio-Animatronic at Magic Kingdom

[HMF]

but my understanding he's had no involvement in the writing in a long time.

That's what the manatees are for.

 

[Brer Panther]

Why should he have a problem with them, though? They're jokes, and it's not like Walt Disney is the only person they've joked about (far from it). I haven't watched Family Guy in a very long time but they're kind of in the same boat as South Park in that they skewer everything.

"It's just a joke" is not an excuse for being mean. It wasn't funny when they mocked John Goodman multiple times either.

 

[HMF]

"It's just a joke" is not an excuse for being mean. It wasn't funny when they mocked John Goodman multiple times either.

It's just a joke doesn't really work when the person isn't here to defend themselves. Never mind the fact that the joke can be disproven within 5 seconds if you actually bother to do research on Walt.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It's just a joke doesn't really work when the person isn't here to defend themselves.

Ah good. Then we all agree no more joking or being mean to Disney execs!!

 

[HMF]

Ah good. Then we all agree no more joking or being mean to Disney execs!!

No, Because they are living people in a position of power and are actively making poor decisions and thus fair game. Also the stuff that they are being trashed for is stuff they actually do that isn't demonstrably false. For example, if someone were to say Josh D'Amaro was in a hate group or something I would condemn it since there is no evidence supporting that.

 

[Disstevefan1]

"It's just a joke" is not an excuse for being mean. It wasn't funny when they mocked John Goodman multiple times either.

Poor multi millionaire Iger who has enough money for multiple lifetimes like a vampire who has spent the company's money like monopoly money buying then destroying IPs with poor decisions.

You are right, we shouldn't be mean to poor, defenseless Iger.

 

[UNCgolf]

"It's just a joke" is not an excuse for being mean. It wasn't funny when they mocked John Goodman multiple times either.

I didn't say I thought they were funny -- but it's just the nature of the show (and of South Park as well). There's nothing inherently different/special about Walt Disney that means he should be exempt from it.

It's just a joke doesn't really work when the person isn't here to defend themselves. Never mind the fact that the joke can be disproven within 5 seconds if you actually bother to do research on Walt.

So no one should ever make jokes about any historical figure ever? This is a silly take.

Walt Disney wasn't a perfect saint. And you can't "disprove" a joke; it's a joke. It doesn't have to be accurate.

To be clear, I'm not defending them as good jokes. But that's not really the point.

 

[Brer Panther]

Poor multi millionaire Iger who has enough money for multiple lifetimes like a vampire who has spent the company's money like monopoly money buying then destroying IPs with poor decisions.

You are right, we shouldn't be mean to poor, defenseless Iger.

I'm not defending Iger, I'm defending Walt.

Walt Disney wasn't a perfect saint.

Maybe he wasn't, but A) I'm sure Seth MacFarlane isn't either and B) the "anti-semitic" claims have been disproven.

I didn't say I thought they were funny -- but it's just the nature of the show (and of South Park as well).

"It's the nature of the show" doesn't mean we have to like it. You shouldn't make a show solely so you can take mean-spirited potshots at people.

And considering how many times they made these anti-Walt jokes, I think it's pretty clear that they've got an axe to grind.

 

[Raineman]

They undo the castle's 'Disney Store princess aisle pink' , add Walt to a preshow (admittedly both great news), but rip out the heart of the MK with the lake district.

Two steps forward, and one huge step back. Part of me wonders if the return to the OG castle and the COP Walt preshow is partially an olive branch to those of us who have been decrying the ROA/TSI mistake, the Splash debacle, and other recent decisions-they don't want to lose our business and the accompanying $$, right?

 

[WondersOfLife]

I didn't realize it got a recent system overhaul...great news!...but apparently the LB track was just replaced in 2020 and we saw how long that lasted. I guess I was in the, "what are they going to ax next!?" ultra-cynical mode since last August (I had other solid reasons for my cynicism). But I only ever saw Peoplemover ever shutting down if one of the buildings it went through was going away (and before yesterday's very-happy news, I feared the CoP building was the prime candidate for possible demo. What I was implying is that the recent news indicates a complete MK Tomorrowland revamp is not necessary (it may still happen for DL's though). I curious what they have planned for the grossly-underutilized Monsters and Stich spaces, I'm cautiously-optimistic about them re-starting the Space Mountain re-track they originally planned back in 2009, and hoping they announce exciting plans for the Speedway site after "Frontireland" opens. All of this "wish list" could result in a quite-nice Tomorrowland!

Another thing worth noting is tta has had consistently long waits (for the attraction that it is) for the past decade now. What was once a walk-on any day of the year when i was a kid, is now a must do for many people.

Its crazy how things change over time.

 

[Raineman]

Another thing worth nothing is tta has had consistently long waits (for the attraction that it is) for the past decade now. What was once a walk-on any day of the year when i was a kid, is now a must do for many people.

Its crazy how things change over time.

I haven't been to WDW in 6 years-it is consistently busy now? The last couple of times I visited, it was a crapshoot-sometimes there was a small line at the top of the escalator, sometimes there was a line that wrapped all around the switchbacks under the platform.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Two steps forward, and one huge step back. Part of me wonders if the return to the OG castle and the COP Walt preshow is partially an olive branch to those of us who have been decrying the ROA/TSI mistake, the Splash debacle, and other recent decisions-they don't want to lose our business and the accompanying $$, right?

There ain't a shortage of people going to WDW. And its quarterly profits keep rising. All while doing the things you think are driving people away. Disney doesn't chase down people after an "outcry."

What matters are not the cries from fan sites, but the GSATs of guests that attend. (And their money.)

Disney does react when GSATs are down (or spending is less). That's what led to Harmonious and Enchantment being replaced, or SGE being shut down.

GSATs for the new flume are good. It still gets long queues. The social media outcry is meaningless in the face of satisfied paying customers. Those who stop going to Disney parks over it and other issues are whistfully waved good-bye as a torrent of other guests keep arriving.

So, Disney does listen... but is clearly not binding themselves to respond to all voices.

Especially voices that argue amongst themselves about what should be done.

 

[jah4955]

Another thing worth nothing is tta has had consistently long waits (for the attraction that it is) for the past decade now. What was once a walk-on any day of the year when i was a kid, is now a must do for many people.

Its crazy how things change over time.

I think this is great news...the greater the turnout the greater the chances for survival

 

[FettFan]

They could just take the final scene back to the way it was when it reflected late 80's/early 90's fashion, as all those are back in style now. Slouchy socks for the win!

Also that 1980s Contemporary architecture with the random vertical beams and slanted skylight windows in the kitchen.

 

[FettFan]

I think this is great news...the greater the turnout the greater the chances for survival

If only they'd uncover and reopen the old windows with the Buzz refurb...

From my understanding, the hair salon scene was once just another window looking down into IYHW/Delta Dreamflight before the 1994 Tomorrowland reimagining. And on the left hand side, there was a window that looked down to the speed tunnel; that one has just been covered.

 

[HMF]

Two steps forward, and one huge step back. Part of me wonders if the return to the OG castle and the COP Walt preshow is partially an olive branch to those of us who have been decrying the ROA/TSI mistake, the Splash debacle, and other recent decisions-they don't want to lose our business and the accompanying $$, right?

That is pretty much exactly what it is.

 

[castlecake2.0]

If only they'd uncover and reopen the old windows with the Buzz refurb...

From my understanding, the hair salon scene was once just another window looking down into IYHW/Delta Dreamflight before the 1994 Tomorrowland reimagining. And on the left hand side, there was a window that looked down to the speed tunnel; that one has just been covered.

I’m hoping they throw some money at the peoplemover to clean up some of those scenes as part of the COP refresh.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I haven't been to WDW in 6 years-it is consistently busy now? The last couple of times I visited, it was a crapshoot-sometimes there was a small line at the top of the escalator, sometimes there was a line that wrapped all around the switchbacks under the platform.

Consistently busy on the times I have been there. I mean, its no rope drop attraction. But definitely around noon to 7 pm ish consistently yea.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I think this is great news...the greater the turnout the greater the chances for survival

Correct.

--Also a reason why I am happy they adjusted Country Bears. Its popularity has boosted up and ratings from review forms are at an all time high for that show now.

Perhaps Disney learned a thing or two about plussing and maintaining their classics recently via guest ratings... Meaning it is finally "worth" investing in their historical attractions making them "like-new" again to restore their popularity...

...Test Track going old school epcot is sort of another example of this.

...Hopefully they will execute tiki room better than their last attempt when the time comes.

 

[HMF]

..Hopefully they will execute tiki room better than their last attempt when the time comes.

I would just leave it alone. Maybe bring back the fountain. BTW, I have updated my article on the history of Tomorrowland at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom with the new info about the upcoming refurbishment to COP.

The Tomorrowland Problem: Part 2

The Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World

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