Walking walls

Chip Chipperson

Well-Known Member
It really depends on where you're walking. Some areas have nice wide walkways and others are more narrow. Parents with kids obviously need to be walking alongside them, so they're going to need to have a wider group than a group of adult friends who don't have to worry about someone getting separated and lost. So 2 parents with 3 small kids who are too big for strollers but too small to not be alongside a parent will need a 5-person width. 5 adults can split into 2 rows of 2-3 people. I think group speed is more important than group width. 2 people who are doing the old "walk 5 steps then stop for 5 seconds to look at something, then walk again when someone tries to get around them, rinse and repeat over and over" is much more inconsiderate and annoying than a group of 5 walking at a consistent and reasonable speed and knows where they're going.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
This is what a wall is....
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What you said is totally true. What this thread is talking about is the idea that a family should not commit the massive crime of talking to each other and being a family together because someone wants to get someplace 40 seconds quicker. There are three options, go around them at the first open time, politely ask if you can get through if going around isn't possible (something that I find hard to believe) or have a little patience and realise that they didn't go to a theme park to just walk around and before long will either head for an attraction or find some other place they want to go that you are not going to at all.
In a high school, being 40seconds late to class is considered VERY late. Three times late= disciplinary action. A teacher being 40 seconds late is even worse, because the teacher is responsible for anything that happens.

In WDW, children can run a long way from a parent/grandparent in 40 seconds.

Further...

The walls tend to extend across the whole path. They only move right just enough to allow for oncoming traffic, as soon as oncoming traffic passes, they spread right back out again across the entire width of pathway.

The second option doesn't tend to work in WDW either. The walking walls are usually engaged in nonstop conversation, and WDW is loud. That's part of why they form a wall - so they can hear each other.

Many tend to be in their own bubble, I suspect most don't realize they are blocking the pathway, so they don't welcome anyone telling them they are a blockade.

They also not only walk slowly, but also often stop especially at intersections while they discuss which way they want to go. How long is anybody's guess.

We do well to try to be kind and patient with each other. WDW is crowded, and people come from everywhere. Some folks know how to navigate crowds, and others are not used to crowds.

I think that includes making allowances for people that are both slower than us and those that need to go a little faster. There are a number of very valid reasons why someone might need to walk slowly or to pass.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
That's only true if the highway is uncrowded. If the highway is super crowded, nobody will be driving even at the speed limit, let alone above it. If the highway is moderately crowded, such that the passing lane needs to be used as a travel lane, but not so crowded that the whole flow slows below the posted limit, it's perfectly acceptable to drive 73 in a 65 in the left lane.
You wouldn't say that if you lived where I do. People drive 75-80 in a 55 even when it's crowded.
 

Chip Chipperson

Well-Known Member
I was told that "adult with two children" is too wide.

Everyone needs to turn sideways and shuffle their way around the parks. It's the only sensible solution. The hard part will be getting everyone to agree which direction is the proper way to face. I say everyone faces the outside of the walking path so people going in opposite directions have their backs to each other. That way we don't have to see each other's faces or smell anyone's bad breath. I will die on this hill.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
That's your problem, not the wall's. As long as the wall is moving consistently at a normal speed with the flow of traffic in the appropriate direction, then it can be as big as it needs to be. Someone trying to "pass" because they're walking at a faster pass than the normal flow of traffic is the one breaking the social norm, not the wall.

So as long as you all are dragging like you're star struck, it's ok?

Have you never noticed taller people have a different gait than shorter people? Is it now 'their problem' that they are tall?

Being obvlious to those around you is the one breaking the social norm. If you are a rolling roadblock just so you all can walk hand-in-hand in a crowded space.. then no, you are the problem. Not the people forced to be all bottled up by your whatever whim.

Add this to people who just stop for their group at the top of a staircase or just stop their group right in the middle of the walkway. Move to the side!
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
So the answer to my question about what is the socially acceptable general width(wall length), the way I see it, is 5 feet max……. that’s likely 2 people walking side by side.

This presumes normal traffic which is already fairly crowded. And if this were early 2000’s then normal traffic patterns/congestion might be 6 feet max……just my take.

Two or three... anyone doing more for any significant amount of time is a detriment to those around them in a crowded space.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Let's talk about who yields..

If I am walking along the right edge of the path and you are coming at me on a collision course... it's your job to move to your right. Not expect me to somehow get off the path, stop for you, or whatever.

I watched children this past week (age 13 or so) literally almost knock a lady walking with a cane over because she was walking with the wall on the right, and the kids insisted on trying to pass her on HER right.. which is the wall she was counting on to remain steady. Literally cut through where she was leaning on the railing.

People are oblivious to other's needs...
 

Br0ckford

Premium Member
Out of the way grandma
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MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
I was told that "adult with two children" is too wide.
I am inclined to say a reasonable accommodation is allowable for any parent with small children.
Small children don't tend to take up much space.

When this thread mentioned walking wall...I tend to picture the many times I have seen an all-adults group spread across 75-90% of the total width of the pathway, in a tight area.

Especially when they are coming at me and make no effort to split up or yield.

Even still, I don't think most are intentionally trying to be rude, they just aren't thinking.

It is partly the nature of WDW. We are herded all day. WDW is sensory overload, and people tend to zone out when they get overloaded.

On the other hand, the more people make an effort to be courteous, the more we create norms at WDW and elsewhere.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
So as long as you all are dragging like you're star struck, it's ok?
As a matter of fact, it is! You're in a theme park for heavens sake, not the hallway of an emergency room and a code blue was just announced. The almost insane idea that people on vacation need to fall down and play dead because you want to get to the Haunted Mansion before everyone else is nothing more then self centered, childish behavior. I've been there many times and I cannot think of one single time that getting past some group that is enjoying WDW or possibly even their first trip and are trying to figure out where they are and how to get there wasn't a simple alteration of direction and going around. Where is it written that you guys own the sidewalks and therefore should be allowed instant access just because want it. This thread is just another example of just how far civilization is fallen backwards into a narcissistic primordial ooze.

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CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
So as long as you all are dragging like you're star struck, it's ok?

Have you never noticed taller people have a different gait than shorter people? Is it now 'their problem' that they are tall?
We're not talking about a person with a long gait. We're talking about a coked up Disney Adult flying around the parks solo. They can chill out, they don't need to slice through every crowded.

Being obvlious to those around you is the one breaking the social norm. If you are a rolling roadblock just so you all can walk hand-in-hand in a crowded space.. then no, you are the problem. Not the people forced to be all bottled up by your whatever whim.

Add this to people who just stop for their group at the top of a staircase or just stop their group right in the middle of the walkway. Move to the side!
I literally didn't say any of that. By all means, pass people who are walking slowly. But running around people who are walking normally, no matter how big the group, makes the runner the jerk.
 

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