Walking walls

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
Honestly, at Disney, if you're (general you ;) ) a walking wall and you're coming towards me, you're moving around me, 'cause I am not moving to accomodate you. I walk through groups who are 4-6 people across multiple times a day at the parks.
different and more dangerous on a bicycle, for the rider and the people walking (and more coming from them behind since they are oblivious), of course this is totally off course the topic ;)
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I walk just a bit faster than most so passing can be more effort to get around the moving wall party.
That's your problem, not the wall's. As long as the wall is moving consistently at a normal speed with the flow of traffic in the appropriate direction, then it can be as big as it needs to be. Someone trying to "pass" because they're walking at a faster pass than the normal flow of traffic is the one breaking the social norm, not the wall.

This! When my mom and I (who uses a scooter) encounter a large wall of more than 2-3 across, no way does she try to move. She's more likely to take someone out walking next to her by swerving to avoid the oncoming wall, so she just goes through. I used to yell, "excuse us" but not anymore. I ended up with a hoarse voice from all the yelling, so I just let her "part the seas".🙄
Disney should require a governor installed on scooters to prevent this type of thing. Yeah, if the group is just standing still in the middle of the path, fine, go around (or through) them. But too often the scooters are ripped all the way up to "rabbit" speed, and a scooter that's set to go faster than any person should reasonably be expected to walk is not acceptable.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
In the spirit of overthinking things.

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MickeyLuv'r

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Someone trying to "pass" because they're walking at a faster pass than the normal flow of traffic is the one breaking the social norm, not the wall.
Hard disagree on that point.

It is a bit like highway traffic is supposed to run. One should ALWAYS walk on the far right side of the path so other people can reasonably pass, especially if one is walking slowly.

With today's WDW, time = $. The person behind you might have been delayed (no fault of theirs, like stuck on a ride/monorail that stopped, etc) and now has to get to a specific location by a set time, or lose a good deal of money. That group of 4 might be headed to an ILL that cost $123 ($29+tax).

To answer OP's question, generally no more than 2 people across; though a solo parent with small children would be an understandable exception to the general rule.
 
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CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
It is a bit like highway traffic is supposed to run. One should ALWAYS walk on the far right side of the path so other people can reasonably pass, especially if one is walking slowly.
That's only true if the highway is uncrowded. If the highway is super crowded, nobody will be driving even at the speed limit, let alone above it. If the highway is moderately crowded, such that the passing lane needs to be used as a travel lane, but not so crowded that the whole flow slows below the posted limit, it's perfectly acceptable to drive 73 in a 65 in the left lane.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
That's only true if the highway is uncrowded. If the highway is super crowded, nobody will be driving even at the speed limit, let alone above it. If the highway is moderately crowded, such that the passing lane needs to be used as a travel lane, but not so crowded that the whole flow slows below the posted limit, it's perfectly acceptable to drive 73 in a 65 in the left lane.
1. I am of the general opinion that American highways would be FAR less congested if people followed the passing lane rule. Sadly, they don't. For that matter, busy staircases/escalators would also be less congested if people followed this very simple rule.

2. Choose your speed and stick to it. It befuddles me the drivers who are happily going along at whatever speed they chose, say 60mph. Nobody is in front of them, but for some odd reason, when another driver tries to pass, they suddenly feel a need to speed up to 80mph.



If all else fails, see George Carlin's take on traffic. He used colorful language I can't write here.

Alas though, we should not highjack the thread to discuss highway traffic, so I will simply say the above also applies to WDW's walking pathways. It befuddles me, how many people seem to be offended by the idea of being passed.
 

NelleBelle

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Disney should require a governor installed on scooters to prevent this type of thing. Yeah, if the group is just standing still in the middle of the path, fine, go around (or through) them. But too often the scooters are ripped all the way up to "rabbit" speed, and a scooter that's set to go faster than any person should reasonably be expected to walk is not acceptable.
Agree with the need for having ”governors” on ecv/scooters. In our case, she keeps hers turned down so that she keeps ”walking”-pace with us. We generally walk next to her unless we are in a huge crowd. I don’t think I’ve ever been so frustrated as I was when we were in line for th ferry and people ignored her and cut in front of her, constantly separating us. That was one of the reasons I told my DH I would never again stay offsite again as getting to the TTc at the end of a MK day was too horrible. My 2 teens said they wouldn’t go back to MK that trip because of it.
 

TalkToEthan

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
So the answer to my question about what is the socially acceptable general width(wall length), the way I see it, is 5 feet max……. that’s likely 2 people walking side by side.

This presumes normal traffic which is already fairly crowded. And if this were early 2000’s then normal traffic patterns/congestion might be 6 feet max……just my take.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Yes, walking around a standing still blockade is easier than having a moving wall abruptly halt because you are seeing it in advance and can maneuver around. Those sudden stops happen without notice and you are caught off guard.
Especially on Main Street where you also have to deal with the groups getting their pictures taken by Disney AND the groups too cheap to pay, so they just stop along side and pose at the same time. That plus trying to navigate over the ever expanding gaps along the train tracks… try crossing those the wrong way with a stroller or ECV…
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
1. I am of the general opinion that American highways would be FAR less congested if people followed the passing lane rule. Sadly, they don't. For that matter, busy staircases/escalators would also be less congested if people followed this very simple rule.

2. Choose your speed and stick to it. It befuddles me the drivers who are happily going along at whatever speed they chose, say 60mph. Nobody is in front of them, but for some odd reason, when another driver tries to pass, they suddenly feel a need to speed up to 80mph.



If all else fails, see George Carlin's take on traffic. He used colorful language I can't write here.

Alas though, we should not highjack the thread to discuss highway traffic, so I will simply say the above also applies to WDW's walking pathways. It befuddles me, how many people seem to be offended by the idea of being passed.
In NJ, they’re known as left lane d**ks…passing lane doing 55 in a 65 limit.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
So the answer to my question about what is the socially acceptable general width(wall length), the way I see it, is 5 feet max……. that’s likely 2 people walking side by side.
It doesn't work for odd numbered parties. Two parents with three kids walking 2-2-1 means one of the kids is my themselves.
 

NelleBelle

Well-Known Member
I think my bigger irritation, and Main Street is probably the exception, are when people walk on the ”wrong“ side of the traffic flow, as mentioned previously. It’s somewhat harder to do this on Main Street with all the shops on both sides, and it makes walking down those sidewalks very difficult and almost impossible at certain times of the day. We tend to always look in the shops on the right as we enter and those on the left as we leave for our mid-day break out of habit. And we try to never get caught in the final shopping rush after fireworks!😱
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
That's your problem, not the wall's. As long as the wall is moving consistently at a normal speed with the flow of traffic in the appropriate direction, then it can be as big as it needs to be. Someone trying to "pass" because they're walking at a faster pass than the normal flow of traffic is the one breaking the social norm, not the wall.
This is what a wall is....
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What you said is totally true. What this thread is talking about is the idea that a family should not commit the massive crime of talking to each other and being a family together because someone wants to get someplace 40 seconds quicker. There are three options, go around them at the first open time, politely ask if you can get through if going around isn't possible (something that I find hard to believe) or have a little patience and realise that they didn't go to a theme park to just walk around and before long will either head for an attraction or find some other place they want to go that you are not going to at all.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Given the width of walkways and the amount of foot traffic going in multiple directions we see in the parks as a rule of thumb what is the max number of people socially allowed to walk side-by-side creating a walking wall?

Perhaps a better way to ask is what is the max length in feet socially allowed?
Almost every culture and society on the globe can be at the parks at any given time.
Each one of them has a different view to your question.

I think the answer would be no number.
 

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