News Wakanda joins Coco, Zootopia, and Encanto on Disney Parks' future blue sky expansion list, reveals Josh D'Amaro

[Bocabear]

An India Pavilion would be exotic and beautiful...though no ready-made IP...but definitely not another European country...
New Zealand, Australia, Iceland, Brazil, UAE... there are plenty of options...if they want to continue to expand the park as it was supposed to have been....

 

[Incomudro]

Disney's not touching another European country.

 

[Bocabear]

It is a shame they didn't get Spain in there before they decided to not do any more European countries...
not only could it have been the most beautiful pavilion there, the food would have been an amazing addition....

 

[LittleBuford]

It is a shame they didn't get Spain in there before they decided to not do any more European countries...
not only could it have been the most beautiful pavilion there, the food would have been an amazing addition....

I know you've tended to associate Morocco with countries much further east, but its architecture is very close to that of medieval Spain, with which it had much stronger geographical and cultural ties.

 

[Rhinocerous]

Personal opinion: doing an "Odyssey" ride - like just follow Homer's story scene by scene - with a quality Sherman Brothers-esque song and heavy on AAs would be a massive win for Epcot. Something similar in scope to the Sindbad ride from Tokyo.

There’s already a ride featuring Homer’s story in Universal.

 

[doctornick]

There’s already a ride featuring Homer’s story in Universal.

There is? Where?

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

There is? Where?

Springfield

 

[Jrb1979]

After today's announcement of not ramping up investments til the latter stages of the 10 years you might as well forget about any of these blue sky ideas.

 

[MisterPenguin]

After today's announcement of not ramping up investments til the latter stages of the 10 years you might as well forget about any of these blue sky ideas.

I don't think anyone watching TWDC close enough would have thought the 60B was going to be spent sooner than later.

Disney has to buy out Hulu, and get streaming profitable by the end of Fiscal 2024. They weren't going to spend $10B on parks in 2024.

 

[Bocabear]

and that 60B was worldwide parks...so... the thought that it would mostly be coming to Florida is probably wrong too... Shanghai, Paris, and Hong Kong were all under-built and need things too...especially Shanghai.
and that would be 10 theme parks all in line for the investment....(excluding Tokyo)

 

[MisterPenguin]

and that 60B was worldwide parks...so... the thought that it would mostly be coming to Florida is probably wrong too... Shanghai, Paris, and Hong Kong were all under-built and need things too...especially Shanghai.

Indeed it is.

$60B in ten years is $6B per year.

In the quarterly call, they said that's what they'll be spending next year. So...

 

[cjkeating]

Indeed it is.

$60B in ten years is $6B per year.

In the quarterly call, they said that's what they'll be spending next year. So...

Next year is an exceptionally cruise ship heavy year with Treasure, Adventure and Triton 3 all requiring money.

 

[Marionnette]

Next year is an exceptionally cruise ship heavy year with Treasure, Adventure and Triton 3 all requiring money.

Not to mention that the Magic and Wonder are both old ladies in cruise ship terms. They will probably be retired at some point on the next 10 years and replacements will need to be built.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Greece would be an easy option, especially given a built in IP to showcase with Hercules. Biggest issue would be complaints of "yet another European country" instead of South American, Sub-saharan Africa, South Asia, etc.

Personal opinion: doing an "Odyssey" ride - like just follow Homer's story scene by scene - with a quality Sherman Brothers-esque song and heavy on AAs would be a massive win for Epcot. Something similar in scope to the Sindbad ride from Tokyo.

Were it so easy...

 

[HauntedPirate]

Not to mention that the Magic and Wonder are both old ladies in cruise ship terms. They will probably be retired at some point on the next 10 years and replacements will need to be built.

I have zero faith that if those ships are retired, they will be replaced with anything but more Wish-designed ships. Meaning, many will just not sail on them because they don't like the design of the Wish. Unless they get back to what made the Dream and the Fantasy so popular, I won't sail on another Disney cruise ship built after the Fantasy (and will likely be moving my cruise dollars to other cruise lines anyway).

 

[doctornick]

I have zero faith that if those ships are retired, they will be replaced with anything but more Wish-designed ships. Meaning, many will just not sail on them because they don't like the design of the Wish. Unless they get back to what made the Dream and the Fantasy so popular, I won't sail on another Disney cruise ship built after the Fantasy (and will likely be moving my cruise dollars to other cruise lines anyway).

Can I ask exactly what you don't like about the Wish style ships and why you prefer the earlier ones?

(not arguing, I'm just curious about the differences that go into your preference)

 

[HauntedPirate]

Can I ask exactly what you don't like about the Wish style ships and why you prefer the earlier ones?

(not arguing, I'm just curious about the differences that go into your preference)

The list starts here:

Disney Wish

Judging by the reviews I’ve seen this seems fair. I’m curious if they’ll make design changes to the 2 other ships being constructed or just stick with the current plans. Outside of the overall theme, which will depart from the princess theme, probably similar to the adjustments/differences...

forums.wdwmagic.com

Tack on no concurrent walking/running track, shopping space that is too heavily weighted towards upscale shopping, and the Star Wars cupboard was a massive disappointment.

 

[DCBaker]

From an article at Entertainment Weekly with Josh D'Amaro.

"After first teasing a potential Indiana Jones-themed replacement for the Disney World park's beloved Dinosaur ride, in an exclusive interview with EW at a press preview for Hong Kong Disneyland's new World of Frozen-themed land, Disney Experiences Chairman Josh D'Amaro doubles down on the Harrison Ford-starring blockbuster series as prime material for the wildlife park's next expansion.

"I think I actually played some music, didn't I?" D'Amaro teases, referencing his Destination D23 presentation in September, which saw him reveal concept artwork showing off an Indiana Jones-inspired temple in place of the existing Dinosaur thrill ride while composer John Williams' Indiana Jones score played overhead.

D'Amaro stresses that, while not a final piece of concept art, the image — which showed the aging Dinoland U.S.A. section of the park re-themed to tropical American locales with Encanto and Coco attractions — highlights "where our heads are" as his team continues "dreaming" plans for Animal Kingdom's next big move.

"We've got so many stories to tell, we have so many things we want to make even better in the theme parks. My plan is to continue to share that with the guests. I know people are like, 'My gosh, I can't believe he's saying this. Is he serious, is he not?' The answer is, we are absolutely serious," he says, also pointing to the company's recent announcement that it would spend $60 billion on improving global properties over the next 10 years. "We know what this business is capable of, we know what our fans expect of us, and we're going all in. You're going to see more and more of that. As we make our way through some of these ideas, some of them will become real, and we'll say that's specifically what we're going to do, but I want our guests to be on the journey with us."

Following D'Amaro's D23 presentation, many Disney parks fans questioned how Indiana Jones might fit in within Animal Kingdom, a park founded on principles of wildlife conservation. D'Amaro, who previously served as Animal Kingdom's vice president, notes that, while he's not ready to go "deep into" specifics just yet, he's optimistic about how that potential move might be received.

"Animal Kingdom is about exploration and adventure," he says. "I was fortunate enough to have run that theme park, so I know how special it is, and I think there are a lot of stories that we can stay true to Animal Kingdom and express new properties in there, and that's what you see us starting to do.""

Full article below.

Disney parks boss addresses potential 'Indiana Jones' ride at Animal Kingdom

Disney parks boss addresses potential 'Indiana Jones' replacement for Dinosaur ride at Animal Kingdom and other big moves: 'We know what our fans expect of us and we're going all in.'

ew.com

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

From an article at Entertainment Weekly with Josh D'Amaro.

"After first teasing a potential Indiana Jones-themed replacement for the Disney World park's beloved Dinosaur ride, in an exclusive interview with EW at a press preview for Hong Kong Disneyland's new World of Frozen-themed land, Disney Experiences Chairman Josh D'Amaro doubles down on the Harrison Ford-starring blockbuster series as prime material for the wildlife park's next expansion.

"I think I actually played some music, didn't I?" D'Amaro teases, referencing his Destination D23 presentation in September, which saw him reveal concept artwork showing off an Indiana Jones-inspired temple in place of the existing Dinosaur thrill ride while composer John Williams' Indiana Jones score played overhead.

D'Amaro stresses that, while not a final piece of concept art, the image — which showed the aging Dinoland U.S.A. section of the park re-themed to tropical American locales with Encanto and Coco attractions — highlights "where our heads are" as his team continues "dreaming" plans for Animal Kingdom's next big move.

"We've got so many stories to tell, we have so many things we want to make even better in the theme parks. My plan is to continue to share that with the guests. I know people are like, 'My gosh, I can't believe he's saying this. Is he serious, is he not?' The answer is, we are absolutely serious," he says, also pointing to the company's recent announcement that it would spend $60 billion on improving global properties over the next 10 years. "We know what this business is capable of, we know what our fans expect of us, and we're going all in. You're going to see more and more of that. As we make our way through some of these ideas, some of them will become real, and we'll say that's specifically what we're going to do, but I want our guests to be on the journey with us."

Following D'Amaro's D23 presentation, many Disney parks fans questioned how Indiana Jones might fit in within Animal Kingdom, a park founded on principles of wildlife conservation. D'Amaro, who previously served as Animal Kingdom's vice president, notes that, while he's not ready to go "deep into" specifics just yet, he's optimistic about how that potential move might be received.

"Animal Kingdom is about exploration and adventure," he says. "I was fortunate enough to have run that theme park, so I know how special it is, and I think there are a lot of stories that we can stay true to Animal Kingdom and express new properties in there, and that's what you see us starting to do.""

Full article below.

Disney parks boss addresses potential 'Indiana Jones' ride at Animal Kingdom

Disney parks boss addresses potential 'Indiana Jones' replacement for Dinosaur ride at Animal Kingdom and other big moves: 'We know what our fans expect of us and we're going all in.'

ew.com

He is not ready to go "deep into" specifics yet. So basically, he can't answer the question of how it fits.

 

[LSLS]

Wait am I missing something? I always thought Animal Kingdom was about conservation, I don't remember ever reading about it being about adventure and exploration.