DisneyCane
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That's a good idea since the precedent has been set with Norway.
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SpectreJordan
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The World Showcase should focus on real countries. It'd feel very racist to have Africa's representation in that area to be made up of a fake country. There's plenty of real African countries with interesting cultures that should be celebrated.
If they needed to force Wakanda into EPCOT, then it should go where WOL is rotting away rn. That way you can have it next to the other Marvel ride & I guess you could theme that area as a technology land; two rides based on sci-fi tech & two based on real life tech.
But EPCOT's not a good fit for the Black Panther for a variety of reasons, including the fact that you couldn't build a true Wakanda land there. Hollywood Studios is really the only place that could fit & I think the park desperately needs something like that anyway.
Visually, Black Panther/Wakanda would be a good fit for Animal Kingdom. But there's really no Black Panther stories centered around conservation, so it'd be a poor fit thematically.
If it was up to me, I would've loved for them to figure out how to make Cloud City, Coruscant or Naboo work. Those are my favorite Star Wars locations, but I imagine the first two would've been near impossible to make work.
rd805
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I actually love the thought of Wakanda going into WOL -- in terms of "tech" in the movie and the golden dome, it's actually a pretty great fit if this was some hidden futuristic spot in there.
Well... Many of the African nations were created by colonialists ignoring tribal and regional cultures. So, it probably would be best to go with a region of Africa, just like Africa in DAK is "East Africa," and not a specific nation. Also, Norway, e.g., was originally going to be Scandinavia.
However, national pavilions are paid for and run by organizations of a country/region. Unless some African organization/country steps up to foot the bill, it ain't happening. Which means, almost certainly... it ain't happening.
BTW, don't forget Morocco is African!
TheMaxRebo
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Fully agree that the Africa Outpost is bad
Almost worse than having nothing
(Though the food and bev there isn't bad)
TheMaxRebo
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If they feel the need to do that I think this is the best option and would fit with Guardians and that side of Future world
LittleBuford
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This would create a very strange disparity, and one rightly open to a lot of criticism. Leaving aside the fact that a country created by colonialists can still develop a meaningful national identity, an easy way around the putative issue would be to opt for somewhere like Ethiopia, which has a deep history as a cultural and political entity.
aladdin2007
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it doesnt even have merch anymore, just all closed up. pathetic.
SpectreJordan
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It's not the worst idea. But I think the setting is cool enough to justify a land.
I'm sure they could find a way that would honor a specific culture in a dignified fashion.Well... Many of the African nations were created by colonialists ignoring tribal and regional cultures. So, it probably would be best to go with a region of Africa, just like Africa in DAK is "East Africa," and not a specific nation. Also, Norway, e.g., was originally going to be Scandinavia.
However, national pavilions are paid for and run by organizations of a country/region. Unless some African organization/country steps up to foot the bill, it ain't happening. Which means, almost certainly... it ain't happening.
BTW, don't forget Morocco is African!
As for the funding by a country, I'm sure Disney would be fine if they had to pay for one pavilion; especially since Wakanda won't be funding itself, outside of merch sales maybe lol. Obviously, it's not likely since they haven't added a new one since the 90s but they could.
Disney won't even run Morocco at full capacity even tho it fell into their lap.
Tho, to be fair, they're doing a good job keeping up the place with refurbs.
Tho, to be honest, they pushed out authentic Moroccan merch for Disneyfied Moroccish merch.
Bocabear
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It would be nice to see a new country grace the World Showcase...and not some made up superhero crap. Do that in Hollywood Studios...
Spain, Portugal, Greece, Fiji, Singapore, Brazil...all great choices before installing a totally fake country. At least Norway has roots in a real country pavilion....
Spain, Portugal, Greece, Fiji, Singapore, Brazil...all great choices before installing a totally fake country. At least Norway has roots in a real country pavilion....
SteveAZee
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A thorough analysis.
I gave it a lot of thot.
rd805
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Greece & Brazil are absolute nobrainers to me, and it's a shame ONE OF THEM hasn't been already created -- IP could be brought in, but also recognizable destinations with their art/statues, architecture, and differing cultures compared to what exists in WS today.
James Alucobond
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Greece is sooo easy even under the current model that it’s insane. Athens and the Acropolis in the front, Dion and Mount Olympus in the back. Hop in a trireme for a ride up a flume lift hill accompanied by the Muses singing about Olympus, visit Zeus and most of the pantheon in their palace, get sent over the first drop to see Poseidon, get swallowed by Charybdis and end up with Hades/Pain/Panic, and then escape back to earth with the human/demigod characters from Hercules.
Also eat gyros. Done.
rd805
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Meet and Greet's, high end dining, WINE. Easy $$!
The country pavilions are supported by the country's government. I do not believe Greece is in any way in an economic condition to support a Disney pavilion. Even it they were interested, Disney would probably take a pass. They are already supporting Morocco, do not believe they would want to add a country that may not be able to make a long term commitment.
LittleBuford
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If I'm not mistaken, they aren't any longer and haven't been for some time.
Disney has more than enough money to build and manage new pavilions if it wanted to.
ETA: Indeed, it seems that the only pavilion with any direct funding from a national government was Morocco:
Yesterland: Two Myths about World Showcase at Epcot
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doctornick
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Greece would be an easy option, especially given a built in IP to showcase with Hercules. Biggest issue would be complaints of "yet another European country" instead of South American, Sub-saharan Africa, South Asia, etc.
Personal opinion: doing an "Odyssey" ride - like just follow Homer's story scene by scene - with a quality Sherman Brothers-esque song and heavy on AAs would be a massive win for Epcot. Something similar in scope to the Sindbad ride from Tokyo.