News Wakanda joins Coco, Zootopia, and Encanto on Disney Parks' future blue sky expansion list, reveals Josh D'Amaro

[LittleBuford]

Never meant there weren’t. I just meant the pavilion needs to promote tourism (which is spurred on by showcasing history, culture, food, modern cities, and wild landscapes). Not just The Lion King book report ride.

I think you may be confusing my posts with someone else’s, as I’ve said from the outset that such a pavilion would have to avoid equating Africa with its wildlife.

 

[MaryJaneP]

If we're gonna do fake Wakanda, can we also do fake Arendelle, fake agrahbah, and fake Atlantis or is the intention to keep "World Showcase" a place where you can see what can actually be visited on this world?

 

[Rhinocerous]

There’s only one question that should be asked to determine whether Wakanda belongs in World Showcase.

What is their signature drink?

 

[doctornick]

Can we just be clear: despite all the gnashing of teeth, there’s never been any indications from Disney that they’ve ever (seriously) considered putting Wakanda in World Showcase. We do know that Marvel was considered for the WoL space - it seems considerably more likely that Wakanda would be going there if it were going to go to Epcot. Or Wakanda would go somewhere else at WDW (ie Hollywood Studios).

I too think Disney makes some crazy decisions at times. But there’s virtually no way that this company, with their diversity and inclusion mindset, would even contemplate Wakanda in WS.

 

[Tha Realest]

Can we just be clear: despite all the gnashing of teeth, there’s never been any indications from Disney that they’ve ever (seriously) considered putting Wakanda in World Showcase. We do know that Marvel was considered for the WoL space - it seems considerably more likely that Wakanda would be going there if it were going to go to Epcot. Or Wakanda would go somewhere else at WDW (ie Hollywood Studios).

I too think Disney makes some crazy decisions at times. But there’s virtually no way that this company, with with diversity and inclusion mindset, would even contemplate Wakanda in WS.

Well, the new Tiana ride - heavily influenced and motivated by diversity and inclusion efforts - took inspiration from Avery Island, a salt mine plantation that used slave labor.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

There’s only one question that should be asked to determine whether Wakanda belongs in World Showcase.

What is their signature drink?

VibraniRum?

 

[WaltsTreasureChest]

They could add Asgard in Epcot too

 

[danlb_2000]

VibraniRum?

You win the thread!

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

I just have one question. Did you have to Google those character names for correct spelling or did you already know them?

Did you miss my name here? lol

(I'll admit I double-checked N'Jadaka - but I had it right!)

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Sounds good. While we are at it, we could easily replace outdated Future World attractions like Soarin and Living with the Land with Strange World and Lightyear rides.

Pass. But I would TOTALLY go on Soarin' Thru the MCU!

 

[BlakeW39]

I see we're aiming for the bottom as usual, Mr. IPger. Really doing a great job of making me wholly disinterested in your "theme" (not really) parks.

 

[flyerjab]

Can we just be clear: despite all the gnashing of teeth, there’s never been any indications from Disney that they’ve ever (seriously) considered putting Wakanda in World Showcase. We do know that Marvel was considered for the WoL space - it seems considerably more likely that Wakanda would be going there if it were going to go to Epcot. Or Wakanda would go somewhere else at WDW (ie Hollywood Studios).

I too think Disney makes some crazy decisions at times. But there’s virtually no way that this company, with their diversity and inclusion mindset, would even contemplate Wakanda in WS.

Guarantee that someone has looked at adding it in DAK.

 

[J4546]

Id love for Wakanda to be a big part of the new avengers campus ride, i know it was supposed to be a flight style to wakanda before things changed, hopefully some of the ride still takes place there.

 

[Brer Panther]

What’s worse though it’s not just that they enforce IP, because I understand why but it’s that they won’t touch IP that they have and is over 10 years old.

Unless it stars a Disney PrincessTM, apparently. That's probably the only reason we got Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and the Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along in the France pavilion.

A ride that doesn’t work as designed

So, Disney would be more inclined to actually fix the Yeti if the attraction were based on an IP? Or if instead of an animatronic Yeti, it was an animatronic of, say, Olaf? Is that what you're saying?

Can Disney put out some reimagined Oz stuff so we can get that IP!

They tried it in 2013 with Oz the Great and Powerful. I recall there were rumors of them adding an Oz land to Disneyland after that, but nothing came out of it.

folk heroes like Paul Bunyan and John Henry

AND Disney has adapted both stories! As shorts, but still...

I'd love Lion King ride

With our luck, it would probably be based on the "live action" remake.

 

[SpectreJordan]

The Nondescript Coaster Themed Like India or Whatever was still a better return on investment than anything they’d done since. While that’s not due to a rejection of franchises (a term I think better defines the requirement than just IP and explains why older, smaller properties are ignored) it shows how the franchise mandate was not in response to a failure and the serious problems with cost control. Expedition Everest was a huge success that immediately rejected by Iger who was convinced that only franchises could appeal to audiences and were the key to success. While costs were to rise, that view of the unflappable power of franchises justified an acceleration of costs that resulted in things like Pixar Pier costing more than a true E ticket experience.

Harry Potter is what happened there. Hogsmeade is probably the biggest blow to Disney's theme park dominance. It's why Disney has gone so hard with franchises everywhere. It's disappointing they went this route (somewhat, I think Pandora/Radiator/GE are great additions to those parks) but it makes sense from a soulless money making perspective.

If Hogsmeade never opened or if it sucked, I think we would've kept getting original rides.

Regardless of park, is Wakanda outside the Universal/Marvel agreement of Marvel representation east of the Mississippi River?

I wonder if it's possible for Disney to buy back individual characters. Black Panther has almost no presence in IOA, it wouldn't cost Universal anything to give him up.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Harry Potter is what happened there. Hogsmeade is probably the biggest blow to Disney's theme park dominance. It's why Disney has gone so hard with franchises everywhere. It's disappointing they went this route (somewhat, I think Pandora/Radiator/GE are great additions to those parks) but it makes sense from a soulless money making perspective.

If Hogsmeade never opened or if it sucked, I think we would've kept getting original rides.

I wonder if it's possible for Disney to buy back individual characters. Black Panther has almost no presence in IOA, it wouldn't cost Universal anything to give him up.

One difference with Potter is that Potter fans will always dream of being able to enter the Wizarding World. Universal did that by building locations we wanted to visit. I’ll be curious to see how the EU land works since it’s not an iconic HP setting.

Star Wars missed this by not building a place we knew existed or wanted to visit.

TSL missed this because no one watches Toy Story and desperately dreams of visiting Andy’s back yard.

Pandora was arguably the best attempt but for whatever reason, it still doesn’t seem to be the same smash hit as WWoHP. I think WWoHP is, perhaps, even more unique because it had sights, sounds, smells, and tastes we all wanted to experience. Pandora just doesn’t provide that level of sensory experience (but it’s close). When you literally create a land where people even want to visit your gift shops because they read about them or saw them in the source material, it’s going to print money. How do you compete with Honeydukes?

SWGE would probably be more popular if they’d built Tatooine and that has some built in retail in the source material.

 

[James Alucobond]

Star Wars missed this by not building a place we knew existed or wanted to visit.

I don’t think there really is a Star Wars location people generally want to visit. The galaxy isn’t exactly the most pleasant place.

 

[Tha Realest]

I don’t think there really is a Star Wars location people generally want to visit. The galaxy isn’t exactly the most pleasant place.

The casino in TLJ or the cloud city on Bespin would be cool. Likewise some aspects of Naboo.

 

[James Alucobond]

The casino in TLJ or the cloud city on Bespin would be cool. Likewise some aspects of Naboo.

Kind of? But it still doesn’t strike me as some sort of missed opportunity. There aren’t specific landmarks or anything most people are dying to visit like with HP. The iconic vehicles are already there, and in my opinion, generic Star Wars cantina/casino/whatever would do just as well as a specific one. The dearth of facilities in general is the actual problem, not the particular location.

 

[Disone]

The Nondescript Coaster Themed Like India or Whatever was still a better return on investment than anything they’d done since. While that’s not due to a rejection of franchises (a term I think better defines the requirement than just IP and explains why older, smaller properties are ignored) it shows how the franchise mandate was not in response to a failure and the serious problems with cost control. Expedition Everest was a huge success that immediately rejected by Iger who was convinced that only franchises could appeal to audiences and were the key to success. While costs were to rise, that view of the unflappable power of franchises justified an acceleration of costs that resulted in things like Pixar Pier costing more than a true E ticket experience.

Iger rejected expedition Everest? I don't understand. Clearly it got built so it wasn't "rejected".

I don't think it's success can be denied. It resulted in a huge attendance boost for the park and has remained ever popular since it's opening.