FourFourSeven said:Gosh - I love Walt Disney and Jim Henson as much as the next guy, but they're nowhere near the top. Off the top of my head, what about...
Ben Franklin
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
FDR
Martin Luther King Jr.
Susan B. Anthony
Albert Einstein
Now, if the list was "greatest American ENTERTAINERS" then Walt definitely goes at or near the top.
Of course, these sorts of lists are silly anyway. How can one argue "Lincoln was greater than Einstein" - it just doesn't make any sense. That's like saying "The 1996 Bulls are better than the 2004 Red Sox."![]()
TRITON4ME said:But lets not forget about who should be #1-- George Washington. I mean he is basically the sole reason why we won the American Revoluation and why we are not under British control.
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If you took an american history class, than you would KNOW that Washington was one of the worst Field Generals in American History...The only battle he actually won, was the Seige at Yorktown, which he only succeeded in due to the nice help we recieved from the french...Great leader....no where near the sole reason we won the american revolution
FourFourSeven said:Gosh - I love Walt Disney and Jim Henson as much as the next guy, but they're nowhere near the top. Off the top of my head, what about...
Ben Franklin
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
FDR
Martin Luther King Jr.
Susan B. Anthony
Albert Einstein
ArchiDanDisney said:TRITON4ME said:But lets not forget about who should be #1-- George Washington. I mean he is basically the sole reason why we won the American Revoluation and why we are not under British control.
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If you took an american history class, than you would KNOW that Washington was one of the worst Field Generals in American History...The only battle he actually won, was the Seige at Yorktown, which he only succeeded in due to the nice help we recieved from the french...Great leader....no where near the sole reason we won the american revolution
Obviously it has been a while since you have taken an American History class! During the American Revolution Washington's strategy was never to just 'win' a battle. In fact, until the Frech showed up to our aid we (Americans) were fighting a defensive battle in which winning was not the top priority. And that French leader you are thinking about is General Rochembeau and yes he did have a large influence on Washington's troops. My history professor wrote a very interesting thesis on what he thinks the Revolution would have turned out if Washington was not chosen as our leader. He concluded that Washington is the only leader who would have not given up when the Britsh held the upper hand in the war. I mean think about it, our other candidates for Washington's position were: Hamilton, Haratio Gates (who did serve as a commander under Washington but abandon his troops on many occasions), Samual Adams (who basically was just a professional propagandist and had no battle experience at all)
My professor has repeadly said about Washington: "he lost every battle except the last one." However, Washington's ability to get General Burgoin to surrender at the Battle of Saratoga was a turning point in the war because it pursuaded the French to come to our aid and that began to turn the tables in the war. Without, the French there would have been no way to defeat the far superior British army and Washington was able to rally his troops at Saratoga and motivate the French to come to our aid.
Ok there's your free history lesson for today, test on Monday!
Nut4Disney said:Ronald Reagan
Thomas Edison
Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson
Albert Sabin
BTW - FDR was one of the worst presidents this country has ever had. :brick:
Nut4Disney said:Wow! You know it all Triton4Me, except how to spell (ridiculous). From G. Washington to B. Franklin to the American Revolution and even FDR. And by the way, my opinion was in no way propaganda. I mean, how could I influence such an astute intellectual like yourself. I guess the years of studying your historically biased textbooks finally paid off for you. You are able to share your knowledge and insight with those on a Disney chat board. How proud you must be. Kudos to you sir! As I am at work right now earning a living and do not have time to rebut right now, I will have to reply tomorrow with facts regarding FDR. Actually I believe I have a paper I wrote about 15 yrs ago in college regarding this topic. In case it's packed away in the depths of my basement, what is that site again? Oh yeah, Biography.com. :lol: (hardly!) By the way, what historians would you be referring to? The same historians who will make sure that Bill Clinton goes down in the history books as a great and moral president. Please, put down the NY Times and turn off CNN and MTV and welcome to the real world. That's really the sad part, Universities teaching impressionable kids, liberal biased, politically correct garbage.![]()
imagineer boy said:I voted for Walt fourteen times, and Jim Henson once. :sohappy:
And guys, this is a good thread. Please please please don't turn it into a political argument. Please. It seems to be going in that direction.
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