Volcano Bay

[Tom Morrow]

Anyone know if there are any plans to put a better border around the park? A thin line of patchy bamboo and a standard height fence are not enough. They should be doing everything they can to create as much of a barrier as possible around the perimeter of the park.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I agree with your post in general, the justification of why the virtual line is better for water park than theme park is perfect. But in regards to the quoted part, I didn't mean multiple lines, just one virtual and one physical, I agree in part that it still would be difficult to make it work, but you couldn't just tap on every attraction at once. Tap on one and then go and wait physically for something that doesn't offer a virtual wait (probably a body or mat slide).

A virtual queue is like someone saving your place in line. In your scenario you still inflate lines because you are "standing" in both lines.

 

[mergatroid]

The waits have to do with getting people through. That is an operational and even design issue. It is not a direct outcome of Tapu Tapu. Without Tapu Tapu, you still have ridiculously long waits and you still have people not doing other slides. That is why you clearly don't understand the issue, because you keep blaming the wrong thing.

I've blamed several things including capacity and design along with tapu, tapu. However which of those things do you honestly think are going to be the easiest to change or fix? I'm sure redesigning the loading bays that Universal has spent many months and a good deal of money building isn't an option really, or is it? I can't imagine that top brass are going to be jumping through hoops to reduce the number of guests allowed in the park either, as that would also lose them money? They do however have a system installed which may or may not be able to be tweaked to help the flow of guests even more, would you agree?

I've read on here that tapu, tapu will allow those paying for expensive cabanas to be able to join more than one virtual queue at a time, that's been mentioned on here somewhere before I'm sure. If that's true (not my claim though) then this means the system can be tweaked. If it can then why wouldn't we discuss this instead of dismissing those suggesting it as people who don't understand the system? Maybe I'm stupid and everyone is laughing at my stupidity, fair enough if that's the case. I'm merely proposing a method of using one of several possible ways to increase crowd flow even if that method wasn't what was originally designed for that system to do. If it's completely impossible to do then fair enough however it does appear that tapu, tapu can be adjusted for those paying more. Perhaps there's a workaround on that?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I've blamed several things including capacity and design along with tapu, tapu. However which of those things do you honestly think are going to be the easiest to change or fix? I'm sure redesigning the loading bays that Universal has spent many months and a good deal of money building isn't an option really, or is it? I can't imagine that top brass are going to be jumping through hoops to reduce the number of guests allowed in the park either, as that would also lose them money? They do however have a system installed which may or may not be able to be tweaked to help the flow of guests even more, would you agree?

I've read on here that tapu, tapu will allow those paying for expensive cabanas to be able to join more than one virtual queue at a time, that's been mentioned on here somewhere before I'm sure. If that's true (not my claim though) then this means the system can be tweaked. If it can then why wouldn't we discuss this instead of dismissing those suggesting it as people who don't understand the system? Maybe I'm stupid and everyone is laughing at my stupidity, fair enough if that's the case. I'm merely proposing a method of using one of several possible ways to increase crowd flow even if that method wasn't what was originally designed for that system to do. If it's completely impossible to do then fair enough however it does appear that tapu, tapu can be adjusted for those paying more. Perhaps there's a workaround on that?

Changing Tapu Tapu does nothing to capacity on a ride. Absolutely nothing.

Yes, a virtual queue can allow double dipping and line cutting. That's nothing new. It's why you have all the tiers of Flash Pass. But it doesn't do anything to fix your complaint because by making double dipping free you just increase queues because people are in two lines at once. The capacity doesn't magically increase.

 

[Jon81uk]

A virtual queue is like someone saving your place in line. In your scenario you still inflate lines because you are "standing" in both lines.

Yes , I stated that in a previous post. But in the same way the lazy river doesn't need a pass to get into it, one possibility could be to have high capacity slides that don't need one, just so people feel there is something else they can do when there is a several hour long wait going on. But as I noted it probably isn't possible with the current selection of slides.

 

[mergatroid]

Changing Tapu Tapu does nothing to capacity on a ride. Absolutely nothing.

Yes, a virtual queue can allow double dipping and line cutting. That's nothing new. It's why you have all the tiers of Flash Pass. But it doesn't do anything to fix your complaint because by making double dipping free you just increase queues because people are in two lines at once. The capacity doesn't magically increase.

But couldn't they use tapu, tapu more like a fast pass. You seem stuck on the concept of not maybe changing the way tapu, tapu was originally designed to work, that's all that's been suggested. @Jon81uk is making some reasoned suggestions but you seem unwilling to discuss any change?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes , I stated that in a previous post. But in the same way the lazy river doesn't need a pass to get into it, one possibility could be to have high capacity slides that don't need one, just so people feel there is something else they can do when there is a several hour long wait going on. But as I noted it probably isn't possible with the current selection of slides.

A lazy river works because it has not just a high capacity, but excess capacity. Your select high capacity slides would just be swamped with people double dipping, so your right back at the same complaint of excessive wait times.

But couldn't they use tapu, tapu more like a fast pass. You seem stuck on the concept of not maybe changing the way tapu, tapu was originally designed to work, that's all that's been suggested. @Jon81uk is making some reasoned suggestions but you seem unwilling to discuss any change?

A reservation system does not change capacity, so it won't fix the actual problem. At best it masks the issue for some.

 

[mergatroid]

A lazy river works because it has not just a high capacity, but excess capacity. Your select high capacity slides would just be swamped with people double dipping, so your right back at the same complaint of excessive wait times.
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But the point he was making was there'd be slides to actually ride whilst waiting in the virtual queue which is a different point to the one you're answering to?

 

[lazyboy97o]

But the point he was making was there'd be slides to actually ride whilst waiting in the virtual queue which is a different point to the one you're answering to?

The whole complaint is based on the excessive wait times. Those are not fixed by playing games. They still only trick some people into thinking they didn't wait.

 

[mergatroid]

The whole complaint is based on the excessive wait times. Those are not fixed by playing games. They still only trick some people into thinking they didn't wait.

I don't think people mind waiting if there's stuff to do elsewhere other than just a pool or lazy river, that's been stated multiple times in this thread? It may not address everything but it's a start, what would you do to improve things?

 

[Eckert]

Kala & Tai Nui Serpentine Body Slides, the blue and green ones at the top of the volcano, have a weight limit of only 200 pounds.

So there's one less thing most people can do...

 

[sonoma15]

Alright here's my review:

TAPU-TAPU
Rating: 7/10
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This is kind of complicated but the taputapu actually worked really great for us, the waits weren't long at all (I think the max we waited was 35 minutes) even though it said they were 100+ for some slides, the reason I took 3 points off is because we only found about 2 Tapu touch interactive points that were actually working, once they get all of them working I will definitely rate it about a 9/10.

ATMOSPHERE
Rating: 7/10
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Volcano bay is a beautiful water park and has the best atmosphere of any water park I've ever been in, the music, the mist everywhere, and the extra details really add to it and make it a great experience, the reason I took off 3 points though is because a lot of things are not finished yet towards the end of the park but once they get finished I will probably give the atmosphere a 10/10

SLIDES
Rating: 9/10
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The slides are truly amazing, I didn't ride all of them but I rode Maku and Puihi, Kala/Tai Nui, Krakatau Aqua Coaster, and Taniwha Tubes. So during the 6 hours I was there I got to ride 6 slides and eat lunch and other things, I think that's pretty good and I had a really enjoyable time on these slides, all of them were super fun and great, especially the two trapdoor slides. The reason I give the slides a 9/10 instead of a 10/10 is because Honu was closed all day and some slides were experiencing some downtime, not that much though.

Other Water Attractions
Rating: 6/10
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The reason I'm giving these a 6/10 is because the fast lazy river was half down throughout the day, sometimes it would be slow, sometimes it would be fast, sometimes the waves would be on and sometimes they would be off, it was really confusing and I don't really know what they were doing. Also the exposed steel in the volcano on the fearless river is a little weird and looks out of place, thankfully there was some mist to hide some of it and I think they will be adding more mist too. Other then those problems it was super fun and when the waves were on it was great. Other then that the wave-pool and slow moving lazy river look great, except one problem is you get more wet on the slow lazy river then the fast one because of an impossible to dodge waterfall. If these problems weren't apparent I would probably give these attractions a 8/10.

FOOD
Rating: 10/10
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I didn't have much but the food I had, the long-board pizza, Waturi Fusion, and the POG slushie, were good and very enjoyable, this is excellent food for a waterpark considering most usually don't have this type of quality of food.

OVERALL RATING
Rating: 7.8/10
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I had a wonderful time at Volcano Bay and I can't wait to go back in about 3 weeks time, this is the best water-park I've ever been too and I absolutely love everything about it. The slides, atmosphere, food, tapu-tapu, and other water attractions all clash together to make one amazing water park, Volcano Bay is a truly enjoyable place. I know this review was kind of on the short end but I can assure you I had a really great time and I can't wait to go back.

 

[JT3000]

Kala & Tai Nui Serpentine Body Slides, the blue and green ones at the top of the volcano, have a weight limit of only 200 pounds.

So there's one less thing most people can do...

It's 300.

 

[trr1]

well if the rumors are true and there is a 5 acre expansion coming do you think that may help?

 

[flynnibus]

Disney hasn't had any major issues with FP+, other than people not liking have to book ride reservations in advance.

I lol'd

Funny how you forget all the people that had so many issues with the system completely forgetting their stuff (remember people PRINTING out their schedules)... Entire system failures... Entirely new helpdesks to help staff the support need... staff out the whazoo to help people figure out the kiosks.. problems with their MDE profiles... problems with bands not being 'activated' when they were before.. And on and on. 'no major issues'... comical.

Disney has had plenty, but they kept squashing bugs and improving reliability over the years it's been running. And I haven't even addressed the issues with operational impacts.

 

[JoeCamel]

It's 300.

It has been changed for now from what the twits say. Have not seen signage though

 

[Adam N]

I have two questions. When you get your time for the attraction you want, you then wait til it buzzes and lets you know to ride, yeah? So, if the time you signed up for was 60 minutes, does it buzz exactly at 60, or does it factor in how fast or slow the attraction is moving? Kind of like when you get in a standby line and it says 60 but it's really 45. And second question, when you return to the attraction for your time, do you tap somewhere at the attraction to enter the minimal queue or do you just get in?

 

[JT3000]

It has been changed for now from what the twits say. Have not seen signage though

You mean tweets? I haven't seen them tweet about this. Regardless, it's too absurd to not be a mix up of some sort. The most intense slides in the entire park only rideable by women & children? I haven't seen any indication of this being enforced either.

 

[captainkidd]

I lol'd

Funny how you forget all the people that had so many issues with the system completely forgetting their stuff (remember people PRINTING out their schedules)... Entire system failures... Entirely new helpdesks to help staff the support need... staff out the whazoo to help people figure out the kiosks.. problems with their MDE profiles... problems with bands not being 'activated' when they were before.. And on and on. 'no major issues'... comical.

Disney has had plenty, but they kept squashing bugs and improving reliability over the years it's been running. And I haven't even addressed the issues with operational impacts.

Guess I've been lucky. Been 6 times since MB and FP+ came out. Never had a single problem with either.

 

[Eckert]

You mean tweets? I haven't seen them tweet about this. Regardless, it's too absurd to not be a mix up of some sort. The most intense slides in the entire park only rideable by women & children? I haven't seen any indication of this being enforced either.

It's 200. It's been 200 for a few days now. It has been enforced.

Source: I know.