VIDEO - Take a look inside the stunning ballroom of the 'Be Our Guest Restaurant'

Flip83

Active Member
Complaining about 6 months prior to opening? I'm so shocked. :brick::brick:

Funny thing is, almost everyone was saying how stupid Circusland idea was. Then they soft opened a portion of it and it got nothing but great feedback.

I'd say for about 6 months more work to be done, it looks incredible. Calm down and wait for finished product. Everytime there is updated photos of FLE, it keeps looking better and better. The attention to detail gets better and better. And there is still so much more stuff to be done.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I think you are reading perhaps a tad too much into the 'tone'.

Having said that, you are no more guilty of that than most of us on these boards who have a particular predisposition towards...well, everything we discuss. To quote that great Supertramp song 'A Soapbox Opera'..."I hear, only what I want to hear..."
That may be true.

I like to think I don't really care enough to have a predisposition regarding projects that aren't complete.

As such, I don't have an opinion one way or another on this room, because it isn't finish, nor do I have the expertise to judge the quality from two 3 minute videos.

With that said, while I might be off on the overall tone of the video, the slight exasperation when Chris Kelly had to explain the scale of the room was unmistakable.
 

dreamscometrue

Well-Known Member
That may be true.

I like to think I don't really care enough to have a predisposition regarding projects that aren't complete.

As such, I don't have an opinion one way or another on this room, because it isn't finish, nor do I have the expertise to judge the quality from two 3 minute videos.

With that said, while I might be off on the overall tone of the video, the slight exasperation when Chris Kelly had to explain the scale of the room was unmistakable.

I certainly agree with you there. :)
 

SleepingMonk

Well-Known Member
I'm sure they'll add more details as it progresses but you can get a sense of the scale from the size of the doors and arches. Most of the video is from ground level not the balconies which gives you a good perspective as well.

When that room is full of tables and chairs it will look even smaller.

In my opinion....worth exactly what you paid for it.....it looks no different than every buffet hall in every golf and country club I've ever been in.

Zero wow factor.
 

SleepingMonk

Well-Known Member
I honestly haven't followed the planning at all, is there any mention of interactive/AA elements for the dining area?

Everything in the movie was alive from candles to cups.

Anything hinted at yet?
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
However, the thing that interests me the most is the mural. The mural is suppose to be the forest surrounding the castle, and I think that sounds like a wonderful idea. Issue is though, from the video, it seems so dark and dreary. They spent a long time working on that mural, and as of right now, all the details are lost. I hope when it's in full effect, there will be some amazing lighting system for the mural, highlighting the art. But at the same time, it needs to look natural. A moon light effect, if you will.


As you said, it's a WIP.

Lighting is the last thing you set up, as it requires everything to be in it's final positioning or you will just be doing it again later when everything is done. You can't make sure the light bounces off the right places, etc., until the things it's going to bounce off of are all in place. ;)

I'm sure that mural will look spectacular all lit up. If there is one thing Disney can do, it's good lighting.
 

Enchantâmes

Active Member
I'm sure they'll add more details as it progresses but you can get a sense of the scale from the size of the doors and arches. Most of the video is from ground level not the balconies which gives you a good perspective as well.

When that room is full of tables and chairs it will look even smaller.

In my opinion....worth exactly what you paid for it.....it looks no different than every buffet hall in every golf and country club I've ever been in.

Zero wow factor.

This.
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
At least they admit they are not fully recreating the ballroom now. :rolleyes:

The cherubs in the mural aren't static in the film, either. I wonder if they're planning to animate the cherubs in the restaurant.

(My guess -- since the lights are the only thing they're bragging about -- is they won't.)
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
With that said, while I might be off on the overall tone of the video, the slight exasperation when Chris Kelly had to explain the scale of the room was unmistakable.

Her explanation -- if you want to call it that -- sounds more like spin that weakly rebuts those people who recognized that the "exact details from the film" nonsense is promotional hype.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
I've got to say, after seeing the video now, that the people jumping all over it are just plain wacky.

I am the first one to call on Disney, but as has been said, the room is not done yet. Wait until all those white-filled windows above are also showing "outside". And that comparison pic people are saying isn't alike - I'm sorry, you aren't looking close enough. Six large windows, smaller windows lining the top.

As one of THREE dining rooms, I think it's plenty big. And when the top windows are done, I think a lot of that "oooh it looks tiny" stuff will dissipate.

In any case, I'm excited. If it's really as bad as some people say, I'll sure have fun eating there and it will be easier to get a ressie. :)
 

bhodge

Member
Lets be realistic people

Ok firs of all its a food service location. Requirements are going to be different for that than a set that you ride through or past. Perspective and scale is going to be different because it has different real world functional requirements with codes, occupancy requirements and materials that must be durable and function very differently that set items that are looked at. I honestly can't believe the level of criticism about this project. It can not look like a movie set - that was not physically constructed and therefor didn't have to hold to any real world logic.

That being said - I think the problem stems from the fact that that are changing the fundamental function of the room from the movie and that is forcing them to alter scale in a wear that is not meeting the expectations that some people have for this space. In the movie that was not a dining room or a banquet hall - it was a ballroom. It was a very vertical space that didn't have to accommodate diners at tables. Has anyone really commented on the fact that there are 3 chandeliers instead of one from the movie? By giving the room the more horizontal orientation necessary to function as a dining space, that have fundamentally altered the proportion and scale of the space. Maybe if the ballroom was a grand "foyer" that you passed through or waited in to be escorted and seated in one of the adjoining room (like a true dining room, library, banquet hall etc) this would have not been an issue. The space could have been a much smaller footprint and that would have forced the height perspective in a more convincing way. There could have been one amazing chandelier in a more square shaped room and everyone would be happier with the direct "movie lift". That's no the direction they went, so we are going to have to accept that it COULD NOT look exactly like the movie because it is functioning in a totally different way.
 

Enchantâmes

Active Member
I've got to say, after seeing the video now, that the people jumping all over it are just plain wacky.

I am the first one to call on Disney, but as has been said, the room is not done yet. Wait until all those white-filled windows above are also showing "outside". And that comparison pic people are saying isn't alike - I'm sorry, you aren't looking close enough. Six large windows, smaller windows lining the top.

As one of THREE dining rooms, I think it's plenty big. And when the top windows are done, I think a lot of that "oooh it looks tiny" stuff will dissipate.

In any case, I'm excited. If it's really as bad as some people say, I'll sure have fun eating there and it will be easier to get a ressie. :)

Hey if you wanna eat in a mediocre recreation be my guest. I'm going to keep spending my money at DLR. :wave:
 

WED Purist

Well-Known Member
As you said, it's a WIP.

Lighting is the last thing you set up, as it requires everything to be in it's final positioning or you will just be doing it again later when everything is done. You can't make sure the light bounces off the right places, etc., until the things it's going to bounce off of are all in place. ;)

I'm sure that mural will look spectacular all lit up. If there is one thing Disney can do, it's good lighting.

The team doing the lighting is the same team that did Dumbo, and he turned out pretty good.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
I honestly haven't followed the planning at all, is there any mention of interactive/AA elements for the dining area?

Everything in the movie was alive from candles to cups.

Anything hinted at yet?

I THINK I saw a design for a Lumiere AA in a post on this site or maybe D23....can't exactly remember...but I DO recall that there are SUPPOSED to be AAs in the restaurant somewhere...
 

docandsix

Active Member
Hey if you wanna eat in a mediocre recreation be my guest. I'm going to keep spending my money at DLR. :wave:

Just wondering: Where?

Other than Blue Bayou, DLR has very, very few impressive dining locations within the parks. (I'm not counting Steakhouse 55 or Napa Rose.) Are there any at all, really?

The arguments comparing WDW and DLR are endless, but on the question of dining options, food quality, and variety of restaurant ambiance, WDW wins hands down now and will unquestionably continue to even after the Fantasyland expansion opens at WDW and the California Adventure expansion/re-imagining is complete.
 

Gracy_hm

Member
Dining Room

Lets also not forget how loud Disney restaurants can be. If we had a tall domed ceiling the acoustics of screaming children and arguing spouses would be overwhelming. I understand the very valid points made by fans about accuracy and detail but there must be adjustments for the sake of the guests dining experience. I think the other rooms and the overall experience is sure to amaze.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Just wondering: Where?

Other than Blue Bayou, DLR has very, very few impressive dining locations within the parks. (I'm not counting Steakhouse 55 or Napa Rose.) Are there any at all, really?

For those of us who have been to the real New Orleans, the food at the Blue Bayou is nasty. :hurl:

:lol:
 

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