Vertical Construction

kap91

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I apologize for not having pics but there are currently some low foundation walls and more importantly two cranes now at the site working. If this isn't the start of vertical construction then I would venture to say it'll start very soon. This is all happening towards the beauty and the beast side of expansion.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I apologize for not having pics but there are currently some low foundation walls and more importantly two cranes now at the site working. If this isn't the start of vertical construction then I would venture to say it'll start very soon. This is all happening towards the beauty and the beast side of expansion.

Great news!

BatB seems to be the priority right now. I wonder if it will exentually replace the CC TS. I keep thinking they could give the MK a similar overlay that TDL is getting which would go a long way in explaining the cancellation of the enhanced M&G. It would also explain the rumors of the SWSA location as being temporary.
 

Eeyore

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Premium Member
As far as we've heard, the vertical construction near the Beauty and the Beast site up to this point is for the utilidor expansion, most visable is an elevator shaft.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
As far as we've heard, the vertical construction near the Beauty and the Beast site up to this point is for the utilidor expansion, most visable is an elevator shaft.

OK, now I'm completely lost :dazzle:

:lol:


Anyway, gotta go. :wave:
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
You guys ever wonder if Dumbo has seen a large increase in riders that want to stare over the fence? I know for our trip, my DD will be asking to ride it non-stop, so it's moot for me, but I'd guess there are a lot of guests seeing that wall and hopping on Dumbo just to get a peek at the big-ol-mounda-dirt.
 

RunnerEd

Well-Known Member
You guys ever wonder if Dumbo has seen a large increase in riders that want to stare over the fence? I know for our trip, my DD will be asking to ride it non-stop, so it's moot for me, but I'd guess there are a lot of guests seeing that wall and hopping on Dumbo just to get a peek at the big-ol-mounda-dirt.

I've wondered if the number of adults without kids has gone up for Dumbo. I know in July, I was the one asking my 3 year old if she wanted to ride Dumbo again :)
 

laynalee07

Well-Known Member
Well we will be leaving for our trip in 30 DAYS!!!!... i will for sure be taking some pictures.. hopefully by then there will be some visible signs of construction taking place!
 

rbrower

Well-Known Member
You guys ever wonder if Dumbo has seen a large increase in riders that want to stare over the fence? I know for our trip, my DD will be asking to ride it non-stop, so it's moot for me, but I'd guess there are a lot of guests seeing that wall and hopping on Dumbo just to get a peek at the big-ol-mounda-dirt.
Just went this weekend, and I went on Dumbo about 3 times, while I usually go on it once at the most. My camera just happened to snap a few pictures while I was up there. :lookaroun
 

FutureWorld1982

Well-Known Member
Some pictures of the vertical construction:

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Some more pictures: http://orlandoparksnews.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-fantasyland-update.html

EDIT: Wow, why are these pictures soo big?
The site doesn't automatically resize them?
 

NASAMan

Member
When I worked on Sunday I noticed that the Little Mermaid foundation appeared complete and fill had been brought in to level the grade around it. The B&B restaurant area was getting a lot of love. The service elevator was being prepared for a second story. Grading and footing placement for the foundation were occurring around it.

Originally, directly behind the Grotto area was a walkway to the grotto itself and then a dropoff down a story to the level of the Utilidor. An entrance to a utilidor hallway to costuming and locker rooms was found here. This area has been closed off while a new retaining wall is built and assumably will be covered over by the Belle M&G area, if the original plans are still being followed here, which it appears to be.

Once this foundation is in, there will need to be a lot of fill and grading to landscape the area. I believe this is what the mountain of dirt will be used for. I think it has been placed where it is to prevent the observation of the backstage area behind Toontown, as seen in earlier photos when the trees were removed. As more vertical construction at the Ariel ride takes place, the mountain would not be needed and can be distributed where needed.

These are my observations interpreted with a little knowledge of construction. I'm sure there are many with much more knowledge than I.
 

Tom

Beta Return
When I worked on Sunday I noticed that the Little Mermaid foundation appeared complete and fill had been brought in to level the grade around it. The B&B restaurant area was getting a lot of love. The service elevator was being prepared for a second story. Grading and footing placement for the foundation were occurring around it.

Originally, directly behind the Grotto area was a walkway to the grotto itself and then a dropoff down a story to the level of the Utilidor. An entrance to a utilidor hallway to costuming and locker rooms was found here. This area has been closed off while a new retaining wall is built and assumably will be covered over by the Belle M&G area, if the original plans are still being followed here, which it appears to be.

Once this foundation is in, there will need to be a lot of fill and grading to landscape the area. I believe this is what the mountain of dirt will be used for. I think it has been placed where it is to prevent the observation of the backstage area behind Toontown, as seen in earlier photos when the trees were removed. As more vertical construction at the Ariel ride takes place, the mountain would not be needed and can be distributed where needed.

These are my observations interpreted with a little knowledge of construction. I'm sure there are many with much more knowledge than I.

Excellent interpretation of what's going on. Based on the photos linked in a previous post, I'd say you're right on pretty much everything.

The photos above are of piles, which have been driven into the ground to hold up the earth while they make a big hole on the other side of them. Based on where they're located, I'm guessing the big hole is for them to tie into utilities and/or install storm sewers.

The concrete tower at BatB, as you indicated, is simply the elevator shaft for the elevator that will (primarily) haul supplies from the new loading dock up to restaurant level. Or, perhaps it will haul food if the kitchens are in the basement. It's also there because of ADA requirements, since not everyone can climb stairs.

There are lots of concrete forms being assembled at BatB also. They'll be pouring some major concrete foundation walls there soon.

Mountain-o-dirt will definitely be used to cover the entire project upon completion. Right now, most of the project area is at a lower elevation than the adjacent area in FL. Besides, anytime you excavate dirt, it expands in size by 10-20%, but then you lose around 30% from compaction when you use it to fill in around buried utilities, basement walls, foundations, etc. So, that mountain won't go as far as it looks like it will.

I'm anxious to see what LM looks like back there.
 

macsmom

Active Member
Has there been a date mentioned that all of this is supposed to be finished? I can't seem to recall, but I'm sure I just missed it somewhere.

danna
 

BrerFrog

Active Member
I am definitely going to do Dumbo many times over the day to take some pictures when I am there at the end of the year. :lol:
 

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