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US Cinemas Are Reopening Slowly.

brodie999

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London and Montreal theatres are scheduled to reopen in May and March 26th respectively.

 

doctornick

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Is Morbius going to be part of the MCU? I know that's something (along with Venom and other Sony concepts) that's been theorized, but I have a hard time seeing Feige allowing those properties "taint" the MCU with movies that Marvel Studios isn't producing and having creative control.

My guess is that Tom Holland might appear in other Sony films as Spider-Man, but not explicitly as the Spider-Man from the MCU.
 

Archie123

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Well it was just announced that Black Widow and Cruella will now be released on Disney + Premier and in the theaters simultaneously. Pixar's Luca is now going straight to Disney + as well and skipping the theaters altogether and it will be free and not going to Premier. Again, the theaters are not anywhere near a full recovery as long as people can catch new movies at home. Black Widow has also been pushed back by two months and they have numerous other changes in the article.

 

Mmoore29

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Well it was just announced that Black Widow and Cruella will now be released on Disney + Premier and in the theaters simultaneously. Pixar's Luca is now going straight to Disney + as well and skipping the theaters altogether and it will be free and not going to Premier. Again, the theaters are not anywhere near a full recovery as long as people can catch new movies at home. Black Widow has also been pushed back by two months and they have numerous other changes in the article.

You underestimate pent-up demand. Lots of people want to return to theaters, and while recovery certainly won't be near pre-COVID numbers and never was going to be, it'll be much farther along than you think. People want to get out of the house, not sit around on their couches forever.

The movies will have much better numbers in ticket sales, especially when vaccinations are flying. The number of people saying they will refuse is inflated, as it's guaranteed a lot of those people are simply lying and will get jabbed anyways.

Besides, L.A. and many CA markets are going to open at 50 percent capacity now, Regal is going to reopen on April 2, the engine is truly revving now. And with the recent Regal-WB pact, and the fact AMC and Cinemark will soon follow, obviously, Disney is going to do likewise.

Disney and Cinemark will strike a deal to make Raya play there after all and ticket sales will go up. They'll get the chains to support day-and-date and hold fast to the majority of their theatrical plans and keep supporting exhibition. Relaunch campaigns of Mulan, Soul and Luca in theaters are quite probable. (After all, in normal circumstances, Mulan would've earned $1 billion easily and they know they have a market they can't walk away from by any means.) And exhibition will finally realize that a 72-90 day window is outdated and unneccessary.
 

Archie123

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You underestimate pent-up demand. Lots of people want to return to theaters, and while recovery certainly won't be near pre-COVID numbers and never was going to be, it'll be much farther along than you think. People want to get out of the house, not sit around on their couches forever.

The movies will have much better numbers in ticket sales, especially when vaccinations are flying. The number of people saying they will refuse is inflated, as it's guaranteed a lot of those people are simply lying and will get jabbed anyways.

Besides, L.A. and many CA markets are going to open at 50 percent capacity now, Regal is going to reopen on April 2, the engine is truly revving now. And with the recent Regal-WB pact, and the fact AMC and Cinemark will soon follow, obviously, Disney is going to do likewise.

Disney and Cinemark will strike a deal to make Raya play there after all and ticket sales will go up. They'll get the chains to support day-and-date and hold fast to the majority of their theatrical plans and keep supporting exhibition. (After all, in normal circumstances, Mulan would've earned $1 billion easily and they know they have a market they can't walk away from by any means.) And exhibition will finally realize that a 72-90 day window is outdated and unneccessary.

No I understand demand quite well. Theaters will be hurting for awhile which is why Disney is putting these blockbuster movies on Disney +. I mean another free Pixar movie does not show confidence at all.
 

Mmoore29

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No I understand demand quite well. Theaters will be hurting for awhile which is why Disney is putting these blockbuster movies on Disney +. I mean another free Pixar movie does not show confidence at all.
If there was "no confidence", they'd have entirely gutted theaters and done solely streaming.

Disney is clearly going to strike deals to get the chains behind it and help pull out the stops to make ticket sales bounce upwards. Mulan and Soul will also be primed to get the big screen bows in the States they were denied to help prime the engine.
 

Mmoore29

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Again, Disney knows they have a massive market, and that under ordinary circumstances, Mulan and the like would have cleared $1 billion easily. They're not going to leave money on the table.
 

Archie123

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If there was "no confidence", they'd have entirely gutted theaters and done solely streaming.

Disney is clearly going to strike deals to get the chains behind it and help pull out the stops to make ticket sales bounce upwards. Mulan and Soul will also be primed to get the big screen bows in the States they were denied to help prime the engine.

Lol, they still see some ticket sales but obviously not enough to only release their movies in theaters alone. They know they would all be relative bombs so they need to try and bring in Disney + Premier money which still isn't going to be enough to make it successful relative to pre-pandemic expectations.

And you may see Soul and Mulan be released during the summer but most likely at those free movie Saturday mornings for the little kids. Disney has given up on those movies.
 

Mmoore29

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Lol, they still see some ticket sales but obviously not enough to only release their movies in theaters alone. They know they would all be relative bombs so they need to try and bring in Disney + Premier money which still isn't going to be enough to make it successful relative to pre-pandemic expectations.

And you may see Soul and Mulan be released during the summer but most likely at those free movie Saturday mornings for the little kids. Disney has given up on those movies.
You don't know that. Again, it is clear those movies would have broken the $1 billion range in a normal market. Theatrical relaunches help prime the pump and helps out everyone, making a rising tide that lifts all boats. The idea that everyone just wants to sit on their rears and only stay at home is maddening. Everyone wants to get out and desperately wants to. It's just a matter of how much they want it, and of course what their beliefs are, which we won't get into. Saying that no one cares about theaters is just like saying "OK Boomer" or "Millennials ruin everything."

Disney isn't going to leave money on the table and not take advantage of opportunities like this. You honestly think they want to GIVE movies away and not make money? Of course not? No one does, no one can afford to. Which is why they're going to discuss Raya and with Cinemark and strike deals for it, Cruella and Black Widow that they can all live with.
 

Jedijax719

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No I understand demand quite well. Theaters will be hurting for awhile which is why Disney is putting these blockbuster movies on Disney +. I mean another free Pixar movie does not show confidence at all.
I think, a year after the pandemic led to shutdowns, we're in a situation where we know this mess started but don't know what will happen if we try to return to normal. The hypothetical question "what would happen if we release a Marvel film now" will remain hypothetical. I can understand the decision about Luca, unfortunately. However, I am not convinced that the Black Widow decision is necessarily the best. SOMEONE is going to have to release a big film in theaters without same-day streaming options. Marvel is THE biggest franchise. They're the ones to do it. And so the mystery remains.
 

Mmoore29

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Someone can and someone will. Shang-Chi is going to be theatrical only. Disney said from the start "we're not doing what WB did by moving the entire slate to be day-and-date." Again, they know the theatrical market is too big to walk away from.

Sony, Paramount, Universal and Lionsgate also still have a lot of big-screen plans for this year to be theatrical only.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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No one can say for certain when and to what degree movie business will return to normal. Speculation that people are lying about willingness to go to theaters or getting vaccinated is just that, speculation.

A combination of theatrical releases and premier home access will probably be successful. They didn't publish numbers, but a Wonder Woman sequel was green lit based in part on that home rental revenue.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Someone can and someone will. Shang-Chi is going to be theatrical only. Disney said from the start "we're not doing what WB did by moving the entire slate to be day-and-date." Again, they know the theatrical market is too big to walk away from.

Sony, Paramount, Universal and Lionsgate also still have a lot of big-screen plans for this year to be theatrical only.
It was also said the Black Widow would be "theatrical only", and we see that has changed. Market drives decisions at Studios such as Disney, and Disney doesn't see there is a large enough market right now for "theatrical only" releases.

Also Chapek has already said that the genie is already out of the bottle, so they anticipate that more releases will be both D+ and theatrical, and even some like Soul and Luca will be D+ only.
 

Archie123

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Someone can and someone will. Shang-Chi is going to be theatrical only. Disney said from the start "we're not doing what WB did by moving the entire slate to be day-and-date." Again, they know the theatrical market is too big to walk away from.

Sony, Paramount, Universal and Lionsgate also still have a lot of big-screen plans for this year to be theatrical only.

Shang-Chi is going into the theaters only for now. This might not change however Disney said the same thing about Black Widow and they obviously saw that it was not financially viable to only put it in the theaters at this time. Nothing is written in stone during this pandemic.
 

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