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walt-sent-me

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I think the expectation for WDW was that "okay, fall numbers are going to be down" (in relation to the economy) but that didn't happen, then "the holiday season is going to be down" but it hasn't been as bad as Disney thought. Now, "winter is going to be down," but who knows? Overall it seems that the worse expectations have been projected, but conditions have proven to be beyond predictions. Let's hope this trend continues. After all - American Idol opens early next year. (They were doing cast previews while we were there, by the way.) This alone should increase crowds at the studio! hehehehe.

As for tipping the maid/room staff... it is customary to do so. I think I read somewhere that $1 a day is common. This is our rule of thumb...unless it is a holiday and we are feeling generous and tip above normal. Whether the same person tends your room or not is not the question. It all works out in the end. Ya know, with the whole tipping scheme of things a few extra dollars left behind doesn't break one's bank, but it can really make a cast member's day. Unless they are like Grit Girl and should not be encouraged to maintain such confrontational behavior.:animwink:
 
Don't store your passes near Credit Cards or Phones. I love asking the guests if they do, they tell me no then they pull their pass out of their wallet, which is in their purse next to their vibrating cell. It erases the magnetic strip on the passes and will only cause much disturbances later with the Fast Pass machines and other things.

Off topic but this drives me crazy.

If that's the case then the tickets don't work. Putting a card in a wallet is the expected interaction. Disney needs to call VISA and learn the great mystery of having cards keep their magnetization. :brick:

Certainly not blaming you personally, just need to vent about that.
 

LSonDubz

New Member
I stayed at the CBR the 16th-20th and in our building there were only 2 rooms occupied on the ground floor and we parked right in front no matter what time of day or night, the resort was very dead even the mainhouse. when we checked in they only had 2 lines open and 1 concierge. other than that everything else seems normal to me.
 

goodtimes5286

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I stayed at the CBR the 16th-20th and in our building there were only 2 rooms occupied on the ground floor and we parked right in front no matter what time of day or night, the resort was very dead even the mainhouse. when we checked in they only had 2 lines open and 1 concierge. other than that everything else seems normal to me.

I think that's because of the economy. People are either doing really good or really bad, there isn't much in between. So those not doing so hot are stuffing themselves in value resorts (myself included), those still rollin in it take it to the deluxe imo.
 
You know the biggest reason our econemy is in the state its in is because the media will not shut up about how bad its going to get and will get. If we just didnt listen to the media it would pull out fast, Look at the gas prices the media shut up about it and things leveled off fast. I work for a major retailer and they just cut all our hours back from full time to below 20 hours a week for everyone. Now you think I'm able to go spend money on things when companys do that. NO, I now cant afford to spend money on things, which in turn they loose business, which means I loose hours and on the cycle goes. My point in all this is if companys would no listen to the doomsday media and hype and would just do what they have been doing and would get rid of some top level people that are bleeding cash and not doing anything we would be in a better place. Disney is doing things right in my book and thats why you havent seen the issues like we have on the outside, sure they might cut back on hours a little bit but they know that the media isnt everything and that people still love to come to disney and will continue to no matter what.


Ok thats my soapbox for the day ENJOY:)
 

jt04

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You know the biggest reason our econemy is in the state its in is because the media will not shut up about how bad its going to get and will get. If we just didnt listen to the media it would pull out fast, Look at the gas prices the media shut up about it and things leveled off fast. I work for a major retailer and they just cut all our hours back from full time to below 20 hours a week for everyone. Now you think I'm able to go spend money on things when companys do that. NO, I now cant afford to spend money on things, which in turn they loose business, which means I loose hours and on the cycle goes. My point in all this is if companys would no listen to the doomsday media and hype and would just do what they have been doing and would get rid of some top level people that are bleeding cash and not doing anything we would be in a better place. Disney is doing things right in my book and thats why you havent seen the issues like we have on the outside, sure they might cut back on hours a little bit but they know that the media isnt everything and that people still love to come to disney and will continue to no matter what.


Ok thats my soapbox for the day ENJOY:)

Not to worry, the media :hurl: will start talking about how great things are getting, ohhhh, right around Jan 20th or so :animwink:
 

tirian

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Really?? A waitress gets paid $2.50 an hour and everyone knows that she makes her money by tips. Housekeepers get paid a regular wage, so unless they do something "extra" why would you tip them?? You don't tip the person who gets you seated on a ride, they get paid the same amount. The only difference is job description they are all doing a service. As I stated I tipped the maid who made the animals because I feel she went above and beyond her job description. In my mind that warrants a tip. I would feel a tip would be warranted if I made a huge mess or my kids barfed all over the place, but other than that no tip is required. I would love to know the percentage of hotel guests who actually leave a tip. I know europeans tend to tip a little bit differently but as a whole do Americans actually leave a tip for housekeeping? I would think that the person who tips the maid is the same person who tips the Kid and the Dairy Queen. Now if that kid made you a item that no longer was available (smore galore) than a tip for you my friend, you just went well above your call of duty.:lol:

I have had terrible mousekeeping at the last three resorts I visited—Grand Floridian, Yacht Club, and Caribbean Beach. But the mousekeeping service at Pop Century, where I stayed with a few friends earlier this year, was phenomenal. We never had to call for towels, soap, shampoo, or anything else. And it cost a heck of a lot less than the Grand Flo!
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
You know the biggest reason our econemy is in the state its in is because the media will not shut up about how bad its going to get and will get. If we just didnt listen to the media it would pull out fast, Look at the gas prices the media shut up about it and things leveled off fast. I work for a major retailer and they just cut all our hours back from full time to below 20 hours a week for everyone. Now you think I'm able to go spend money on things when companys do that. NO, I now cant afford to spend money on things, which in turn they loose business, which means I loose hours and on the cycle goes. My point in all this is if companys would no listen to the doomsday media and hype and would just do what they have been doing and would get rid of some top level people that are bleeding cash and not doing anything we would be in a better place. Disney is doing things right in my book and thats why you havent seen the issues like we have on the outside, sure they might cut back on hours a little bit but they know that the media isnt everything and that people still love to come to disney and will continue to no matter what.


Ok thats my soapbox for the day ENJOY:)

Sightly Off Topic: Yeah, I don't understand why analysts are confused about low Christmas sales, because the sales themselves weren't very good in the first place. Most of the "deep" Christmas discounts in my local mall were buy one, get one 25–40% off. That was a joke.

Disney, on the other hand, is known for overpricing their merchandise, yet they are offering Guests great discounts on merchandise. The stuff has a high enough margin to keep making money for Disney, and Guests are happily buying more products. Good job, Mouse. :)
 

marcriss

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I am confused why people think they should have towel animals in their rooms. I don't think Disney promotes this idea. I have been staying at Disney for the last 30 years and only recently have started seeing or hearing about towel animals. I certainly don't expect them, if I see them I think cool, but it doesn't make or break my trip. I certainly don't think less of my maid, her job is to keep the room clean, thats it.
In the last three years I have received them in three different hotels: CBR, WL, and the Poly. My last trip at WL was the best we got new one's everyday, and I did tip the maid (which I never do), because my kids liked it. But that being said, I think it's luck of the draw type deal. If you get a maid who is creative and is looking for some extra money than they make the animals, if not your out of luck. :shrug: I look it at this way, if you complain about not getting it, you might end up ruining for those who do get it. If Disney gets enough complaints they will simply tell there maids to stop doing it. Its not worth all the complaining. Its a little perk thats cute, but it shouldn't bug you if your maid doesn't make you a towel animal. There are worse things I can think of in life.

First, this was just an observation not a complaint. Secondly, last year in the lobby of the Beach Club they had housekeeping staff in the lobby to make towel animals, much like they have balloon artists at the Dance Parties. So they do promote it. It doesn't bother me either way I tip the housekeeping if they make them or not.
 

marcriss

Member
Although it may seem the "suits" are not out, they are, except in Disney they are Business Casual. It may not be cutbacks you are seeing, but instead simply cast members calling off because of the Holiday. CMs are scheduled many many hours this time of year often times over 60 or 70 hours. I worked 80 hours in one week at easter one year. it was shifts I picked up. they have standards that they must keep certain amount of CMs on staff. only in busy times do they require more. it's when these busy times hit that it seems they are under staff, but it's simply that they cannot boost their staffing enough. It's a hard task staffing for the entertainment industry. Trends are hard to track, seasonality rarely mirrors previous years, and staffing is difficult when trying to staff attractions running at 18+ hour days. Between call-offs and Going home sick, it's almost impossible to keep the amount of CMs on staff you need to facilitate all breaks, and be able to make all guests happy.

Disney does it's best to staff the parks as well as it can. They beef up staff, they open up seasonal Attractions, place more food stands, work part time and seasonal CMs. Open up back stage walk ways. But it's simply impossible to keep up with the demand of over 70,000 guests in just one park. especially while preserving the magic and keeping it 100% safe. if an attraction is missing cast members, it's not due to cutbacks, it is due to call offs, breaks and other services that the CMs must get that we as guests simply do not want to see, or know about. But these are humans jast as you and I and they need breaks, food, and they even, yes I know this is TMI, but they even need to use the restroom once in a while. Believe me, they deserve every praise you can give them. They get yelled at for things beyond their control. For not accommodating the guests who think they are better then everyone else to wait in line, For not holding people on pedestals. THey try their best. but they can only do so much.

Don't store your passes near Credit Cards or Phones. I love asking the guests if they do, they tell me no then they pull their pass out of their wallet, which is in their purse next to their vibrating cell. It erases the magnetic strip on the passes and will only cause much disturbances later with the Fast Pass machines and other things. The frustrations over DDP have to do with people purchasing it, not reading it or doing their research or reservations. all the problems you are complaining about and "frustrations" are simply solved with some research and better planning. It's the busy season, and this is what happens. People are very smart but together we are no smarter than a heard of cattle. if you chose to move in the pack, then don't complain.

The friendliness of CMs goes back to Hours worked. I want to come to your place of work after you've been there for 9+ hours and see you smile and be curteous when you're getting yelled at for things out of your control.

If CM friendliness is going down compared to 10 years ago, think about this. 10 years ago, people where more conscious of others. TImes have changed. I was 4 years old my first trip to Disney, my brother was 2 1/2, No stroller. now we have 8 and 10 yr olds in them, and the parents when their kids have to walk. My parents when I was younger wouldn't take us near rides we where too short for, and guess what, we didn't know about them so we didn't cry cause we couldn't ride them. today parents yell at CMs about height limits placed for their children's safety. Everyone today thinks they are better than the next person. Fast pass has added more frustration, not on the guests part, but the CMs part where they have guests yelling at them from standby to let them go, yet the Fast Pass people have waited an hour or two for their ticket, and now waited another 20 in line. want it to be less frustrating? Don't complain about lines, if you don't want liines, go to the Bahamas, not an amusement park, if you don't like technology failing then go somewhere in Lancaster Pa. This is a service company that services over 70,000 guests in one day, not counting the other 3 parks. They have machines that run 20+ hours a day straight, and don't fail. CMs that work 15+ hours to make your magical vacation. and all you have to say is that your ticket didn't work, even though it may be your fault, there where lines and you're food wasn't 100% on par. then you should have asked for a manager there. not complain later when 90% of the people that go have little ot no problems.

If you go there and you have a bad attitude, you are only going to have a bad vacation. Smile, think about things before you complain, just imagine the sheer volume they are serving before you complain later. and if you complain it better fall on ears that can make it better. you don't even give them the chance to fix the problem, you take it in and you bad talk them later.

So those aren't cutbacks you see, but Simply a day in a Business where they can't predict demand 100%.

Personally I love the days they predict 60,000 and only about 40,000 show up. those are the best:-)


You sound a lot like the unfriendly cast members I encountered. I should have stated earlier that my observations are compared to the same basic week the last 4 years. Being a down week generally has improved the experience, not lessened.

I feel for the CM's who have to deal with the public, I wouldn't want to do it.

In the 36 years that I've been going to the Disney parks I haven't seen only 1 person operating a ride ever, until this trip. And this time it was several times. Maybe everyone had too much to drink at the same times and had to all have a restroom break together.

As far as the tickets are concerned, we were not the only ones who had problems. And as another person posted, if Disney knows that the things that people carry in their wallets will render the tickets useless then put the legendary imagineering to work and get something better. The APs work just fine.

I don't mind waiting on lines, but when you have 25 minutes lines for a ride that could have a fastpass it's frustrating. You get your park passes for nothing. Check out how much it costs.

I did speak with the manager at the 50s Prime Time Diner and he was wonderful and I let Guest Relations know that. Just as I have for every Cast Member who has been outstanding.

We plan our trips very carefully. We don't fuss or complain, nor do we think we are better than everyone else. You assume that we are the people that you disdain everyday. However, we are the quieter ones who just observe. Sharing my observations seems to have touched a nerve with you.

I am fully aware of what Disney management looks like, having worked for the company myself. I'm also well aware that Cast Members are hired in large part on their personality. This is, as you pointed out, a service industry. The prices at Disney are exceedingly high, something that many cast members seem ignorant of. This is why people expect excellent service.

I do take my complaints to people who have the power to fix things. Perhaps you should talk to your supervisors about your complaints about your working environment. Do you think that they would agree that guests should expect lesser service later in the day when the CMs are tired or cranky? My bosses never thought my performance could vary by my personal attitude at a particular time.

We had a great vacation. As I stated before these were our experiences. If you choose to attack them, that's your choice. Just keep in mind that not all of us are mean or stupid. That's an ignorant assumption.
 
Not to worry, the media :hurl: will start talking about how great things are getting, ohhhh, right around Jan 20th or so :animwink:

ROFLOL, Yeah a buddy of mine and I were talking about that very thing, it will all change in just a month and everything in the world will be awesome come the end of Jan.:ROFLOL::shrug::hammer:
 

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