Communicore
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joejccva71
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Goofyernmost
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Well, we won't let a little thing like a law stand in the way of our actions shall we! ADA governs that we as private citizens do not have the right to ask why a person needs a device to help them through life. Like it or not, it isn't the same as the government requiring proof before Handicap Permits are passed out. That law is to prevent people that don't need it (that doesn't work either) from taking up limited parking spaces depriving a person with a legitimate need from having access. In a theme park you are not in anyway hindered by someone using a scooter and as someone that has had to use one I can tell you that if you think that having to maneuver one of those through crowds is a heap of fun and looking at people's butts all day long makes for a relaxing adventure and paying a goodly chunk of change to rent one just adds a bounce to the theme park experience, then you should try one someday and see what a thrill it is.
When it comes to comprehension, what you did say was that you knew that a group of people were abusing the system. How you know that is where you claim that you know. Therefore sarcasm hit the screen because of the foolishness of that and then the comments that you are so good at knowing people are scamming that it angers you when you see it, even though you are now saying that you don't know if they are or not, but, maybe you just sounded pretty tough letting those "cheaters" know that you are wise to them. It wasn't you that was saying that you should screen them it was the rest of us reacting to the ridiculousness of your statement and saying if you are that good at making that judgment then perhaps you should guard the fortress with your magical diagnostic ability and stop the abuse.
I went through all that all the while knowing that you are not going to "get it". But, now it has been said, I will not be attempting to answer it again.
jloucks
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Oh I get it. The core issue is playing out In the peripheral dialgue. You see no problem with anybody on a scooter for any reason. You have to, otherwise you are forced to explore the grey area with me. Can't have that! Not hard to get. Everything you say is based on that concept.
It doesn't help my case that technically, there is no such thing as scooter abuse/scamming, since anybody can in fact rent a scooter. ....which is my problem for many reasons. And around and around we go.
The hilarious part of this whole thread is it is about unpopular opinions. What did people think was coming? Popular opinions? Pfft.
Dreaming of Disney World
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What IS the problem with anybody on a scooter for any reason? How does it affect you?? It doesn't. Stop being so judgmental and leave people alone. Same thing goes for those of you who dislike strollers.
*Gets ready to dodge tomatoes/bricks*
1. I think the Frozen ride is stupid
2. Whole IP-based lands (with the exception of Pandora and Carsland) are stupid
3. The yeti is just as impressive broken (The thing's still massive and terrifying)
4. Jungle Cruise is boring
5. The only good IP ride is Splash
1. I think the Frozen ride is stupid
2. Whole IP-based lands (with the exception of Pandora and Carsland) are stupid
3. The yeti is just as impressive broken (The thing's still massive and terrifying)
4. Jungle Cruise is boring
5. The only good IP ride is Splash
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LauraRose
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Peter pans flight is boring and I wouldn’t wait longer than 20 minutes, in fact I skip most times
I find haunted mansion boring (I always get stick for this)
I couldn’t give less of a toss about a redhead on POC or any other changes Disney make, people moan nothing’s being changed, people moan when things are changed.
Jungle cruise is awful
I like it’s a small world
And for the record I don’t care who uses a stroller or scooter. If someone feels like that’ll make their trip easier and more enjoyable that’s their decision. They paid money to be there just like you and everyone else, I don’t think anyone has a place to judge who needs one and who doesn’t. I have Lyme disease and you wouldn’t ever know it by looking at me but every day is a struggle. I can walk, heck I can do dance but I’ll be ruined for a long time afterwards. Ive found ways around it like lots of rest and not carrying anything with much weight in it. I’ve never used a scooter and won’t be on my trip next week nor do I ever plan to. My point is so many people have invisible illnesses and I know people are quick to judge someone If they are overweight. But many people have illnesses you can’t visibly see and I don’t think anyone should be questioned or judged by someone who isn’t a medical professional.
Before I get any abuse I completely understand the nature of this thread but I think some of these ‘unpopular opinions’ are worded terribly and have came across downright rude and narrow minded.
I find haunted mansion boring (I always get stick for this)
I couldn’t give less of a toss about a redhead on POC or any other changes Disney make, people moan nothing’s being changed, people moan when things are changed.
Jungle cruise is awful
I like it’s a small world
And for the record I don’t care who uses a stroller or scooter. If someone feels like that’ll make their trip easier and more enjoyable that’s their decision. They paid money to be there just like you and everyone else, I don’t think anyone has a place to judge who needs one and who doesn’t. I have Lyme disease and you wouldn’t ever know it by looking at me but every day is a struggle. I can walk, heck I can do dance but I’ll be ruined for a long time afterwards. Ive found ways around it like lots of rest and not carrying anything with much weight in it. I’ve never used a scooter and won’t be on my trip next week nor do I ever plan to. My point is so many people have invisible illnesses and I know people are quick to judge someone If they are overweight. But many people have illnesses you can’t visibly see and I don’t think anyone should be questioned or judged by someone who isn’t a medical professional.
Before I get any abuse I completely understand the nature of this thread but I think some of these ‘unpopular opinions’ are worded terribly and have came across downright rude and narrow minded.
SyracuseDisneyFan
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I love Small World.
jloucks
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This thread is really a continuation of multiple other threads. The "unpopular opinion" on scooters goes way back.
There are many good reasons that motor vehicles do not belong on crowded sidewalks. I'm not going to go back into it, but I'm sure you can think of some reasons.
Strollers are far different from scooters, for obvious reasons.
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
If the queue is well-themed, sure.
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
I thoroughly enjoy Under the Sea - Journey of The Little Mermaid and Voyage of The Little Mermaid.
Aha. Unpopular Opinion Is Unpopular.
Here's my problem with scooters and mega-strollers -- they each take up more space than one person would, and each have been implicated in safety and courtesy issues. With the state of crowding in today's guest environment, I don't think either one is safe or appropriate.
There's nothing an ECV does for a person's mobility issues that can't be solved by using a wheelchair instead. Yes, a wheelchair takes up about one-and-a-half person spaces, but I think it's a justifiable trade-off so people with mobility issues can enjoy the parks. And when's the last time you heard of an inexperienced wheelchair operator running someone down or over?
Mega-strollers are almost as bad at wasting space. That's why I recommended limiting stroller kids to 40" or less in an easily foldable, lightweight umbrella stroller. They're easier to maneuver and don't make as big a dent should some heat-crazed, claustrophobic stroller mom decide to start using one as an ankle battering ram. If your child over 40" can't handle walking a whole day in the parks, consider a mid-day break back at the resort.
Imagine WDW without mega-strollers or ECVs... once again, MK would look like a family theme park instead of a sale at Babys-R-Us or Senior Dinner Special at the Aventura Mall.
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OneofThree
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Well yes, it just has to be! When all else fails, make something up.
I've also got news for all the "don't judge" proselytes. Everyone makes judgments about everything cuz, science of human nature. Obviously there's function to it then. I can help! It's called society. Like, when you do something stupid and it negatively affects everyone else around you (some people make this a hobby, or career). At this point, expect to be called out, just do, because no one has license to pass their garbage off on anyone else. In the case of scooters, the negative impact upon others is obvious and is due to the inordinate number of non-handicap people abusing them. People seem to do a terrible job of self-regulating these days, and often need a
little. . . nudge in the right direction. Otherwise, you'd have parking lots with 30% of spaces designated handicap, all of them full of people who aren't, without a single empty one for the 85-year old war veteran with Parkinson's and one good leg. I didn't make it that way, it's just inescapable reality.
"It seems many in American society want to grant the stupids with impunity to be stupid, as if being stupid is a form of artistic expression."
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Goofyernmost
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I'm afraid that a motorized wheelchair takes up as much room as a scooter. If you are talking about a regular wheelchair I guess it is a better option as long as you have a relative that you hate enough to make them push you miles a day up and down ramps. Been there done that... it isn't as easy as it sounds and I was pushing around a man that only weighed 85 pounds due to Cerebral Palsy. Scooter really are not an issue for people with no problems but they are a godsend for those that have no other way to enjoy the parks. I would be embarrassed to stand there, physically able and criticize other people that we don't even know for using modern technology in order to have a life worth living.
Willmark
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Dislike or like of a scooter/stroller and the feelings in ellicits isn’t the issue per se, it’s a symptom. IMO of course, YMMV.
Disney packs in the cattle at its parks and people are surprised there is mooing?
Then add in a time and place where the culture is very antagonistic (from both sides I might add) and the cattle moo louder.
I knew I should have been a cowboy!
To help further clarify, if the cost and time investment of going to disney weren’t as high I doubt we see the reactions this topic sparks.
Disney packs in the cattle at its parks and people are surprised there is mooing?
Then add in a time and place where the culture is very antagonistic (from both sides I might add) and the cattle moo louder.
I knew I should have been a cowboy!
To help further clarify, if the cost and time investment of going to disney weren’t as high I doubt we see the reactions this topic sparks.
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Precisely! Besides the effort it takes to push the wheelchair, there is the issue of safety, in many cases the person pushing cannot properly see the foot rests at the front of the wheelchair and will end up hitting people and causing more problems than a scooter would, especially if the person pushing isn't used to pushing a wheelchair in crowds.
joejccva71
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Sounds like many of you should go to Universal if you're looking for thrill rides. WDW isn't about that as much.
SteveAZee
Premium Member
Hmm... much like the gun debate, I wonder (regarding strollers and scooters) how much is too much? What about a stroller that is both double wide and doubly long? A scooter that can go as fast as a person can run, or one with steel bumpers (ouch), or loud horns to clear traffic out of their way? It seems like the concern and fuss comes down to how much strollers/scooters impact (literally and otherwise) others in the park, especially when it's crowded, which is now most of the time. There also seems to be a concern (like guns) with who's operating the thing and how much experience/training they have... and how bad things can happen either accidentally or (on rare occasions) on purpose.
Perhaps if Disney defined a framework for 'assistance' vehicles that are allowed or not allowed in the park (see 'toy guns', 'selfie sticks', etc) that would help things considerably.
Perhaps if Disney defined a framework for 'assistance' vehicles that are allowed or not allowed in the park (see 'toy guns', 'selfie sticks', etc) that would help things considerably.