Universal will add 2 hotels

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Universal will add 2 hotels

By Robert Johnson | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted July 15, 2002


Loew's Hotels will soon start planning its fourth and fifth hotels at Universal Orlando, Jonathan Tisch, the New York lodging chain's chairman and chief executive officer, said last week.

Tisch said zoning for the two new properties on Universal land already has been approved.

"We're going to sit down with Universal in a few weeks and start planning what they will look like," he said.

Loew's opened its third hotel at Universal, Royal Pacific Resort, last month. Tisch said the 1,000-room hotel has been enjoying occupancy rates of 90 percent or more. "It's way ahead of what we expected," he said.

Loew's other two Universal hotels are Hard Rock Hotel and Portofino Bay. The Royal Pacific is the largest in Loew's 15-hotel chain.

How soon could Loew's next two hotels at Universal be built? Tisch declined to predict the timing but said: "We're optimistic. The tourism economy is recovering fast."

What's more, Loew's is in good financial shape to expand. "We have a lot of capital right now."

River Country won't reopen soon

Although Walt Disney World's two water parks have been mobbed this summer, officials say the recently closed River Country swimming hole won't reopen this year.

"River Country will remain closed at least through 2002," said Rena Callahan, a Disney World spokeswoman.

Opened in 1976, River Country closed in April after falling in popularity behind Disney's newer water parks, Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon, which opened in 1995 and 1988, respectively.

Still, Callahan acknowledged that the new parks are operating at capacity and turning away guests on some days. In fact, during the July 4 weekend, some guests at both parks had to park their cars in grassy lots near the paved lots. By midday Sunday, July 7, Blizzard Beach had closed its lot and guests were being directed to Typhoon Lagoon a few miles away -- where the parking lots were full, too.

Poster advertisements at Typhoon and Blizzard still tout River Country as Disney's third water park, but Callahan said they shouldn't be interpreted as a hint that it will reopen any time soon.

River Country, touted as Disney's old-fashioned water park, re-created the nostalgia of the all-American swimming place at Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campground near Disney's Bay Lake.

A Disney official said in April that River Country would reopen if "there's enough guest demand." How much demand would that be? Callahan couldn't say, but apparently it isn't enough that the two newer parks are frequently overflowing with customers.

Blizzard Beach, with attendance of 1.8 million in 2001, and Typhoon Lagoon, with 1.6 million, were ranked No. 1 and No. 2 among the world's top water parks last year, according to estimates by Amusement Business magazine. River Country didn't make the top 15.

Survey says. . . .

One out of five Americans who don't live in Florida say they're more likely to vacation here than they were a year ago, according to a survey by Visit Florida, the state's Tallahassee-based tourism agency.
 

Figment1986

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Woa, 2 new resorts for Universal, could this mean that soon they will stop offereing FOTL privelage to people staying at their Resorts? I hope not, I still havn't get to take advantage of it. Thanks for the info MKTiggerman,

I dont think disney would reopen their Rivercountry water park thing, They prolly will just turn it into a pool for the For Wilderness places.
 

pheneix

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>>>Woa, 2 new resorts for Universal, could this mean that soon they will stop offereing FOTL privelage to people staying at their Resorts?<<<

If they want to keep the system from being overloaded and still offer FOTL, they may have to rotate the privilages so that on certain days, certain resorts get FOTL (on Saturday, Royal Pacific and the Hard Rock have FOTL, on Sunday, Portofino and &^%$&^%$ get FOTL). FOTL is still a major playing card for them to get peeps to stay there, and they would be insane to let such a perk be discontinued (then again, with UO's marketing staff, who the hell knows).

This is great news. If Universal/Loews feel that there is justifiable cause to begin construction on two new resorts, then Vivendi Universal (mostly Vivendi) will be able to justify pouring money into "Boffo Socko" at IOA.

>>>Although Walt Disney World's two water parks have been mobbed this summer, officials say the recently closed River Country swimming hole won't reopen this year.<<<

Damn, the suits are Burbank are dumber than I thought...
 

Rider

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I know I wouldn't stay at Universal hotels if I couldn't get FOTL.

Maybe they should just build new parks to spread out the crowd :D.
 

adr315

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Originally posted by pheneix
>>>Woa, 2 new resorts for Universal, could this mean that soon they will stop offereing FOTL privelage to people staying at their Resorts?<<<

If they want to keep the system from being overloaded and still offer FOTL, they may have to rotate the privilages so that on certain days, certain resorts get FOTL (on Saturday, Royal Pacific and the Hard Rock have FOTL, on Sunday, Portofino and &^%$&^%$ get FOTL). FOTL is still a major playing card for them to get peeps to stay there, and they would be insane to let such a perk be discontinued (then again, with UO's marketing staff, who the hell knows).

This is great news. If Universal/Loews feel that there is justifiable cause to begin construction on two new resorts, then Vivendi Universal (mostly Vivendi) will be able to justify pouring money into "Boffo Socko" at IOA.

>>>Although Walt Disney World's two water parks have been mobbed this summer, officials say the recently closed River Country swimming hole won't reopen this year.<<<

Damn, the suits are Burbank are dumber than I thought...


Excuse my ignorance, but ive heard this "Buffo Sucko" term thrown around recently in regards to Universal. is it a reference to IoA's new attraction? please help........
 

pheneix

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>>>Excuse my ignorance, but ive heard this "Buffo Sucko" term thrown around recently in regards to Universal. is it a reference to IoA's new attraction?<<<

Yes. Earlier this year, Bob Gault was in an interview with the Orlando Sentinel, and when he was giving hints to what they will be adding next year, he said, "we have a HUGE new attraction planned for IOA next year. I can't tell you what it is, but it will be boffo and socko." I just find the term funny (since I have no idea what in the hell it means), so I use that instead of "big new E-ticket."
 

WDWFREAK53

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Originally posted by pheneix
>>>Excuse my ignorance, but ive heard this "Buffo Sucko" term thrown around recently in regards to Universal. is it a reference to IoA's new attraction?<<<

Yes. Earlier this year, Bob Gault was in an interview with the Orlando Sentinel, and when he was giving hints to what they will be adding next year, he said, "we have a HUGE new attraction planned for IOA next year. I can't tell you what it is, but it will be boffo and socko." I just find the term funny (since I have no idea what in the hell it means), so I use that instead of "big new E-ticket."

Does anyone know...or has anybody heard what it "may" be?
 

pheneix

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Does anyone here remember that fight that Mankind was in at Universal Studios (on TV, of course)? I remember seeing him getting rammed into the BTTF sign.
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by pheneix
Does anyone here remember that fight that Mankind was in at Universal Studios (on TV, of course)? I remember seeing him getting rammed into the BTTF sign.

Being an advid WWE fan for some 5 years now... YES, I remember. I told my wife, "How Cool. Now I get to watch Wrestling and see one of my favorite parks at the same time". There was a person dressed up like Mankind going around the parks. I believe the real Mankind got there at BTTF and started beating up the fake. I may be mixing all this up somehow.

There was also an Undertaker Haunted Maze one year that had you walk under a steel cage with a freaky Mankind above you hitting the cage with a steel chair. Universal has unofficially tied theirself with WWE I think.
 

WDWFREAK53

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Originally posted by Disney4648
I dont think Universal will offer FOTL anymore.:(

I agree with pheneix...that is ONE thing that Universal has over WDW...They will offer FOTL on different days for different resorts.
 

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