Yep. I tell people if you’re not reading at least three news sources you probably aren’t getting the entire story.
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Universal Puts Disney's Reopening on Defensive
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Yep. I tell people if you’re not reading at least three news sources you probably aren’t getting the entire story.
Did you read the first post? It literally said the plan was to open aug 31st. Now you may not believe the poster, but after 48 pages you’re still here.
lazyboy97o
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That was the best guess. It was never a set date. The plan has always been to reopen as soon as it was considered safe to do so.
mhaftman7
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I’m not gonna lie. I’ve got a horse in this race. Bounce back gave us a REALLY good deal to stay at the Wilderness Lodge this year and it’s kind of frustrating not knowing if it’s going to happen or not. I understand holding out as long as possible to let people know, but...ugh. At this point, it is what it is and I’ll have to have that conversation with Disney Destinations when the time comes. Fingers crossed.
It was A plan, and maybe their most likely plan, but not their only plan. They had plans for other scenarios, such as opening in June or opening after September. Other reputable insiders have said as much.
Animaniac93-98
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What about the plan to reopen just for me, so I don't have to wait in line for any rides? Is that still on the table? 
Miss Bella
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Suit yourself, but you were the one saying no one's talks about the real facts. There are plenty of news outlets that share your sentiments. I think you're not looking in the right places. Anyway I do agree with most of what you say especially about Disney. I'm not as irritated with the parks as I am with their cruise line.
I’ve gotten to the point where I read 3-4 sources so I can filter out the facts and the fluff. Otherwise you’re only getting one network’s bias and you can’t discern what’s real and what’s institutional bias of the network.
I feel for all the CM’a out of work and for all the people who have had vacations ruined.
What’s going on with the cruise line?
A bus drivers cousin told me it was. Buy your plane ticket, rent your car, and book a non Disney hotel room. If they decide to cancel they’ll give you 2 hours notice.
Miss Bella
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Media outlets and politics aside......I do feel for the CM's and ruined vacations, but Disney is not the end all be all. There are other places to spend your vacation dollars. The only thing tying me to Disney right now is that I have tickets I need to use otherwise it wouldn't even be on my radar.
VaderTron
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So let me get this straight @The Mom ... My jesting post in response to the joking statement of another poster who said "American's are delicate flowers" (regarding complaints of masks being too hot) of a cartoon depicting a big fat 'Murican on his ECV with oxygen tank and mounted machine gun with a caption saying "Until they morph into someone screaming about "Muh riiiiiights!!!" is a "political post" but something like this one that calls out a specific, real-life politician and slams their actual political actions is not??? Was it because the cartoon I posted had a flag in it? I just don't get it. I mean...if my post was political then we may as well slice and dice the rest of this forum because every other post in every thread falls in line with that definition of "political posts". That level of definition makes EVERYTHING you say political, because you are mistaking "societal" and "cultural" for "political". If you just don't like something and want to take it down at least own up to it rather than call it a political post.
SoFloMagic
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Y'all are wild. You all want a date from Disney. But cases aren't going down in Florida.
Maybe they haven't announced anything because they want to be sure they get this right so they don't have to close again.
Anyone in their right mind would be more concerned about the safety of themselves, their family, and their community than this.
If you can't deal with uncertainty, travel in 2020 isn't for you.
Maybe they haven't announced anything because they want to be sure they get this right so they don't have to close again.
Anyone in their right mind would be more concerned about the safety of themselves, their family, and their community than this.
If you can't deal with uncertainty, travel in 2020 isn't for you.
Miss Bella
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They don't communicate with their customers the way other cruise lines do. At least Royal and Carnival have stated they plan to restart in August if the CDC does not extend the ban. Carnival has sent out emails with ships and embarkation ports it plans on resuming with. They have cancelled cruises well in advance. They pulled out of Europe and Alaska over a month ago. I haven't heard anything from DCL. They pull cruises off the website but don't cancel them. The continue allowing people to book cruises in June and July even with the CDC ban in place until the end of July.
I've been on one Royal cruise, one Carnival cruise and 25 DCL cruises. I get update emails from Carnival weekly, but nothing from Disney. I was supposed to cruise on DCL in Europe this Summer. I changed the cruise to next year. The cruises have been pulled from the website, but people in my Facebook group that are still booked haven't heard anything.
peter11435
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They have cancelled all cruises through the end of July.
Miss Bella
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That was just done a couple of weeks ago. They still haven’t cancelled Europe or Alaska. Yet it’s not on the website. DCL is a very small player in the cruise industry so it’s partly understandable.
Mem11
Active Member
Nah, Somebody probably reported your post as inappropriate(not necessarily political) and the moderators agreed and nobody reported the one you quoted. The Moderators can't read every post in every thread.
If it'll make you feel better, report the offending post and I'm sure you will be richly rewarded. By the way, it's probably not a good idea to question the moderators... I think @The Mom does a great job
Disney can't tell you when they'll be closed and when they'll be open precisely because they don't know. An opening date depends on factors outside their control.
I'm in the hot spot of New Jersey. I know several people who had a wedding scheduled for April. They moved it to June. They're moving it again to September or next year.
Their reception venues and churches aren't being non-communicative with them withholding a plan of when to reopen because they don't know when they'll be allowed to reopen.
It is eminently unreasonably to expect Disney to know when they'll be reopening until they know they are allowed to open and they can do it to the level of safety that they and their employees are comfortable with. And that there isn't a current or likely spike in hospitalizations that will have them closing it all down all over again.
Just like those churches and venues accepted new dates and reservations in the hope that they'll be open, so is Disney. It is absolutely commonplace in the service industry to have business lined up for whenever you might be able to run your business.
That Disney had a very definite date in late August is not the case. Several of our most trusted insiders have said over and over again that Disney has options and that was just one of them. They reserve for themselves the right to open earlier or later than a soft internal target.
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GladToBeHear
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So I've read through the last 10 pages since my last posts (a lot of interesting discussion going on, by the way) and I keep seeing comments about Disney waiting until things are "safe" or "appropriate to open" or "waiting until the timing is right", etc. And I'm still curious as to what milestone/metric Disney is waiting for to set some dates. And why Universal isn't. Is it ever truly going to be "safe" to open? I posed that maybe it might have more to do with a PR/image decision. Or is it more a matter of the internal workings of getting all the pieces in place to reopen? I'm honestly curious as to what they're waiting for. The virus will still be here in 1, 3, 6, 12 months and beyond. Can't be a vaccine. That's most likely years away (and may never happen). And we don't know if/when there will be effectice treatment. Have they just been waiting for cases to go down locally in FL?