lazyboy97o
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Why are people assuming a one year delay from late 2023 is somehow more than 3 ½ years from now? The park is designed and permitted. Three years to build is a good time frame.
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025
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OG Runner
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We would all like to see it earlier, but given the recent projects from both Disney & Universal, I really think the 4 to 5 years
is more realistic. How long did it take just to do the interior work for the Bourne show? How long is it taking Disney with
Ratatouille, Guardians, Tron, etc. ? Like I said we would all be happy to see it sooner, but I don't think it is realistic.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
All of the projects you name were announced very early in the design process. That part and the several years they represent is done.
OG Runner
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Well, like I said we would all like to see it earlier. How long did it take to build "Marioland" in Japan?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
I didn’t say anything about earlier. Vertical construction was set to start late summer/early fall 2020 for a late 2023 opening. Why is it assumed that starting 2021 makes 2024 unreachable?
OG Runner
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I know you didn't say anything about earlier. I did. My comments are totally based on the timetables we have been seeing.
I understand the original plan was for three to three and a half years, but looking at recent projects at both parks I think that
was ambitious and and a little unrealistic. Considering the location is an empty lot at the moment, if it is completed by 2025,
I would do a happy dance.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Do you think the current cost of construction materials will have an impact on their timeline?
Ratatouille & Tron are both clones, so the brunt of the design work for those was already done long before they were announced. Disney is just being slow & using Covid as an excuse. That being said, the fact that Universal has been finishing up their own previous projects but still don't seem to have resumed proper construction on Epic Universe is worrying.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It could if Universal isn’t willing to pay to stay ahead of others. They also have a scale that can help.
Having a set design intent only means being able to skip a small portion of the work that goes into developing usable construction documents. The many parts of Universal Studios Beijing that are clones took a similar amount of time to design and document, including Transformers.
Epic Universe never started vertical construction which was the next big milestone. They have a time limit on how long they can wait since they have the permits but a new code is now in force.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
that will 100% be determined by Disney’s customers...
which is why the chance is very low
trr1
Well-Known Member
wasn't most of the infrastructure already completed at EU?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The work that had been done was mostly eary, general site work. The plans that have been published are what would be used really get things in place.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
Basically you can look at a year of the plan being completed, like any project not all or most but a year's worth. They raised the grade a bunch and not many sites would have had to move all that dirt.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Building a roller coaster is nowhere near the same as turning an empty lot into a park. Velocicoaster had existing utilities and storm water management it could utilize. Even then, construction doesn’t just happen and it is done when it is done. There is a planned schedule. Construction of the park itself was supposed to be about three years.
A lot of the work last year was just pure grading, legions of dumptrucks provining dirt to level off the ground. Last month was a lot of infrastructure work, and a few roads. Fencing and other land perimeter work. When things go vertical, it will move very fast since a great deal of the infrastructure is happening right now.
JoeCamel
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Depends on what they build, the budget buzzards are always circling.
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OG Runner
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I agree. You could also look at the availability of construction materials, the increased cost of materials, and even the availability of
laborers since the original plans were put together. The most we can do is wait, watch, hope & pray and decide how they could have
done it better or worse right up until we are walking through the new park.
The Grand Inquisitor
Well-Known Member
I really hope nothing gets cut especially Monsters. If something has to get cut maybe cut the harry potter show or 2nd ride.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Seconded. The Monsters land is the one I am most excited about.