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[Rich Brownn]

Yes but in my mind it doesn’t obviously compare to anything Disney has built or will build.

Except it has more animatronics than Disney puts in theirs nowadays (plus I feel Victoria's movements were way more realistic than Tiana's flailing about - lol)

 

[Tom Morrow]

No one. Absolutely no one. Myself included, is saying that pregnancy is not a condition.

You lose comprehension and context points. You also get demerits for a blatant Straw Man.

The sign in question doesn't even use the word "pregnancy."

It called "Pregnant Mothers" a condition. Which is grammatically awful.

Yes, "Pregnant Mothers" are "pregnant." And "pregnancy" is a condition. I've said as much many times over when the likes of you try to leap to Uni's defense and make it sound like I'm not calling pregnancy a 'condition.'

So, take your bad faith rhetoric elsewhere.





Would this be a bad time to point out that the phrase "Pregnant Mothers" is a redundancy? If you're pregnant, you're a mother. Unless fathers are now carrying fetuses.

I think this is the first time I’ve seen you choose a hill to die on over something so inconsequential. The verbiage on the signs is passed through several layers of legal and PR scrutiny. It’s the same basic language all parks use on their signs. The typos will get fixed.

When we nitpick things like this, it helps to bury legitimate criticisms - which Epic has several legitimate issues - and tells the companies that they don’t have to “course-correct” because “people complain about literally everything”.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Except it has more animatronics than Disney puts in theirs nowadays (plus I feel Victoria's movements were way more realistic than Tiana's flailing about - lol)

It’s the same type of movements, but it makes sense for Victoria to be animated and dramatic with her movements in that moment, whereas it doesn’t for Tiana, so Tiana just feels like they’re over-indulging to demonstrate their tech.

 

[celluloid]

No one. Absolutely no one. Myself included, is saying that pregnancy is not a condition.

You lose comprehension and context points. You also get demerits for a blatant Straw Man.

The sign in question doesn't even use the word "pregnancy."

It called "Pregnant Mothers" a condition. Which is grammatically awful.

Yes, "Pregnant Mothers" are "pregnant." And "pregnancy" is a condition. I've said as much many times over when the likes of you try to leap to Uni's defense and make it sound like I'm not calling pregnancy a 'condition.'

So, take your bad faith rhetoric elsewhere.





Would this be a bad time to point out that the phrase "Pregnant Mothers" is a redundancy? If you're pregnant, you're a mother. Unless fathers are now carrying fetuses.

Being an expantanct mother or pregnant is a physicalogical condition of which someone is recommended not to ride.
You gotta take a step back dude.


And redundancy is a lot of what legal and safety is. Particularly when addressing as many languages while limited on publishing space. Moderation in all things. Go touch grass between turning pages of tje dictionary.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Frankly this has to be one of the more ridiculous complaints I've seen yet. And no, "pregnant mothers" is not redundant, because you needn't be currently pregnant to be a mother. This should really go without saying.

Furthermore, pregnant mothers fall into that class of high risk people who should have enough common sense to not get on a ride regardless of whether or not a warning sign even mentions them, much less requiring a big linguistical debate.

Being an expantanct mother or pregnant is a physicalogical condition of which someone is recommended not to ride.
You gotta take a step back dude.


And redundancy is a lot of what legal and safety is. Particularly when addressing as many languages while limited on publishing space. Moderation in all things. Go touch grass between turning pages of tje dictionary.

Please provide the quote from my post in which I claimed that pregnant women should get on the ride.

If you love that Straw Man so much, you should marry him.

 

[celluloid]

Please provide the quote from my post in which I claimed that pregnant women should get on the ride.

If you love that Straw Man so much, you should marry him.

It was to explain why it is fine written the way it is. Expectant or Pregnant Mothers was well explained to you by now that it was fine under the section it is in.
If you are claiming Straw Man so often on multiple posters posts, that many have told you how trivial it is, maybe, just maybe you don't even know what your point that does not matter is.

Dying on a hill of beans.

 

[Agent H]

I think this is the first time I’ve seen you choose a hill to die on over something so
Inconsequential. The verbiage on the signs is passed through several layers of legal and PR scrutiny. It’s the same basic language all parks use on their signs. The typos will get fixed.

When we nitpick things like this, it helps to bury legitimate criticisms - which Epic has several legitimate issues - and tells the companies that they don’t have to “course-correct” because “people complain about literally everything”.

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my fourth biggest criticism.

 

[celluloid]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

Well then, if that is the fourth biggest criticism in a brand new theme park, you are only PUNishing yourself from enjoying a great theme park and shows just how few criticisms there are.

Maybe you would enjoy Ecpot better or Space Mt at Magic Kingdom, it is out of this WORD!

 

[Agent H]

Well then, if that is the fourth biggest criticism in a brand new theme park, you are only PUNishing yourself from enjoying a great theme park and shows just how few criticisms there are.

Maybe you would enjoy Ecpot better or Space Mt at Magic Kingdom, it is out of this WORD!

 

[Tom Morrow]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

With the safety warning signs I think its more likely that they were rushed out for previews en masse so some mistakes got through. Remember that there was like, what, 5 days of warning before suddenly they were letting team members enter for previews?

 

[MisterPenguin]

It was to explain why it is fine written the way it is. Expectant or Pregnant Mothers was well explained to you by now that it was fine under the section it is in.
If you are claiming Straw Man so often on multiple posters posts, that many have told you how trivial it is, maybe, just maybe you don't even know what your point that does not matter is.

Dying on a hill of beans.

Still waiting for you quote where I said anyone who is pregnant or Pregnant Mothers should actually ride the ride.

We all see what you're doing.

 

[JT3000]

Please provide the quote from my post in which I claimed that pregnant women should get on the ride.

If you love that Straw Man so much, you should marry him.

Show me where I supposedly said you claimed pregnant women should ride. You quoted my post but this hardly qualifies as a response to what I actually said.

 

[celluloid]

Still waiting for you quote where I said anyone who is pregnant or Pregnant Mothers should actually ride the ride.

We all see what you're doing.

You will be waiting.

You and whoever else is in your pocket with the odd "We".
Spelling aside, the signage is correct.

Both of "you" should reread the situation like you should have reread the signage to see outside of spelling, it is correct.

 

[JT3000]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

Yes, we can see that you've sincerely put forth your criticism of bad grammar.

 

[lazyboy97o]

With the safety warning signs I think its more likely that they were rushed out for previews en masse so some mistakes got through. Remember that there was like, what, 5 days of warning before suddenly they were letting team members enter for previews?

You understand that would be worse, right?

Warning signs are not something that is rushed.

 

[celluloid]

The signs were not rushed anymore than others. Clerical level non egregious errors that will be fixed via in priority and in some cases, not going to likely fixed for awhile as not critical.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

It’s the same type of movements, but it makes sense for Victoria to be animated and dramatic with her movements in that moment, whereas it doesn’t for Tiana, so Tiana just feels like they’re over-indulging to demonstrate their tech.

Same type of movements? The tech Universal is using seems to be a lot more controlled and nuanced. I don't recall where I saw the breakdown, but I remember reading interesting commentary about how realistic the movement is for the Phantom and for Frankenstein's Monster in the tesla coil scene. They were used as examples for storytelling through realistic body language, yet when I look at Tiana's, they're moving just for the sake of movement. Essentially, yeah I'm agreeing with your point, but then I'm following up with the question: Do you have knowledge of the different technology behind the figures?

Are the Tiana's animatronics just simply not programmed to be better, or is it a limitation in the technology that Disney is using? Because as far as I can tell, Universal has them beat, even if the differences are a lot more nuanced.

 

[celluloid]

Tiana's figures were crafted with all they cared for her to do, as were the Monsters in Unchained.
One is superior in animation and range.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Same type of movements? The tech Universal is using seems to be a lot more controlled and nuanced. I don't recall where I saw the breakdown, but I remember reading interesting commentary about how realistic the movement is for the Phantom and for Frankenstein's Monster in the tesla coil scene. They were used as examples for storytelling through realistic body language, yet when I look at Tiana's, they're moving just for the sake of movement. Essentially, yeah I'm agreeing with your point, but then I'm following up with the question: Do you have knowledge of the different technology behind the figures?

Are the Tiana's animatronics just simply not programmed to be better, or is it a limitation in the technology that Disney is using? Because as far as I can tell, Universal has them beat, even if the differences are a lot more nuanced.

No, I have no significant knowledge of how they work or are programmed. I was just stating that it makes sense for Victoria to dramatically flail around in her pre-show, but not Tiana in any of her scenes in the ride.

Also, the more impressive animatronic in that scene is her new "Frank". If you watch closely, he does a relatively subtle nonverbal reaction to everything Victoria says, such a smirk and patting his chest when she says he is better than the original.

 

[Agent H]

Yes, we can see that you've sincerely put forth your criticism of bad grammar.

Please point to the bad grammar in my post and I will happily correct it