Universal bans hundreds of underage drinkers during Horror Nights

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Universal bans hundreds of underage drinkers during Horror Nights
Scott Powers | Sentinel Staff Writer
October 23, 2008

Not one sip.

That's Universal Orlando's policy toward underage drinking -- a zero-tolerance stance that is getting hundreds of people banned from the resort this month during its annual Halloween Horror Nights festival, which takes place evenings every weekend.

Robert Viands of Plantation learned the hard way Saturday after he bought an alcoholic "Jell-O shot" from a roaming vendor -- then let his 17-year-old daughter, Ashley, have a taste. He said the two of them and his daughter's friend, Sergio Jacas, 18, were quickly escorted out of the park and given trespass warnings that prevent their return.

"We have an aggressive zero-tolerance approach to underage drinking. It's against the law, and it's unsafe and we take it very seriously," Universal spokesman Tom Schroder explained -- even if it's just a sip. "We make no exceptions."

Last Friday and Saturday, Universal kicked out at least 127 people for underage drinking, underage possession of alcohol or providing alcohol to a minor. Many more may have been ejected; Orlando police, in releasing those trespass reports to the Orlando Sentinel on Wednesday, noted that paperwork was not yet finished for about half of all the Universal trespass cases from last weekend.

Halloween Horror Nights is particularly popular with teenagers and young adults, and beer and stronger booze are sold by street vendors during the event.

Schroder insisted vendors carefully check patrons' identification cards. He would not comment on specific arrangements, but resort security and police are known to watch the crowd closely.


How warnings work

When someone is issued a trespass warning, there is no immediate criminal offense, provided the person leaves peacefully. However, if someone returns before the warning's expiration date, that person can be arrested and charged with either a first- or second-degree misdemeanor, depending on the circumstances. Universal's warnings cover the entire resort property, including its three resort hotels.

"They obviously have a beverages license they want to protect," said Sgt. Barbara Jones, an Orlando Police Department spokeswoman. "It's private property."

Normally, a person is banished for one year. Viands said he was afraid he, his daughter and Jacas were about to be arrested Saturday night, so he refused to cooperate fully -- and wound up being banned from the resort for life.

He said he's writing to Universal higher-ups to appeal the lifetime ban, but he also complained that even the one-year banishment imposed on his daughter and Jacas was too much, considering all that happened was that he let his own daughter taste his drink.


'It's a lose-lose'

"It's a lose-lose for all involved. We go there all the time, stay in the hotels, spend money. We're not bad people. They're kicking out good people as well as the bad," Viands said. "It's not like we're teenagers who would go there and get drunk and start a fight."

Police and Universal security stay busy during the resort's annual Halloween event, which is a separate, nighttime admission. In addition to those kicked out for underage drinking last weekend, at least 69 other visitors were "trespassed" for other reasons, ranging from public urination to marijuana possession. Some were tossed for fighting, shoplifting or even line jumping.

Among the trespass warnings obtained by the Sentinel, 115 cited underage drinking or alcohol possession, while 12 targeted people age 21 or older -- such as Robert Viands -- who provided alcohol to a minor. The vast majority of those issued warnings were white, and most were from out of town, most typically from South Florida or the Tampa Bay area.

The youngest person busted for underage drinking was a Parkland teen several months shy of his 15th birthday. The oldest was a man from Ormond Beach who was just a week from Florida's legal drinking age of 21.

Orlando lawyer Jon Gutmacher said he gets many calls from people seeking his help after receiving trespass warnings at Universal or Walt Disney World.

He said there's not much he can do, beyond recommending that the person write the resort a nice letter seeking mercy, as Viands plans to do.

"It's insane," he said. "Unfortunately, the way the statutes are written, you can trespass anybody you don't want on your property."

Universal's zero-tolerance policy for underage drinking is not limited to Halloween Horror Nights.


Banished for life

Kathy Sherback, 47, of Tampa said she, her then-18-year-old son and 19-year-old daughter were banished for life from Universal's CityWalk dining district Sept. 5 after security saw her son holding her margarita.

That case led to criminal charges when the Sherbacks' encounter with Universal security and Orlando police became heated and turned into a physical confrontation.

But it all started, she said, when she handed her drink to her son to hold while she fished around in a bag she was carrying.

"It was just getting ridiculous," she said.


Scott Powers can be reached at spowers@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5441.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/custom/tourism/orl-universal2308oct23,0,2330921.story
 

Figment1986

Well-Known Member
Good for universal to be enforcing the rules... thought a little strict they do have to protext their liscense as its issued by orlando and they can pull records and remove it for resort wide if they wanted.
 

Hot4Hudgens

Member
I know about this all too well. I was with a group of 5 in 2005, all of which were of age at the time except my previous girlfriend. Her idiot sister & boyfriend give her a sip of their drink, which was whatever. You see that happen all the time, but then they went and BOUGHT her a drink of her own. A couple of undercovers approach them, take them away, and banned them from the property.

Me and another family member of theirs were stuck waiting in the Guest Services area and were told they were escorted out of the park. We were there for no more than 2 hours before we left. Sooo upsetting. It was a quiet car ride home, to say the least. Ugh.
 

Philo

Well-Known Member
Good work universal.

I'm not against underage people (and I say people because 20 isn't really a child) having a drink as long as it's just that, a quick drink and not enough to get drunk. That said, it's the law and if universal need to be strict to keep their license then so be it.

You don't need alcohol to have fun at the best of times, especially not at a theme park!
 

kcnole

Well-Known Member
I personally wish Universal would cut way back on the alcohol at this event. Its way too in your face. I know they make good money on it but it's over the top. I don't mind having some bars open, but I don't like how its like a club scene there towards the end of the night.
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
I have been there on a Saturday night...and towards the end of the night...it feels really "unsafe" because of all of the drunk people.
 
Good Move Universal. I was 15 when I started going into the pubs in the UK so Im certainly not against Underage drinking or a prudish in any sense of the word.
However there are far too many idiots who simply dont know 'when to stop' and usually these people are usually the underage drinkers.


Having said that god knows how you get served beer in the US if your underage I was getting ID last year and I was 25 at the time!
 

HeatherK

Member
I personally wish Universal would cut way back on the alcohol at this event. Its way too in your face. I know they make good money on it but it's over the top. I don't mind having some bars open, but I don't like how its like a club scene there towards the end of the night.

I agree with how it is way too in your face. Pretty much every 5 feet there is more alcohol. I went to HHN the past 2 years, and it was just crazy. This year I went on a thurdays with a friend and my boyfriend, and we went to see Bill and Ted's Excellent Halloween Adventure and people were too drunk that I was honestly scared. The people sitting in front of us started fighting, like a boyfriend and girlfriend, and the guy was cussing and I thought he was going to hurt someone. They need to cut back just a bit.
 

kcnole

Well-Known Member
Of course I agree since I made the original comment. :) There comes a time when you have to balance profit for responsibility and I think they've crossed the line in places. Of course ultimately its the idiots fault for getting so wasted (I've never understood the "I have to be drunk to have fun logic"), but Universal is responsible for creating a scary, but safe atmosphere. Being afraid of a vampire is ok, being afraid that I'm going to get hit by some drunk dude is not.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
And to think this is supposed to be a "family" event? :eek:

And to think I almost thought this was a relevant conversation.

Crockett you have personally made the whole Universal section of this forum ineffective and a laughing stock.

You have done NOTHING to disparage Universals reputation, but everything to disparage this site's.

I hope the moderators do what needs to be done...and quick.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
well he has been banned so it's over

It's about time. This bump is the funniest one yet though. Not only could their no tolerance policy be interpreted as a GOOD thing, but the bump itself was completely inane. No, HHN is not a "family" event and never has been. :ROFLOL:
 

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