U.S cell phone DO NOT CALL LIST...

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Foolish Mortal

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Just got this in an e-mail and thought i'd share with everybody, especially since I was not aware of this.

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In a few weeks, cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls. You will be charged for these calls.

Call this number from your cell phone 888-382-1222.

It is the national DO NOT CALL list. It only takes a minute of your time. It blocks your number for 5 years. Please pass this on to everyone you know who doesn't want to be hassled.

Or you can go to donotcall.gov and do it on-line.
 

TAC

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Please read THIS first:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


Claim: A directory of cell phone numbers will soon be published.

Status: Multiple:

A consortium of wireless providers is planning to create a 411 (directory assistance) service for cell phone numbers: True.


You must register your cell phone with the national "Do Not Call" directory before 1 January 2005 to prevent your number from being provided to telemarketers: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2004]


A directory of cell phone numbers will soon be published for all consumers to have access to. This will open the doors for solicitors to call you on your cell phones, using up the precious minutes that we pay lots of money for. The Federal Trade Commission has set up a "do not call" list. It is called a cell phone registry. To be included on the "do not call" list, you must call from the number you wish to register.

The number is 1-888-382-1222 or you can go to their website at www.donotcall.gov.


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Starting Jan 1, 2005, all cell phone numbers will be made public to telemarketing firms. So this means as of Jan 1, your cell phone may start ringing off the hook with telemarketers, but unlike your home phone, most plans pay for your incoming calls. These telemarketers will eat up your free minutes and end up costing money. According to the National Do Not Call List, you have until Dec 15, 2004 to get on the national "Do Not Call List" for cell phones. You can either call 1-888-382-1222 from the cell phone that you wish to have put on the "do not call list" or you can do it online at www.donotcall.gov.

Registering only takes a minute, is in effect for 5 years. All of you will need to register before Dec 15. You may want to also do your own personal cell phones.


Origins: As the use of cellular telephone technology has grown tremendously in the last several years, many consumers have given up maintaining traditional land-line phone service entirely. They prefer the convenient portability of cell phones, as well as the privacy: So far, cell phone numbers have generally been excluded from printed phone directories and directory assistance services, and protections have been put in place to restrict telemarketing calls to cell phones.

Soon, however, some of the privacy that cell phones provide may be eroded. Six national wireless companies (AllTel, AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile) have banded together and hired Qsent, Inc. to produce a Wireless 411 service. Their goal is to pool their listings to create a comprehensive directory of cell phone customer names and phone numbers that would be made available to directory assistance providers. (In most places, telephone users can call directory assistance at 411 [for local numbers] or by dialing an area code plus 555-1212 [for out-of-area numbers] and, by providing enough information to identify an individual phone customer [usually a full name and city of residence], obtain that customer's phone number.

Many cell phone customers are opposed to the proposed Wireless 411 service for a number of reasons:
They prefer the privacy of knowing that their cell phone numbers are available only to those to whom they provide them. They don't want other people being able to obtain their cell phone numbers without their consent or knowledge.

They are concerned that their cell phone numbers will be sold to telemarketers (or other groups that might make undesirable use of those numbers).

They see one of the goals of the Wireless 411 service as a ploy to spread cell phone numbers to wider circles of friends and acquaintances, who will then place calls to cell phones and thereby force cell customers to pay for additional wireless minutes.
The wireless companies behind the proposed Wireless 411 service contend that their service will be beneficial to cellular customers and that they have addressed those customers' major concerns:
The service would save money for the estimated five million customers who use only cellular phones and currently pay to have their cell phone numbers listed in phone directories.

The Wireless 411 service would be strictly "opt-in" — that is, wireless customers will be included in the directory only if they specifically request to be added. The phone numbers of wireless customers who do nothing will not be included, those who choose to be listed can have their numbers removed from the directory if they change their minds, and there is no charge for requesting to be included or choosing not to be included.

The Wireless 411 information will not be included in printed phone directories, distributed in other printed form, made available via the Internet, or sold to telemarketers. It will be made available only to operator service centers performing the 411 directory assistance service.
Nonetheless, many consumers don't trust the Wireless 411 consortium to uphold their promises, and although Qsent and its clients plan to make the Wireless 411 service available sometime in 2005, its implementation in that time frame is far from certain, as the wireless companies are still fighting proposed legislation which seeks to regulate wireless phone directories.

So, although the gist of the message quoted at the head of this page is correct in alerting consumers to a proposed directory of cell phone numbers, it is misleading in stating that such a directory will "soon be published" (the word "published" implies making a printed directory available, which the wireless consortium maintains they will not do) and in directing readers to sign up with the The National Do Not Call Registry. The latter step will not keep wireless customer listings out of the proposed Wireless 411 database — it will only add their phone numbers to a list of numbers off-limits to most telemarketers, a step which is premature (because the Wireless 411 directory has not yet been implemented) and largely unnecessary (because the Wireless 411 directory information is not supposed to be supplied to telemarketers, and because FCC regulations already in place block the bulk of telemarketing calls to cell phones).

Some versions of the exhortation to cell phone users to add their names to the Do Not Call Registry erroneously state there is a 15 December 2004 deadline for getting listed. Says Lois Greisman, the Federal Trade Commission official who oversees the anti-telemarketing registry: "There is no deadline; there never has been a deadline to register."

However, belief that there might be such a cut-off coupled with the e-mailed alerts themselves have served to multiply many times over the number of registrations. Since the initial wave of sign-ups following the 2003 launch of the list, registrations have come in at the rate of 200,000 new numbers a week. Yet in the final week of November 2004, nearly 1 million new subscribers were added, and in the first week of December 2004, that figure jumped to 2 million. At this point in time, 69 million phone numbers are contained in the registry.

Adding one's cell phone number to the National Do Not Call Registry (even if currently unnecessary) won't likely have any adverse effect, but customers should be aware of exactly what that action will or will not accomplish.

Updates: Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular Corp. have always been opposed to the proposed cell phone directory, and initial partners Sprint Corp. and Alltel Corp. have since pulled away from the project due to concerns about bad publicity and possible new government regulations. So, as of January 2005, even if the cell phone directory database was compiled as planned, at least 45% of U.S. cell phone numbers wouldn't be included.

In April 2005, USA Today reported that registrations for the national do-not-call list for the week ending April 2 were about double the normal level, and registrations for the following week reached a peak five times higher than average. The newspaper also reiterated what we stated above:
. . . the anxiety is unfounded. First, it's illegal to make sales pitches to wireless phones by using automatic dialers — which is how the vast majority of telemarketing calls are placed. (One reason is that cellular users must pay for incoming calls.)

Also, most of the big wireless carriers have chosen either not to take part in the directory or to put off any plans to do so in light of consumer fears. They say any directory would include only those customers who agreed to participate and that the numbers would not be shared with telemarketers or anyone else. Congress has considered a bill to codify such rules.
 

Eeyore

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I've read that the email is a hoax. The FTC does not have a do not call registry for cell phones, but you may register your cell phone number on their regular landline registry.

http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall/

The following is from the FTC website:

The Truth about Cell Phones and the National Do Not Call Registry

If you’ve received an e-mail telling you that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls as a result of a new cell phone number database, rest assured that this is not the case. Telemarketing to cell phone numbers has always been illegal in most cases and will continue to be so. In response to recent e-mail campaigns urging consumers to place their cell phone numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry, the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission issue this advisory to give consumers the facts.

One e-mail making the rounds says:
“JUST A REMINDER...In a few weeks, cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number for five (5) years. PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS...”

Another version claims:

“The Federal Trade Commission has set up a "do not call" list. It is called a cell phone registry. To be included on the "do not call" list, you must call from the number you wish to register.”

Here’s what you need to know about the National Do Not Call Registry program:

  • <LI class=bodyText>FCC regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their cell phones without their consent.

    <LI class=bodyText>The federal government does not maintain a national cell phone registry. Personal cell phone users have always been able to add their numbers to the National Do Not Call Registry — the same Registry consumers use to register their land lines — either online at www.donotcall.gov or by calling toll-free 1-888-382-1222 from the telephone number they wish to register. Registrations become effective within 31 days of signing up and are active for five years. There is no cut-off date or deadline for registrations.
  • Business-to-business calls are not covered under the Registry.
For More Information

To learn more about the National Do Not Call Registry and the rules that enforce it, visit the FTC at www.ftc.gov or the FCC at www.fcc.gov. For more information about a planned “wireless 411” directory, visit http://www.qsent.com/wireless411/index.shtml.
 

WDWScottieBoy

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TAC said:
Soon, however, some of the privacy that cell phones provide may be eroded. Six national wireless companies (AllTel, AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile) have banded together and hired Qsent, Inc. to produce a Wireless 411 service.

As Tom has stated, only those companies are releasing their customers numbers. I have Verizon and have been promised by their CEO that he WILL NOT sell any of his customers numbers to telemarketers. If you are worried that your number might be given out, contact your local provider and ask them. If they say they will be, I'd call the 888 number ASAP.
 

Woody13

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My question is, "Does anyone bother to check these silly email rumors before they repost this nonsense and embarrass themselves?"
 

Foolish Mortal

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Woody13 said:
My question is, "Does anyone bother to check these silly email rumors before they repost this nonsense and embarrass themselves?"

O.K since I started the thread i'll answer this. NO I didn't check !!!! 1st. I wouldn't know where to check, nor do I want to spend all day getting the run around from who ever I decided to check with. 2nd. Last week I received one of those machine dialed calls telling me I had won airline tickets and that i'd have to call a phone number within 48 hours to claim them. 3rd. These days the way big business works and the fact that companies are allowed to get away with stuff this kind of thing wouldn't have surprised me.

I'm so sorry if i've so horribly offended you by posting what I thought might be info. for people such as myself who didn't know anybetter.

So excuse me for embarrassing myself out of society by posting info that you already knew more about than I did. Since the news these days is nothing but rape/murder/child abductions etc can you possibly forgive me for missing the news broadcast that might have cover'ed this issue.

And WHY did you even bother to open this thread if you already knew about all the info anyway ?? Maybe the topic is redundant to you and you're sick of seeing the topic again, well guess what, the world aint perfect. Suck it up, deal with it and move on. And stop opening topics you're sick of seeing.

I'm sick of seeing new threads about monorail expansion, a Harry Potter ride, refillable mugs and the usual stuff that gets recylced. But what are ya gonna do, it happens. I don't open the thread and ridicule anybody, I simply skip it and move on. Try not to be so darn perfect all the time.

p.s. please excuse in advance for any spelling, gramatical or punctuation errors. The rules of the English language was never my favorite subject.

p.s.s. If anyone can tell me how to remove this horribly offending thread i'll be more than happy to do so and move to a cave and live with the embarrassment that i've brought upon myself.
 

WDWScottieBoy

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Before everyone gets their underwear in a bunch...I was told by corporate phone companies that the ones who will be selling their customer's numbers will take place on May 1st. Therefore they weren't sold on January 1st like previously stated.

If you have questions or concerns about it, call your local company or their corporate number and they will tell you the status on your number.

(And don't flame me either!)
 

Figment1986

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They would never allow a cell phone to get on a Telemarketer list... cause no mater what your charged for their calling...

And i dont want to be at work and get a call from them... Or at school...
 

Foolish Mortal

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TAC, Eeyore, and ScottieBoy, in no way did I mean to offend the 3 of you. You all provided informative information that was good reading and clarified the topic at hand. I guess what I should have said was that I was put off by Woodys comment and people who think like that and question other peoples intent thinking...oh no not this again how can this person NOT KNOW this information is misleading or outdated. Normally I DON'T think too much of stuff I read on the net or receive in email. But like I stated before, I had ALREADY received a sales call last week. And not knowing the info that has since been posted, I thought there might have some legitamacy to it. My intent was only to share info that I thought would be helpful in preventing possible nuisance calls.

I DID NOT think the 3 of you were being rude or taking a shot at me !!! So hopefully no hard feelings :wave: Woodys presumptioin that everybody already knew this info and then stating I was embarrassing myself by posting the info just rubbed me the wrong way.
 

WDWScottieBoy

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No hard feeling at all. I didn't think anyone was attacking me either. I just thought I would add to the subject by saying what I have heard recently so some cell phone customers don't get upset.

:wave:
 

Woody13

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WDWScottieBoy said:
As Tom has stated, only those companies are releasing their customers numbers. I have Verizon and have been promised by their CEO that he WILL NOT sell any of his customers numbers to telemarketers. If you are worried that your number might be given out, contact your local provider and ask them. If they say they will be, I'd call the 888 number ASAP.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/business/10650792.htm

Posted on Sun, Jan. 16, 2005
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Cell phone directory postponed

JESSE DRUCKER
Wall Street Journal

Later this year, a coalition of cellular carriers had planned to unveil the first national directory of cell phone numbers, accessible to anyone who dials 411.

Not so fast.

Two of the country's biggest cellular carriers, Sprint Corp. and Alltel Corp., have quietly pulled back from the project. Both are worried about bad publicity over privacy concerns and possible new government regulations. Those two carriers say they don't expect to offer their nearly 30 million cellular numbers to any such directory this year.

Meanwhile, Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular Corp. have been strongly opposed to the directory and won't provide their numbers. All this means that at least 45 percent of the country's cell phone numbers - and likely many more - won't be in the database when it is set to be offered near the end of the year.

There are many reasons consumers don't simply ditch their landlines and go completely wireless, including dead zones, muffled calls and short battery life. But the difficulty of listing a cell phone number is another factor. In one survey sponsored by the wireless industry's main trade group, about a quarter of cell phone customers said they would like a directory, under certain conditions. Wireless directories exist in a number of other countries, including several Scandinavian ones.

In fact, many cell phone users indicate in surveys that they enjoy the fact that their phone numbers are available only to people they want to reach them - especially since most cell phone plans charge for incoming calls.

The country's biggest cell phone companies have been discussing a wireless directory for years, since it could increase the use of the phones and generate new revenue from people being charged when calling 411.

But concerns have erupted about privacy. Customers who have only recently fled annoying telemarketing calls on their home phones (thanks to the national Do Not Call list) worry the same would spread to their cell phones. In response, carriers now say they will collect numbers only from subscribers who say they want to be listed.

Much of the opposition has been generated by Verizon Wireless, the country's second biggest cell phone operator with 42.1 million subscribers. The carrier opposes the service under any circumstances, citing customer privacy.

Last September, Denny Strigl, chief executive of Verizon Wireless, testified before a congressional committee considering bills to regulate such a directory. "There is not a groundswell of customer demand for a directory that would justify putting privacy in jeopardy," he said.

However, Mr. Strigl didn't mention two things: Verizon Communications Inc., the majority owner of Verizon Wireless, currently sells such a service directly to customers, allowing them to list cellphone numbers in Verizon phonebooks for a monthly fee. (The directory Verizon Wireless is fighting doesn't plan to charge consumers to list their numbers.) And Verizon Communications also explored marketing a cellphone directory service to other wireless providers in 2003, according to a person familiar with those discussions, with Verizon proposing to collect other carriers' cellular numbers.

Mr. Strigl said Verizon Communications' competing business isn't a factor in his opposition. He said there isn't a lot of overlap between Verizon Wireless customers and the markets served by its parent's directory service. Plus, he said, Verizon Wireless competes "ferociously" with Verizon for landline telephone customers. "Why would we be afraid of competing over a directory service?" he asked. He said he wasn't familiar with the parent company looking into the possibility of listing cellular numbers.

U.S. Cellular, the country's seventh biggest with 4.8 million customers, also is opposed under any circumstances to a cellphone directory. "We can talk all we want about (privacy) safeguards, but customers don't trust us enough to believe that the safeguards will be adequate," said CEO John E. Rooney.

Consumers Union and the AARP, meanwhile, say the proposed federal legislation, which would ban the industry from including numbers unless consumers opt in, is necessary to protect privacy. Such concerns have been fueled by a flurry of spam e-mails lately, warning consumers they will get unsolicited calls if they don't sign up immediately to include their cellphone numbers on a Do Not Call list. (These e-mails are a bit misguided since federal law already forbids telemarketers from calling cellphones.)

In response to fears like those, the carriers and Qsent also pledge that they won't share numbers with telemarketers. (Traditional telephone directory publishers like Verizon sell their numbers to companies that then resell them to telemarketers and research organizations.)

Qsent says the service remains on track. "We're still on pace to have some carriers offer the service in 2005," said Greg Keene, chief privacy officer of the closely held Portland, Ore., company. "It's just a timing issue." He said some carriers could begin soliciting numbers from customers as soon as March.

Meanwhile, some states are taking matters into their own hands. In September, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill into law requiring a signature from customers to authorize their inclusion in a cellphone directory. And last month, Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal sent letters to the major cellular carriers calling on them to stop their plans for the directory. Even though federal law prohibits telemarketers from calling cellphones he thinks telemarketers would make use of the list. "The only way to effectively stop a telemarketer is to keep the list private," said Mr. Blumenthal.

Verizon Wireless' Strigl contended that regulatory activity is one big issue he sought to avoid by opposing the directory. "Why give legislators another opportunity to in some way regulate this business?" he asked.

Sprint supports the eventual creation of the director, said Paul Reddick, the carrier's vice president for business development and planning. But "it didn't make sense for us to keep pushing through all the misinformation" to launch it this year, he added.
 

Eeyore

Mrs. WDWMAGIC [Assistant Administrator]
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Foolish Mortal said:
I DID NOT think the 3 of you were being rude or taking a shot at me !!! So hopefully no hard feelings :wave: Woodys presumptioin that everybody already knew this info and then stating I was embarrassing myself by posting the info just rubbed me the wrong way.

Don't worry about it! :wave:
No hard Feelings at all. You're were just trying to help us all out, there is nothing wrong with that! I had recieved the email myself from a well intentioned family member the day before and was concerned about its validity, so I searched for "Cell Phone Do not Call Registry" and came up with the FTC's website which I found very helpful.


I agree that Woody's post was harsh. I hope that all of us will spend a little more time considering how our comments might make other people feel before we post them. I have to say that lately I am really surprised with the posts that are being made, I'm not sure why people can't treat each other with common decency on a Walt Disney World message board of all places!
 
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