TSA Pre-Check like system may be coming for Passholders

[TheGuyThatMakesSwords]

So just us....

Were something like this to occur? It should start with DVC. With DVC? WDW already HAS just about EVERYTHING concerning our lives.... and probably a $20K plus commitment.

Now - need more? ASK. Betting my tail that most DVC owners would provide the data. DL scan? US PASSPORT scan? Tell us what you want.

 

[muddyrivers]

This should NEVER EVER EVER be implemented. Why? Unlike TSA Precheck, bags of guests currently aren't X-Rayed to view the contents inside. I would only imagine Disney's "Precheck" would allow you to skip the long bag check line. Just because you were proven safe in the past, doesn't stop someone from putting something illegal in their bag after they have been approved for Precheck.

As it is, I get extremely irritated when people are "randomly selected" to go through the metal detectors as it just becomes security theater if you are not actually examining everyone. Two of the three days I was at EPCOT this past week, everyone, whether they had bags or not, had to go through metal detectors, which is exactly how things should be done. Just like everyone on the monorail resort loop needs to go through a metal detector before they go on the monorail.

 

[drizgirl]

This should NEVER EVER EVER be implemented. Why? Unlike TSA Precheck, bags of guests currently aren't X-Rayed to view the contents inside. I would only imagine Disney's "Precheck" would allow you to skip the long bag check line. Just because you were proven safe in the past, doesn't stop someone from putting something illegal in their bag after they have been approved for Precheck.

As it is, I get extremely irritated when people are "randomly selected" to go through the metal detectors as it just becomes security theater if you are not actually examining everyone. Two of the three days I was at EPCOT this past week, everyone, whether they had bags or not, had to go through metal detectors, which is exactly how things should be done. Just like everyone on the monorail resort loop needs to go through a metal detector before they go on the monorail.

But just imagine how much of a revenue stream this could create....

 

[matt9112]

I wish Disney would stop with the nonsense regarding security. Random checks only and now this pre-check idea is just crazy in today’s world imo. Also imo, every single person should have to go through the metal detectors before entering the parks AND all of the resorts no matter how many times they have proven themselves to be trustworthy in the past. I don’t care that it interrupts my visit or anyone else’s. I’d rather be inconvenienced and safe than for some idiot to get in and do who knows what. They really need to rethink the entire security barrier and invest however much money they need to limit the risk as much as possible. Right now it does not feel like they are doing anywhere near enough. I even think they should have bomb sniffing dogs/devices that check every car/van/bus that comes into guest parking areas...but I know that will probably never happen.

what you want cannot be done in any economical manner. part of what makes America different is that I can go places ant not feel like it's occupied by the military 24/7
in reality a safer world would be one where you get screened going anywhere for anything but that safe world is one that I would never want to live in. I used to work in Boston and do you know how easy it is for me and my big tool bag to get into any building on any floor? get over it the world is dangerous.

 

[TiggerDad]

Here we go again...
Metal detectors do not catch all things that can be used to cause harm to guests.
Background checks do not catch all people who will commit a crime in the future.
There is no one magic bullet to security.
/end rant

Now, if I could use my TSA PreCheck card that I already have to go through some form of reduced security, it would be good.

 

[DisneyCane]

How about if you actually are approved for TSA pre check and you are a passholder, you can get the quicker screening?

DHS shares the database with airlines so why not WDW?

 

[Kevin_W]

Now, if I could use my TSA PreCheck card that I already have to go through some form of reduced security, it would be good.

That is what I was thinking - many visitors have already had extensive background checks through Pre-Check/Global Entry/Nexus/etc. It would be nice if Disney let you make use of that screening.

 

[danv3]

I wish they would fix the issue of guests entering EPCOT via monorail having to go through security twice.

 

[HauntedPirate]

This "idea" is just flat out bad. It should never have made it out of a conference room meeting, and should be where it belongs - in the garbage.

 

[HauntedPirate]

That is what I was thinking - many visitors have already had extensive background checks through Pre-Check/Global Entry/Nexus/etc. It would be nice if Disney let you make use of that screening.

Because there is a tiny security gap between the time you go thru the TSA screening at an airport and the time you get to the gate of a WDW theme park. And by "tiny", I mean one large enough to drive a massive earth mover thru.

 

[Disney.Mike]

It must be scary living in some of you guys world...

The truth is there will always be a bottleneck at WDW going into the initial security check. If there is going to be an attack, its going to happen there and nothing can be done about it.

There will always be a large bottleneck somewhere regardless of where they put security checkpoints...

 

[jt04]

TSA style pre-screening makes sense as long as it includes random checks and other precautions. AP passholder and DVC could be rather easily included. Also military and government workers. IMO.

 

[DisneyCane]

It must be scary living in some of you guys world...

The truth is there will always be a bottleneck at WDW going into the initial security check. If there is going to be an attack, its going to happen there and nothing can be done about it.

There will always be a large bottleneck somewhere regardless of where they put security checkpoints...

Also, I can absolutely guarantee you that if a group of terrorists stormed Epcot, for example, with automatic weapons and/or explosives nothing is going to stop them.

Keep in mind that airport security is supposed to keep weapons/explosives off of the aircraft. Even the TSA screening isn't designed to prevent attacks inside the terminal.

 

[bclane]

what you want cannot be done in any economical manner. part of what makes America different is that I can go places ant not feel like it's occupied by the military 24/7
in reality a safer world would be one where you get screened going anywhere for anything but that safe world is one that I would never want to live in. I used to work in Boston and do you know how easy it is for me and my big tool bag to get into any building on any floor? get over it the world is dangerous.

No doubt. But I do think they could screen every person that goes into the parks (like Uni does) and resorts (which would be difficult but could happen). However, this hasn't stopped me from going, nor will it. I admit my wish that they would check all the cars is a pipe dream and, for the record, I said already that I knew it woudn't ever happen.

 

[bclane]

Here we go again...
Metal detectors do not catch all things that can be used to cause harm to guests.
Background checks do not catch all people who will commit a crime in the future.
There is no one magic bullet to security.
/end rant

Now, if I could use my TSA PreCheck card that I already have to go through some form of reduced security, it would be good.

True, and that is why you need a multifaceted approach. Metal detectors can't catch everything, but they can catch a lot of things that can do massive destruction and hurt a lot of people. And just having everyone walk through them is a deterrent as even if nothing else, it makes a location appear to be a more difficult target.

 

[AEfx]

I wish Disney would stop with the nonsense regarding security. Random checks only and now this pre-check idea is just crazy in today’s world imo. Also imo, every single person should have to go through the metal detectors before entering the parks AND all of the resorts no matter how many times they have proven themselves to be trustworthy in the past. I don’t care that it interrupts my visit or anyone else’s. I’d rather be inconvenienced and safe than for some idiot to get in and do who knows what. They really need to rethink the entire security barrier and invest however much money they need to limit the risk as much as possible. Right now it does not feel like they are doing anywhere near enough. I even think they should have bomb sniffing dogs/devices that check every car/van/bus that comes into guest parking areas...but I know that will probably never happen.

Yeah, I mean - with all the crimes committed every day at WDW, all the murders and robberies and loss of life, they absolutely should turn it into a police state. How else will we stop all this madness?

 

[AEfx]

My issue is that Disney is putting on an expensive show with their current security policies vs actually making the parks safe.

1. You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes for security. Which is good, because that is how it is intended. Further increasing the theater just makes paranoid people feel better, and frankly - nothing will satisfy them, because they are paranoid.

2. What evidence do you have to provide regarding the lack of safety of the parks? What crime statistics do you have that the rest of us don't that paint them as "unsafe"?

 

[bclane]

Yeah, I mean - with all the crimes committed every day at WDW, all the murders and robberies and loss of life, they absolutely should turn it into a police state. How else will we stop all this madness?

1. You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes for security. Which is good, because that is how it is intended. Further increasing the theater just makes paranoid people feel better, and frankly - nothing will satisfy them, because they are paranoid.

2. What evidence do you have to provide regarding the lack of safety of the parks? What crime statistics do you have that the rest of us don't that paint them as "unsafe"?

So because I think everyone should go through a metal detector like they do at the other big parks in Orlando, you equate that to me wanting to turn it into a police state??? Oooooookaaaaay... Look, I think the parks are safe for the everyday stuff and I enjoy them all the time. I just also think WDW is a potential target for jackasses like the guys that shot up Pulse and Vegas. That is the kind of thing I don’t think they are ready for and obviously they are taking steps to expand their security budget so apparently they realize it too. I would simply like to see them do more and do things smarter than random checks...and giving a security fastpass to APers just seems like a dumb idea to me. I admit that my wish that they would also figure out a way to prevent someone from driving up to one of the resorts with a car bomb and blowing it up is not realistic.

 

[lazyboy97o]

No doubt. But I do think they could screen every person that goes into the parks (like Uni does) and resorts (which would be difficult but could happen). My issue is that Disney is putting on an expensive show with their current security policies vs actually making the parks safe. However, this hasn't stopped me from going, nor will it. I admit my wish that they would check all the cars is a pipe dream and, for the record, I said already that I knew it woudn't ever happen.

Everyone being screened is still an expensive show.

 

[bclane]

Everyone being screened is still an expensive show.

Sure, in the sense that you can't stop all threats that's true. I don't disagree with that at all. But what I'm worried about is some guy walking into WDW like the Pulse shooter who had enough firepower to kill multitudes of people, or the jackhole who brought all those guns into the Mandalay Bay and carried out a massive attack on the crowd below. Those types of attacks would be prevented by screening everyone through a metal detector. Yes, they could still bring stuff up to the security checkpoint, but that is also where they already have a ton of security personnel in place who should be able to quickly put an active shooter down.