News Tropical Storm Debby Possible Impacts to WDW

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Nubs70

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The tornado warnings issued for today in the Orlando area is concerning to all the locals and tourists in the area.


Tornado Warnings mean a tornado is on the ground or there is, at this moment, sufficient radar indicated circulation that a tornado is imminent.

Tornado Watches are that conditions exist that are favorable to.Tornado formation. A.Watch means it could happen but currently is not.
 

Gringrinngghost

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Question, is there a more reliable and accurate site than tropicaltidbits? When going to forecast models and sliding the bar it constantly changes storms paths throughout the day.
National Hurricane Center.

Also TropicalTidbits is showing forecast models like the GFS and Euro which change 4x a day... but given we are in a nowcast approach, HRRR which is hourly.
 

Alice a

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Then yeah you should probably head inland or for higher ground at the very latest. Don't wait until the last minute.
Would love to, but we are in a difficult position. We run the last hardware store left downtown/on the Peninsula (family store, 4 generations!) and the only place that downtown residents and businesses can still get their supplies as the water rises.

We live downtown so we can walk/wade in and still serve the community in these events, but also won't require staff to commute in, so it's going to be a skeleton crew, and I can't let the fam down or make staff risk their vehicles or health for something we won't do ourselves.

It just sucks :(
 

Brian

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Smiley/OCD

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Would love to, but we are in a difficult position. We run the last hardware store left downtown/on the Peninsula (family store, 4 generations!) and the only place that downtown residents and businesses can still get their supplies as the water rises.

We live downtown so we can walk/wade in and still serve the community in these events, but also won't require staff to commute in, so it's going to be a skeleton crew, and I can't let the fam down or make staff risk their vehicles or health for something we won't do ourselves.

It just sucks :(
Yes, it sucks, but you play a VERY important part and role in your community!! That’s something I’d be VERY proud of!!
PLEASE BE SAFE & come back and keep us updated!!
 

JohnD

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The tornado warnings issued for today in the Orlando area is concerning to all the locals and tourists in the area.
The Orlando area is under a tornado WATCH until 8pm. That means conditions are favorable and to be vigilant.

If a WARNING is issued, a tornado has touched down. Get to a safe area immediately. In Florida that means a room on the lowest level of a building away from windows.

My home was already in the path of two that merged together in May. I was just north of the main path. Here's a high level view of the path. My home is the dot and fortunately escaped any damage. You can bet I hunkered down in the closet underneath my stairs. It was no picnic.

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Lilofan

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The Orlando area is under a tornado WATCH until 8pm. That means conditions are favorable and to be vigilant.

If a WARNING is issued, a tornado has touched down. Get to a safe area immediately. In Florida that means a room on the lowest level of a building away from windows.

My home was already in the path of two that merged together in May. I was just north of the main path. Here's a high level view of the path. My home is the dot and fortunately escaped any damage. You can bet I hunkered down in the closet underneath my stairs. It was no picnic.

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A place with no windows is the safest place like what you did. We hid in our walk in closet when the different hurricanes rolled in.
 

Smiley/OCD

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Am I the only Central Floridian that has never "taken cover" during a storm?
I’m sure you’re not the only one, but I can tell you this…I’ve lived at the Jersey shore for 30+ years…when my girls were small, we would go over the Mantoloking bridge to get to the boardwalk and we’d watch all these GIGANTIC homes being built and I said SOMEDAY, we’ll get hit and the ocean will meet the bay…they laughed and said I was nuts…and so did all those people building those houses…then Sandy hit…
I’m a Jets fan…I don’t gamble…
Of course I realize they’re at the coast and you’re close to 50 miles inland, but it can happen…
 

Gringrinngghost

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Code:
BULLETIN
Tropical Storm Debby Intermediate Advisory Number 10A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL042024
800 PM EDT Sun Aug 04 2024

...DEBBY STRENGTHENING AS IT HEADS TOWARD THE FLORIDA BIG BEND
AREA...
...WILL BRING A MAJOR FLOOD THREAT TO THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED
STATES THIS WEEK...


SUMMARY OF 800 PM EDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.1N 84.1W
ABOUT 100 MI...160 KM W OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 90 MI...150 KM SW OF CEDAR KEY FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...992 MB...29.30 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
None

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast from the middle of Longboat Key northward to Indian
Pass including Tampa Bay
* Georgia and South Carolina coast from the Mouth of the St. Mary's
River to South Santee River South Carolina

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* Florida coast from Bonita Beach northward to the middle of
Longboat Key, including Charlotte Harbor

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast from the Suwannee River to Indian Pass

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Florida coast south of the Suwannee River to Yankeetown

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast south of the Suwannee River to Bonita Beach
* Florida coast from west of Indian Pass to Mexico Beach
* Ponte Vedre Beach to the Savannah River

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* Savannah River to South Santee River South Carolina

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area.  Preparations to protect life
and property should be rushed to completion.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are
possible within the watch area, generally within 48 hours.

A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening
inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline. For
a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.

This is a life-threatening situation.  Persons located within these
areas should take all necessary actions to protect life and property
from rising water and the potential for other dangerous conditions.
Promptly follow evacuation and other instructions from local
officials.

A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline. For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National
Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.

Interests elsewhere along the southeastern coast of the United
States should monitor the progress of this system. Additional
watches and warnings will likely be required tonight or Monday.

For storm information specific to your area, including possible
inland watches and warnings, please monitor products issued by your
local National Weather Service forecast office.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 800 PM EDT (0000 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm Debby was
located near latitude 28.1 North, longitude 84.1 West.  Debby is
moving toward the north near 12 mph (19 km/h).  A gradual decrease
in forward speed with a turn toward the northeast and east is
expected on Monday and Tuesday.  On the forecast track, the center
will move across the northeastern Gulf of Mexico through tonight and
reach the Florida Big Bend coast around midday Monday.  Debby is
then expected to move slowly across northern Florida and southern
Georgia Monday and Tuesday.

Maximum sustained winds have increased to near 70 mph (110 km/h)
with higher gusts.  Rapid strengthening is forecast, and Debby is
expected to become a hurricane tonight, with additional
strengthening likely before it reaches the Florida Big Bend coast
on Monday.  Weakening is expected on Monday and Tuesday after Debby
moves inland.

Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 140 miles (220 km)
from the center. NOAA Buoy 42036 recently reported sustained winds
of 45 mph (72 km/h) with a gust to 56 mph (90 km/h).  A wind gust
to 60 mph (96 km/h) has been reported at Sarasota, Florida, within
the past hour and a wind gust to 56 mph (90 km/h) was recently
reported at Albert Whitted Airport in St. Petersburg, Florida.

The minimum central pressure estimated from data from a NOAA
reconnaissance aircraft is 992 mb (29.30 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key messages for Debby can be found in the Tropical Cyclone
Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO header WTNT44 KNHC.

WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected in the hurricane warning
area and are possible in the hurricane watch area by early Monday,
with tropical storm conditions expected to arrive later this
evening and overnight. Tropical storm conditions will continue
to spread northward over the tropical storm warning area along the
Florida Gulf coast through tonight, and begin along portions of the
tropical storm warning area along the Atlantic coast by late
Monday. Tropical storm conditions are possible along the coast of
South Carolina within the tropical storm watch area late Monday
night.

STORM SURGE: The combination of storm surge and tide will cause
normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising waters
moving inland from the shoreline. The water could reach the
following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated areas if
the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...

Suwannee River to Ochlockonee River, FL...6-10 ft
Yankeetown, FL to Suwannee River, FL...5-8 ft
Ochlockonee River, FL to Indian Pass, FL...4-6 ft
Tampa Bay...3-5 ft
Middle of Longboat Key, FL to Yankeetown, FL...3-5 ft
Bonita Beach, FL to Middle of Longboat Key, FL...2-4 ft
Mouth of the St. Mary's River to South Santee River, SC...2-4 ft
Charlotte Harbor...2-4 ft

For a complete depiction of areas at risk of storm surge inundation,
please see the National Weather Service Peak Storm Surge Graphic,
available at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?peakSurge.

RAINFALL: Debby is expected to produce rainfall totals of 6 to 12
inches, with maximum amounts of 18 inches, across portions of
northern Florida and southeastern North Carolina through Friday
morning.  This rainfall will likely result in areas of considerable
flash and urban flooding, with significant river flooding expected.

Across portions of southeast Georgia and South Carolina, 10 to 20
inches of rainfall, with local amounts to 30 inches, are expected
through Friday morning.  This potentially historic rainfall will
likely result in areas of catastrophic flooding.

For western Cuba, additional rainfall amounts of 1 to 2 inches, with
localized higher amounts, will be possible through today. This will
result in isolated to scattered areas of flooding.

For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall and flash flooding
associated with Tropical Storm Debby, please see the National
Weather Service Storm Total Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?rainqpf and the Flash Flood Risk
graphic at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?ero

TORNADOES: A few tornadoes are possible over central and northern
Florida and southern Georgia tonight and Monday.  The threat will
spread northeastward into coastal Georgia and parts of South
Carolina on Monday.

SURF:  Swells generated by Debby are expected to affect much of the
Gulf coast of Florida through Monday.  Swells will begin to affect
the Southeast U.S. coast on Monday and continue through the middle
of the week. These conditions are likely to cause life-threatening
surf and rip current conditions. Please consult products from your
local weather office.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next complete advisory at 1100 PM EDT.

$$
Forecaster Brown

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JohnD

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Am I the only Central Floridian that has never "taken cover" during a storm?
There are currently tornado warnings to the north (Lake City) and east (Cape Canaveral) of you. So apparently you've never experienced a tornado whether in a hurricane or not. Your first step in "taking cover" in a hurricane is staying at home. If you're at WDW, you'll find no safer a location than your resort. I "lucked out" that I was staying at AKL when Ian rolled through. The next step is finding an interior room without windows if a tornado warning is issued.
 
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SourcererMark79

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In the Parks
No
The Orlando area is under a tornado WATCH until 8pm. That means conditions are favorable and to be vigilant.

If a WARNING is issued, a tornado has touched down. Get to a safe area immediately. In Florida that means a room on the lowest level of a building away from windows.

My home was already in the path of two that merged together in May. I was just north of the main path. Here's a high level view of the path. My home is the dot and fortunately escaped any damage. You can bet I hunkered down in the closet underneath my stairs. It was no picnic.

View attachment 806548
Several warnings from the outermost band, none near the parks this afternoon. I'm about 2 hours north and had warnings already but radar indicated, not a spotter. It's heading your way soon.
 

JohnD

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Several warnings from the outermost band, none near the parks this afternoon. I'm about 2 hours north and had warnings already but radar indicated, not a spotter. It's heading your way soon.
Yep. I work for the state ( shocking, I know, living in Tallahassee) and offices are closed tomorrow. The last Cat 1 we had was Hermine in 2016. Doesn't take much to knock out power here. Tallahassee prides itself in being a "canopy city" (trees everywhere). That means fallen trees create power outages. During Hermine, I already had a trip to WDW planned, power was out, and got the hell out of dodge. No such luck this time.
 

Gringrinngghost

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Now Hurricane Debby.

Code:
000
WTNT34 KNHC 050255
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
Hurricane Debby Advisory Number  11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL042024
1100 PM EDT Sun Aug 04 2024

...DEBBY BECOMES A HURRICANE AS IT APPROACHES THE NORTHEASTERN
GULF COAST...
...WILL BRING A MAJOR FLOOD THREAT TO THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED
STATES THIS WEEK...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.6N 84.0W
ABOUT 65 MI...105 KM WSW OF CEDAR KEY FLORIDA
ABOUT 100 MI...160 KM WNW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...985 MB...29.09 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Hurricane Warning has been issued for the Florida Gulf coast from
Suwannee River to Yankeetown.

The Tropical Storm Watch along the coast of South Carolina from the
Savannah River to South Santee River has been changed to a Tropical
Storm Warning.

The Tropical Storm Warning south of Boca Grande has been
discontinued.

The Storm Surge Watch south of Englewood has been discontinued.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast from the middle of Longboat Key northward to Indian
Pass including Tampa Bay
* Georgia and South Carolina coast from the Mouth of the St. Mary's
River to South Santee River South Carolina

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* Florida coast from Englewood northward to the middle of
Longboat Key, including Charlotte Harbor

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast from the Yankeetown to Indian Pass

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Florida coast south of Yankeetown to Boca Grande
* Florida coast from west of Indian Pass to Mexico Beach
* Ponte Vedre Beach to South Santee River South Carolina

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area.  Preparations to protect life
and property should be rushed to completion.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.

A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area.

A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening
inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline. For
a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.

This is a life-threatening situation.  Persons located within these
areas should take all necessary actions to protect life and property
from rising water and the potential for other dangerous conditions.
Promptly follow evacuation and other instructions from local
officials.

A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline. For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National
Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.

Interests elsewhere along the southeastern coast of the United
States should monitor the progress of this system. Additional
watches and warnings will likely be required tonight or Monday.

For storm information specific to your area, including possible
inland watches and warnings, please monitor products issued by your
local National Weather Service forecast office.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1100 PM EDT (0300 UTC), the center of Hurricane Debby was located
near latitude 28.6 North, longitude 84.0 West. Debby is moving
toward the north near 12 mph (19 km/h).  A gradual decrease
in forward speed with a turn toward the northeast and east is
expected on Monday and Tuesday.  On the forecast track, the center
will move across the northeastern Gulf of Mexico tonight and
reach the Florida Big Bend coast Monday morning.  Debby is
then expected to move slowly across northern Florida and southern
Georgia Monday and Tuesday, and be near the Georgia coast by 
Tuesday night.

Data from Air Force and NOAA reconnaissance aircraft indicate that
maximum sustained winds have increased to near 75 mph (120 km/h)
with higher gusts.  Additional strengthening is likely before
Debby reaches the Florida Big Bend coast on Monday.  Weakening is
expected on Monday and Tuesday after Debby moves inland.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 45 miles (75 km) from the
center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 140 miles
(220 km).

The minimum central pressure estimated from reconnaissance
aircraft data is 985 mb (29.09 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key messages for Debby can be found in the Tropical Cyclone
Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO header WTNT44 KNHC.

WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected in the hurricane warning
area by early Monday, with tropical storm conditions beginning
overnight. Tropical storm conditions will continue to spread
northward over the tropical storm warning area along the Florida
Gulf coast through tonight, and begin along portions of the
tropical storm warning area along the Atlantic coast by late
Monday. Tropical storm conditions are expected along the coast of
South Carolina within the tropical storm warning area late
Monday night.

STORM SURGE: The combination of storm surge and tide will cause
normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising waters
moving inland from the shoreline. The water could reach the
following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated areas if
the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...

Yankeetown, FL to Ochlockonee River, FL...6-10 ft
Chassahowitzka, FL to Yankeetown, FL...4-6 ft
Ochlockonee River, FL to Indian Pass, FL...4-6 ft
Middle of Longboat Key, FL to Chassahowitzka, FL...3-5 ft
Tampa Bay...3-5 ft
Mouth of the St. Mary's River to South Santee River, SC...2-4 ft
Middle of Longboat Key, FL to Englewood, FL...2-4 ft

For a complete depiction of areas at risk of storm surge inundation,
please see the National Weather Service Peak Storm Surge Graphic,
available at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?peakSurge.

RAINFALL: Tropical Storm Debby is expected to produce rainfall
totals of 6 to 12 inches, with maximum amounts of 18 inches, across
portions of central and northern Florida and southeastern North
Carolina through Friday morning.  This rainfall will likely result
in areas of considerable flash and urban flooding, with significant
river flooding expected.

Across portions of southeast Georgia and South Carolina, 10 to 20
inches of rainfall, with local amounts to 30 inches, are expected
through Friday morning.  This potentially historic rainfall will
likely result in areas of catastrophic flooding.

For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall and flash flooding
associated with Tropical Storm Debby, please see the National
Weather Service Storm Total Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?rainqpf and the Flash Flood Risk
graphic at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?ero.  For a list of
rainfall observations (and wind reports) associated this storm, see
the companion storm summary at WBCSCCNS4 with the WMO header ACUS44
KWBC or at the following link:
www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/nfdscc4.html.

TORNADOES: A few tornadoes are possible over central and northern
Florida and southern Georgia tonight and Monday.  The threat will
spread northeastward into coastal Georgia and parts of South
Carolina on Monday.

SURF:  Swells generated by Debby are expected to affect much of the
Gulf coast of Florida through Monday.  Swells will begin to affect
the Southeast U.S. coast on Monday and continue through the middle
of the week. These conditions are likely to cause life-threatening
surf and rip current conditions. Please consult products from your
local weather office.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 200 AM EDT.
Next complete advisory at 500 AM EDT.

$$
Forecaster Brown
 
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