News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[SplashJacket]

So its ok to compare the timetable of Velocicoaster to Tron, but not Guardians of the Galaxy to Tron? Riiiight. You do know Universal is owned by Comcast - the bottom rung of efficiency in the entertainment and technological world, right?. Comcast can't Disney.

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VelociCoaster completed its pull through test in September 2020 and opened 10 months later in June 2021

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Guardians completed its pull through test in November 2020 at the earliest and will open 18 months later in May 2022.

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Tron completed its pull through test in March 2022. It’s opening is unknown. If it opens in October, that’s 7 months after its pull through test. Beating the pace of both the aforementioned coasters.

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[strictfoo]

VelociCoaster completed its pull through test in September 2020 and opened 10 months later in June 2021

Guardians completed its pull through test in November 2020 at the earliest and will open 18 months later in May 2022.

Tron completed its pull through test in March 2022. It’s opening is unknown. If it opens in October, that’s 7 months after its pull through test. Beating the pace of both the aforementioned coasters.

Two of those timelines are through the peak of covid. Wouldn't the timeline for the one in Shanghai be a more accurate comparison? That only had a handful of months between pull through and it being open.

 

[Coaster Lover]

If it wasn't , they wouldn't be doing full speed testing with dummies at this stage. We will know by the end of May. I expect most if not all the paving and outside walkway walls to be up.

SDMT started full circuit/full train testing in Dec 2013 and had a grand opening in May of 2014 (5 months later). SDD started full circuit/full train testing in January of 2018 and had a grand opening in June of 2018 (5 months later). Based on those timeliness and nothing else considered, given we saw full circuit/full train testing for Tron start in April of 2022, a Sept/Oct 2022 (5 months later) opening for Tron seems realistic.

 

[gerarar]

From earlier today. Looks like the right side of the canopy was deflated a bit versus on the weekend when it was completely inflated as per bioreconstruct's photos.

In the morning, workers were on that part of the canopy:

Photos come from various livestreams at the MK today.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Well, you'll have to forgive my speculation, but it seems appropriate to post here:

Tokyo Disneyland just announced a redesign of their Space Mountain and Tomorrowland, and it seems to suit the TRON Aesthetic rather well. No word yet on whether they're planning to build a TRON attraction there, but the conversation earlier in this thread about changing the look of WDW's Space Mountain seems to make this piece of art relevant.


Compare it to this piece of concept art for Shanghai's Tron and it's easy to see how these buildings complement each other:

I can't help but wonder now if WDW might be considering a similar reskin of our Space Mountain. I HOPE not, but it seems less far-fetched than ever.

 

[Patcheslee]

From earlier today. Looks like the right side of the canopy was deflated a bit versus on the weekend when it was completely inflated as per bioreconstruct's photos.
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In the morning, workers were on that part of the canopy:
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Photos come from various livestreams at the MK today.

Can they install the edge pieces with it inflated?

 

[JoeCamel]

Well, you'll have to forgive my speculation, but it seems appropriate to post here:

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Tokyo Disneyland just announced a redesign of their Space Mountain and Tomorrowland, and it seems to suit the TRON Aesthetic rather well. No word yet on whether they're planning to build a TRON attraction there, but the conversation earlier in this thread about changing the look of WDW's Space Mountain seems to make this piece of art relevant.


Compare it to this piece of concept art for Shanghai's Tron and it's easy to see how these buildings complement each other:

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I can't help but wonder now if WDW might be considering a similar reskin of our Space Mountain. I HOPE not, but it seems less far-fetched than ever.

They need to fix the ride before the envelope

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

They need to fix the ride before the envelope

Sounds like Tokyo intends to do both.

I recognize the likelihood that WDW intends to do nothing.

 

[Coaster Lover]

I can't help but wonder now if WDW might be considering a similar reskin of our Space Mountain. I HOPE not, but it seems less far-fetched than ever.

Disney does like to do the whole "Copy"/"Paste" thing a lot as of recently. I know OLC is finicky about letting other Disney parks use designs that were developed for that park, but given that this is Space Mountain, maybe WDI worked something out with them? However. If they can get past any exclusivity that Tokyo may have wanted, not sure how willing they may be to throw $440 million at another Tomorrowland coaster so soon (crazy that this thing is costing nearly as much as GotG...)

Though I guess it also begs the question if any of this new Space Mountain will share any design features with GotG (same ride system? Same projection system? etc), which may make it less desirable as a direct copy/paste replacement for WDW's Space Mountain.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Well, you'll have to forgive my speculation, but it seems appropriate to post here:

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Tokyo Disneyland just announced a redesign of their Space Mountain and Tomorrowland, and it seems to suit the TRON Aesthetic rather well. No word yet on whether they're planning to build a TRON attraction there, but the conversation earlier in this thread about changing the look of WDW's Space Mountain seems to make this piece of art relevant.


Compare it to this piece of concept art for Shanghai's Tron and it's easy to see how these buildings complement each other:

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I can't help but wonder now if WDW might be considering a similar reskin of our Space Mountain. I HOPE not, but it seems less far-fetched than ever.

But I was informed that the idea that Disney would ever touch a ride as "iconic" as Space Mountain was absolutely absurd...

It's certainly possible that WDW's SM gets a similar makeover to bring it into line with the neighboring Tron. The problem with that, of course, is that SM and Tron are already very, very similar rides, and making them MORE similar solves nothing. I think this is instead a worrying acknowledgement that Disney considers SM and Tron interchangeable, which bodes ill for SM after Tron opens. In any case, its proof that the one element of SM folks were sure could was untouchable, the exterior structure, is very touchable indeed. I think WDW's reluctance to build much of anything is SM's best chance now.

As for the look of the ride, Tokyo DL is obviously the most consistently excellent park in the Disney chain and possibly in the world, but I'm not wild about this new look. It seems likely to become outdated just as quickly as any other contemporary vision of the future - and that second node sort of strikes me as a pimple on SM's shoulder. I've always thought the best way to go with Tomorrowland was to fully commit to a retro look, either WDW's Buck Rogers-esque aesthetic or Paris' Jules Verne-y take.

 

[Incomudro]

I'm not going to lie, TRON with Space Mountain's lighting looks exceptional. Imagine when it gets its own.

MK is about to feel a lot fresher.
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Tron is going to look fantastic there, especially at night.
It's really needed in Tomorrowland.

 

[fgmnt]

They need to fix the ride before the envelope

Probably the thread for it, but management focused on anything beyond the next quarter would put walls up at the door of Space Mountain the day Tron opens and retrack from scratch in time for the 50th anniversary of the attraction. More likely the park will ring in the 50th of Space Mountain with a major ride fault than a worthy refurbishment.

 

[UNCgolf]

The lighting etc. is still going to have a problem -- one that underlines how poorly this was placed. It's really only going to be visible from a handful of places. You won't even be able to see it from half of Tomorrowland.

 

[James Alucobond]

The lighting etc. is still going to have a problem -- one that underlines how poorly this was placed. It's really only going to be visible from a handful of places. You won't even be able to see it from half of Tomorrowland.

I have to imagine they intend to resolve this whenever they finally get around to modifying the Speedway. The queue facade needlessly blocks some of the potential best views.

 

[UNCgolf]

I have to imagine they intend to resolve this whenever they finally get around to modifying the Speedway. The queue facade needlessly blocks some of the potential best views.

Even with the facade, I think the Speedway (and the path around it) is probably the best spot for views. There are things in the way basically everywhere else unless you're right in front of the building.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

But I was informed that the idea that Disney would ever touch a ride as "iconic" as Space Mountain was absolutely absurd...

It's certainly possible that WDW's SM gets a similar makeover to bring it into line with the neighboring Tron. The problem with that, of course, is that SM and Tron are already very, very similar rides, and making them MORE similar solves nothing. I think this is instead a worrying acknowledgement that Disney considers SM and Tron interchangeable, which bodes ill for SM after Tron opens. In any case, its proof that the one element of SM folks were sure could was untouchable, the exterior structure, is very touchable indeed. I think WDW's reluctance to build much of anything is SM's best chance now.

As for the look of the ride, Tokyo DL is obviously the most consistently excellent park in the Disney chain and possibly in the world, but I'm not wild about this new look. It seems likely to become outdated just as quickly as any other contemporary vision of the future - and that second node sort of strikes me as a pimple on SM's shoulder. I've always thought the best way to go with Tomorrowland was to fully commit to a retro look, either WDW's Buck Rogers-esque aesthetic or Paris' Jules Verne-y take.

The fans say Tommorowland is severely outdated, but then they can't touch a classic like Space Mountain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[UNCgolf]

The fans say Tommorowland is severely outdated, but then they can't touch a classic like Space Mountain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I don't see the issue. Space Mountain is not Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland itself can be outdated and need changes without meaning every single thing in it needs to change.

 

[fgmnt]

The fans say Tommorowland is severely outdated, but then they can't touch a classic like Space Mountain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Management has not committed sufficient investment into any redesign of the land since the first major attempt at a redesign; i think the reticence to any redesigns at this point is well founded.

 

[Bocabear]

The last real redo of the land had lots of eye candy and a couple new attractions...a coherent theme... or close to it. All in all it was not bad, but as things broke and were never replaced or updated, the area became stale... The attractions that supported the thematics of the area were shuttered, and then it just made no sense... The purple wall and silver rocks refresh was ridiculously too little and just not well done. There is no reason the Walt Disney company's money-making flagship park should not always be perfect, current , and jaw droppingly creative... seriously. The company built their reputation for excellence doing what they don't seem to be able to do now at all...sad

 

[ToTBellHop]

It’s been 4 years of construction and I can guarantee we are past the halfway point.