News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

huwar18

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Which is it? Looking alike does not mean something could be “themed” to something else. That only works if Theme is mostly about aesthetics.

I did quote you’re whole post and you didn’t get it. The little up arrow next to user names takes people to a post if they wish to see the entire post.

Honestly, when it comes to a Roller Coaster attraction theme is typically based on the aesthetics. You might not agree with that. However, the attraction does not set up a story line at all. It is not like an attraction like the CoP or other dark rides that tell a story.
 

Maeryk

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*Sits on bench outside of Test Track a few years from now*

*Couple exits out of Test Track*

Person 1: Man, that Tron ride was so great!
Person 2: Yea i agree, but we werent riding on light cycles like shown in the promo!
Person 1: Oh well, let's just go to Hollywood Studios and walk through Harry Potter Land.

*eats Dolewhip shamefully*
The only unbelievable part is the bench.
 

lazyboy97o

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Honestly, when it comes to a Roller Coaster attraction theme is typically based on the aesthetics. You might not agree with that. However, the attraction does not set up a story line at all. It is not like an attraction like the CoP or other dark rides that tell a story.
TRON Lightcycle Power Run does have a story. I’m not a fan of the attraction, but it does have a premise. Test Track also has a story, one that probably isn’t communicated too well but also present. The digital world aspect of Test Track is not the important part of its story, it’s an easy way to get around everyone having a different vehicle design. Switching Test Track to TRON would be the hackneyed way of every armchair Imagineer making something fit by having Character X explaining Subject Y.
 

Maeryk

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TRON Lightcycle Power Run does have a story. I’m not a fan of the attraction, but it does have a premise. Test Track also has a story, one that probably isn’t communicated too well but also present. The digital world aspect of Test Track is not the important part of its story, it’s an easy way to get around everyone having a different vehicle design. Switching Test Track to TRON would be the hackneyed way of every armchair Imagineer making something fit by having Character X explaining Subject Y.

They also got around dealing with loss of/acquisition of various brands by GM. I mean, half the display stuff in the old Test Track were Saturns.. which GM killed. It's simple enough to alter the CG interactive parts of the ride to reflect changes (should they ever want to ) in the design of vehicles. The rework made it more timeless. Even if I'm not a huge fan of the neon/grid appearance of it.
 

draybook

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Wait, did someone actually say the fan base for Tron is small?

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Gatorboy

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While I am thankful that this is something new being built and not just taking over an existing attraction... I have never liked the same attractions at different Disney Parks. Use the same ride type/tech and at least theme it to something different(or be Old-time Disney creative and theme to something completely original), for a somewhat different experience.
Indy vs Dinosaur, I'd rather have the clone
 

huwar18

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TRON Lightcycle Power Run does have a story. I’m not a fan of the attraction, but it does have a premise. Test Track also has a story, one that probably isn’t communicated too well but also present. The digital world aspect of Test Track is not the important part of its story, it’s an easy way to get around everyone having a different vehicle design. Switching Test Track to TRON would be the hackneyed way of every armchair Imagineer making something fit by having Character X explaining Subject Y.

I am mainly talking about Tron. The problem with Tron is that you need to know about the movies to know the story of the ride. The rider needs to have background knowledge to figure out the ride. How many people riding Tron in the MK (who are not older) are going to know what the ride is really about? In my opinion, not a lot. I agree with you about Tron and Test Track. That is why I liked the old Test Track. The theme was easier for people to "see".
 

Maeryk

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I am mainly talking about Tron. The problem with Tron is that you need to know about the movies to know the story of the ride. The rider needs to have background knowledge to figure out the ride. How many people riding Tron in the MK (who are not older) are going to know what the ride is really about? In my opinion, not a lot. I agree with you about Tron and Test Track. That is why I liked the old Test Track. The theme was easier for people to "see".

I think you are overthinking it. Btm and sm seem to do just fine, with no movie to support their fanbase.
 

huwar18

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I think you are overthinking it. Btm and sm seem to do just fine, with no movie to support their fanbase.

They rides have back stories and visual theming to support stories. They don't need movies. I might be looking too much into it. What I am saying is the Tron ride doesn't even have visual support for a story.
 

Maeryk

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They rides have back stories and visual theming to support stories. They don't need movies. I might be looking too much into it. What I am saying is the Tron ride doesn't even have visual support for a story.

I think there will be enough to get people into it.. the people who need "theming" over "Look! Big shiny futurecoaster!". I'm not sure how it works in Shanghai, but are the English portions of the spiel/queue identical to the Chinese portions? As far as content and wording?

Also, I would expect some changes in theming and such to appeal to the audience in Florida. Disney does quite a bit of advance work to try to tailor things to it's most likely audience. There's no reason (and it's been hinted at that it won't be), for it to be a cookie cutter clone.
 

huwar18

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I think there will be enough to get people into it.. the people who need "theming" over "Look! Big shiny futurecoaster!". I'm not sure how it works in Shanghai, but are the English portions of the spiel/queue identical to the Chinese portions? As far as content and wording?

Also, I would expect some changes in theming and such to appeal to the audience in Florida. Disney does quite a bit of advance work to try to tailor things to it's most likely audience. There's no reason (and it's been hinted at that it won't be), for it to be a cookie cutter clone.

That's what I am not sure about. The videos in the queue might explain more about the ride.
 

fngoofy

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I still think it's the perfect place for an updated terrain ride. I think the problem with it as it sits is that every podunk park has a "drive it yourself" car ride for the kids. Heck, there's one at Knoebels, and it interacts with a roller coaster. TS just sticks out like a sore thumb.. it has no theming, it's 50 year old (or more) tech... I have no idea why it has held on as long as it has.
Because kids like it.
 

draybook

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I am mainly talking about Tron. The problem with Tron is that you need to know about the movies to know the story of the ride. The rider needs to have background knowledge to figure out the ride. How many people riding Tron in the MK (who are not older) are going to know what the ride is really about? In my opinion, not a lot. I agree with you about Tron and Test Track. That is why I liked the old Test Track. The theme was easier for people to "see".


How many people know about Song of the South? Now how many people like Splash Mountain? If it appeals to people, the back story won't matter.
 

huwar18

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How many people know about Song of the South? Now how many people like Splash Mountain? If it appeals to people, the back story won't matter.

Splash Mountain is basically a dark ride. The AAs are telling the story while you are going through the ride. The ride has a story built into it. I am not talking about seeing a movie before the ride. I am talking about theme and background content.

If Disney didn't care about back story, they wouldn't be making immersive lands. They know people would rather go into the story/movie than just ride a ride based on a movie.
 
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Maeryk

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Too bad the MK version of this ride will NEVER have this few of people riding it. *sigh*.

LOL. You aren't looking at the queue.. you are basically looking at the path near the ride in those shots. That's like saying there's no line for Star Tours because it's not out past the FP checkin.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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How many people know about Song of the South? Now how many people like Splash Mountain? If it appeals to people, the back story won't matter.
Back story wont matter with Splash because at some point it will be rethemed. If Disney doesnt like the redhead in pirates, you know good and well Splash's days with current theming are numbered.
 

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