If that is a "show up at the terminal and arrive at MCO" in 3 hours that will shave a grand total of about 20-30 minutes off the drive. I am thinking that is just transit time which would make it slower than driving.
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Train to Port Canaveral possible
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Tonka's Skipper
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As I said a year ago this was in transportation news, and the federal and/ or state high speed was only Tampa to PC and that plan died. After ward this story popped up. I do not think its a done deal, but parts at least are in place.
Time will tell.
AKK
Thank you for that!
Disney needs to get involved here and work with this company and also maybe the company planning the maglev (if that advances). The president of AAF being a former Disney exec may make it easier.
Tonka's Skipper
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Your entitled to your opinion........last I heard this was a discussion forum on possible things, not only guaranteed things.
The Miami station is about to break ground. Three hours is a heck of a lot faster than the current Amtrak service. Any way, I was talking about the section of track planned for Central Florida, not the South Florida portion that will have to go slow because it will pass a hundred or so gate crossings. The section from Coco Beach to OIA will be brand new track and hardly any gate crossings, if any, enabling it the maximum speed.
Great. It is faster than the current train. It is still slower than that thing nearly every person in America has sitting in their driveway.
I was so upset when our sorry excuse for a governor cancelled the Florida HSR project. It would have been a lot faster than AAF. If AAF was running now, I would use it like now for a day trip to WDW (from West Palm). I've been planning on going recently, but I keep delaying it because gas prices are off the charts. Besides gas, it's nice to let someone else do the driving and spend that time reading the Internet on my iPad - especially a trip that distance!
But that's not the topic here. The topic is the possibility for Disney to exploit the new tracks to Coco Beach and direct service from WDW to the cruise ships...
If no one is riding it because it is no faster than driving, Disney will have nothing to exploit.
Believe you me people will ride it or the FEC would not be spending $1.5 billion!
Victor Kelly
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Elevated high speed seems like the best option, no crossings, speed can be maintained, better able to stay on schedule. If the track is elevated that will almost eliminate delays. It would be very nice to have a train from OIA to WDW if you were not renting a car. But we always rent a car so we are not locked to the property and its terrible internal transportation.
Trust me I love trains, especially since I love model railroads. But I am not sure a ground based system will be any better than a car.
Trust me I love trains, especially since I love model railroads. But I am not sure a ground based system will be any better than a car.
Yes, because no one has ever shelled out big bucks on an idea that did not work before.
Motorola Satellite phone. $8 billion dollar loss.
bsiev1977
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Because companies never spend money on unnecessary, wasteful projects.........
Plus, with a project like that, i'm sure there would be some kind of tax breaks or subsidies involved.
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As do I, but it is the mark that needs to be reached to get people to use it. Do you think the airlines would book a single passenger if a trip from LAX to MCO took more time and cost more than driving?
sweetpee_1993
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I'm not sure connecting to WDW property would be the best idea for DCL. It would create opportunity for would-be DCL passengers at Port Canaveral to "jump ship" and opt for one of RCI's mammoth vessels. There are so many new, amazing ships that sail from Ft.Lauderdale. I honestly would think connecting WDW to that port could create an option that could pull away some guests from DCL.
muteki
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Cost is a separate issue. If the trip was slower but cost less then yes, I think they would. Aspects such as cost, safety, convenience, environmental benefits...many things need to be taken into consideration, even if it does take longer (which it may/may not). The cost of driving is ever increasing, and is only going to get worse.
Wow, they lost $8 billion on that! We'll just have to wait and see, I suppose. They've studied this internally and believe it will be profitable. As I said, let's wait and see. I think it will be successful. I don't like the fact that it won't be elevated or that it will use diesel. I do like the new track section planned. I do like the Miami station plan that will connect directly to Metrorail and Metromover and there they do plan on elevating the tracks. I like the fact that there'll be a station in West Palm Beach, my town.Yes, because no one has ever shelled out big bucks on an idea that did not work before.
Motorola Satellite phone. $8 billion dollar loss.
That's a good point. I didn't think about that. I guess most would have pre purchased a vacation package.
That is the thing, current trains do not cost less. Quite frequently they cost more and that is on government subsidized Amtrak. (Flight from MCO to LAX $400 10 hours round trip. Car for same trip $680 36 hours round trip. Train for same trip $704 166 hours round trip.) If a private company can figure out how to cut costs and not get subsidies then my hat is off to them.
There's a company planning an elevated monorail maglev people mover that will connect OIA, Florida Mall, the convention center, medical city, and end just outside WDW. The Central Florida Metropolitan Planning Association has approved the project.