Toy Story Land

[crawale]

Unbelievable that there is no shade in Toy Story Land. Only covered areas are the restrooms. We spent from 4th September to 13th September at Disney and this part of the park was the worst with heat indexes over 100 degrees. We live in Florida so we were not surprised at the temperature at this time of year. The lack of shade though DID surprise us. The tiny umbrella shades are totally inadequate. What went wrong here Disney? Surely there could have been an indoor seating area for Woody's Lunch Box or even a covered shop as opposed to souvenir carts. Very poorly planned.

 

[Chef Mickey]

It's a travesty the entire thing is outdoors with no AC in the queues. I was there for 10 days in late August and it was uncomfortable and un-Disney.

Actually, it's not a travesty...it's simple budget decisions.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It's a travesty the entire thing is outdoors with no AC in the queues. I was there for 10 days in late August and it was uncomfortable and un-Disney.

Actually, it's not a travesty...it's simple budget decisions.

Un-Disney??? You have got to be kidding me. Early eighty's we stood our in the sun for hours to ride 20K, Peter pan, Mr. Toad had outside queue's as well as Dumbo, Teacups, Carousel and most of speedway was outside. Many of the shows were outside in the open. And places like Jungle cruise had limited shelter and that was packed into a small open sided building with hundreds of 98.6 degree people crammed together with random ceiling fans blowing hot air down on you. This is nothing new nor was it anything other then expected, but, today's "population cannot handle it. Even HM had an outdoor queue with random fans covered eventually, but, still outside. It might be my memory but the only place that I can remember that had the majority of the queue inside in AC was Pirates and HoP. It is helpful to have the cover, but, external AC in queues or fully covered queue lines were never a reality.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Un-Disney??? You have got to be kidding me. Early eighty's we stood our in the sun for hours to ride 20K, Peter pan, Mr. Toad had outside queue's as well as Dumbo, Teacups, Carousel and most of speedway was outside. Many of the shows were outside in the open. And places like Jungle cruise had limited shelter and that was packed into a small open sided building with hundreds of 98.6 degree people crammed together with random ceiling fans blowing hot air down on you. This is nothing new nor was it anything other then expected, but, today's "population cannot handle it. Even HM had an outdoor queue with random fans covered eventually, but, still outside. It might be my memory but the only place that I can remember that had the majority of the queue inside in AC was Pirates and HoP. It is helpful to have the cover, but, external AC in queues or fully covered queue lines were never a reality.

The Un-Disney part is somewhat unrelated to the outdoor conditions, although the no show buildings and completely outdoor queues scream cheap.

Even with AC, the land is still a total miss for me.

 

[NickMaio]

Un-Disney??? You have got to be kidding me. Early eighty's we stood our in the sun for hours to ride 20K, Peter pan, Mr. Toad had outside queue's as well as Dumbo, Teacups, Carousel and most of speedway was outside. Many of the shows were outside in the open. And places like Jungle cruise had limited shelter and that was packed into a small open sided building with hundreds of 98.6 degree people crammed together with random ceiling fans blowing hot air down on you. This is nothing new nor was it anything other then expected, but, today's "population cannot handle it. Even HM had an outdoor queue with random fans covered eventually, but, still outside. It might be my memory but the only place that I can remember that had the majority of the queue inside in AC was Pirates and HoP. It is helpful to have the cover, but, external AC in queues or fully covered queue lines were never a reality.

Ok so we are back in the 80's now.
With ticket prices skyrocketing. Outdoor cues or cues eith no AC and shade are simply unacceptable.
So cheap and careless on WDW's part.
We did not go with pur LO last summer, I am glad now we avoided it.

 

[marni1971]

Un-Disney??? You have got to be kidding me. Early eighty's we stood our in the sun for hours to ride 20K, Peter pan, Mr. Toad had outside queue's as well as Dumbo, Teacups, Carousel and most of speedway was outside. Many of the shows were outside in the open. And places like Jungle cruise had limited shelter and that was packed into a small open sided building with hundreds of 98.6 degree people crammed together with random ceiling fans blowing hot air down on you. This is nothing new nor was it anything other then expected, but, today's "population cannot handle it. Even HM had an outdoor queue with random fans covered eventually, but, still outside. It might be my memory but the only place that I can remember that had the majority of the queue inside in AC was Pirates and HoP. It is helpful to have the cover, but, external AC in queues or fully covered queue lines were never a reality.

It’s very un-Disney. That’s why the issues are being addressed from a high level as a matter of urgency.

It’s been recognised as a royal c@ck up.

Remember.... HOP and HM come summer 1972? For example.

 

[Rumrunner]

Unbelievable that there is no shade in Toy Story Land. Only covered areas are the restrooms. We spent from 4th September to 13th September at Disney and this part of the park was the worst with heat indexes over 100 degrees. We live in Florida so we were not surprised at the temperature at this time of year. The lack of shade though DID surprise us. The tiny umbrella shades are totally inadequate. What went wrong here Disney? Surely there could have been an indoor seating area for Woody's Lunch Box or even a covered shop as opposed to souvenir carts. Very poorly planned.

At least you would think in the summer they would leave the park open later so patrons could enjoy the park in the cool of late evening. Closing so early just smacks of cheap to me and now TL appearing to be a bit cheap.

And ticket prices will be going up again next year right on schedule. Nothing cheap about that.

 

[TheGuyThatMakesSwords]

Dear wife and I LOVE TSL. Now, we aren't getting anywhere near it . BUT - it's a GREAT "Crowd Sponge" .

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I'll say...my first visit was late August. Going back in 2 weeks. My first impression was.....uneventful (nothing bad-nothing good). Which to me is a cause for concern.

It had somewhat of a state fair feel to it. Much better than an actual state fair. But the vibe was there.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

It’s been recognised as a royal c@ck up.

Remember.... HOP and HM come summer 1972? For example.

Just curious as to corrective measures. They can't come out and redo the whole land.......can they? Or is it just.....fix it up a bit and let's start talking Star Wars? I'm thinking without some major things added (redone) - This may not last more than a decade and a half.

 

[Patcheslee]

As someone who burns with SPF 10000000 applied every 30 minutes, I may skip the area next visit or take it in small doses.
Or maybe they plan to sell giant cowboy and cowgirl hats???

 

[Chef Mickey]

It’s very un-Disney. That’s why the issues are being addressed from a high level as a matter of urgency.

It’s been recognised as a royal c@ck up.

Remember.... HOP and HM come summer 1972? For example.

Anymore you can say about what things are being addressed and how? Are you speaking primarily about the outdoor everything in TSL?

Not sure what they thought would happen in rain, heat, etc. Its almost like TSL was built for the California market over at Paradise Pier. Again, how was this ever approved?

 

[Stripes]

It’s very un-Disney. That’s why the issues are being addressed from a high level as a matter of urgency.

It’s been recognised as a royal c@ck up.

Remember.... HOP and HM come summer 1972? For example.

Hopefully they learn not to do it again.

 

[yaksplat]

All of the recent queues are interesting. Things to press, stuff to do, interesting things to look at. TSL is the antithesis of all that. The queues are nothing more than switchbacks with nothing. Anything that could be pushed doesn't do anything. Watch people in line. They all expect the buttons to do something while standing there sweating.

Peter pan has an amazing queue. I actually enjoy spending 20 minutes in there. Not 70 mind you, but an early morning 20.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, they already had to address the flimsy, easily breakable plastic fences and replace them with metal ones.

I imagine there will be a lot more shade for the queues and maybe a fuller roof for the eating area rather than rely on umbrellas.

 

[marni1971]

Anymore you can say about what things are being addressed and how? Are you speaking primarily about the outdoor everything in TSL?

Not sure what they thought would happen in rain, heat, etc. Its almost like TSL was built for the California market over at Paradise Pier. Again, how was this ever approved?

You pretty much answered your own question. Primarily outdoor none attraction issues are being addressed. It’s too early to say what will happen but one would hope for complete queue covering with forced air at the very least. One would also hope for enclosed eating space for the serving windows; only then can it be considered a QSR.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

I saw the Shanghai version in the spring and that's when I started to worry. While this looks a bit better, both looked way too open to the elements...and I wonder if the DHS version will follow suit and be less crowded in a year

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I'd assume they are taking a "things learned" approach here - and ensuring those issues will not be prevalent in SWL..............or is that too much to hope for?

 

[Damon7777]

I'd assume they are taking a "things learned" approach here -

17 years ago out west Disney did it on the cheap and thought they could get away with it. After a lackluster opening and ridicule Disney tried a quick fix with a Tower of Terror install but still the numbers were disappointing at DCA.
Carsland and a new park entry finally got guests excited.

**Going cheap can be expensive**

 

[Damon7777]

On its relatively tiny footprint Star Wars will be well funded and fully immersive, likely surpassing Diagon and Navi in saturating the guest in detail after detail. You need not worry about a lack of AC and proper shade.

Galaxy Edge quality of product will not be an issue with 98% of guests but its lack of size and number of attractions will be a huge concern to countless.