DHS Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

HauntedMansionFLA

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It was made up but it is just as legitimate as the other guesses and accusations that are being thrown about. And the rest of you can confirm that that they are delayed because Disney is a large group of highly successful, yet incompetent, a-holes and we, sitting at our computers either at home or our mothers basement, know more about the theme park business then they do. Funny how that works isn't it.
If that were true, you would be VP of Disney Parks and they would be in your mom's basement. Just because you want The Walt Disney Company to build new rides all of the time means your more competent than the current executives. There's alittle more to it than that I'm afraid.
 

Mawg

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It was made up but it is just as legitimate as the other guesses and accusations that are being thrown about. And the rest of you can confirm that that they are delayed because Disney is a large group of highly successful, yet incompetent, a-holes and we, sitting at our computers either at home or our mothers basement, know more about the theme park business then they do. Funny how that works isn't it.
I'm glad you added to this by saying your reason was also made up because it did not sound like it in your original post.
So far all we do know is that someone said on here that the original plans are still in flux and something else very small may be added, I cannot confirm this as I'm no insider so time will tell, but the project doesn't seem to be full steam yet, so something is going on. I think it is only human nature to speculate as to why. I will give my speculation and say someone is finally wising up to the realization that 12 acres is a lot of space to just added two small cheap attractions and 3 small cheap attractions would be better. It's not going to be scrapped for a Pixarland which many of us would wish for. This land needs to solve some capacity issues while other areas are being built and reworked and the current plans they have don't seem like they would help much. I'm going to speculate further and say that constant battles on the GMR and ToT changing and imagineers having ammo as to why these can't be closed have created significant discussions as to if Toy Story Land additions are really going to help this park in the short term.
 

Goofyernmost

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If that were true, you would be VP of Disney Parks and they would be in your mom's basement. Just because you want The Walt Disney Company to build new rides all of the time means your more competent than the current executives. There's alittle more to it than that I'm afraid.
I'm sorry, but, I do not understand that post at all. What or who are talking about or the point you are trying to make. But, feel free to swing away. I've never said any such thing... in fact, the exact opposite. What I don't do is fire off the "incompetent" bomb toward Disney executives when I don't have any idea how to make it work. It is all opinion from us. And if we were that smart we would be to busy counting our money to be spending time on the interwebs.

Just for the record, my mother is dead. I don't live in her basement, but, I do sit at my computer at home because it only takes a few minutes a day to keep track of my vast fortune.
 

Mawg

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I'm sorry, but, I do not understand that post at all. What or who are talking about or the point you are trying to make. But, feel free to swing away. I've never said any such thing... in fact, the exact opposite. What I don't do is fire off the "incompetent" bomb toward Disney executives when I don't have any idea how to make it work. It is all opinion from us. And if we were that smart we would be to busy counting our money to be spending time on the interwebs.

Just for the record, my mother is dead. I don't live in her basement, but, I do sit at my computer at home because it only takes a few minutes a day to keep track of my vast fortune.
I think he is more replying to the tone of some of your posts.
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm glad you added to this by saying your reason was also made up because it did not sound like it in your original post.
So far all we do know is that someone said on here that the original plans are still in flux and something else very small may be added, I cannot confirm this as I'm no insider so time will tell, but the project doesn't seem to be full steam yet, so something is going on. I think it is only human nature to speculate as to why. I will give my speculation and say someone is finally wising up to the realization that 12 acres is a lot of space to just added two small cheap attractions and 3 small cheap attractions would be better. It's not going to be scrapped for a Pixarland which many of us would wish for. This land needs to solve some capacity issues while other areas are being built and reworked and the current plans they have don't seem like they would help much. I'm going to speculate further and say that constant battles on the GMR and ToT changing and imagineers having ammo as to why these can't be closed have created significant discussions as to if Toy Story Land additions are really going to help this park in the short term.
Of course something is going on... they haven't really started yet. Who makes up this time chart? You? Do you know all the in's and out's of how to build theme park lands that you know that everything that has to be done, has to be modeled, designed and fabricated to make a smooth build operation happen? Do they dig a hole, close down for a week waiting for specialty construction materials to be made and delivered?

Perhaps you time it so it all goes together and is in a very strict sequence of build to prevent unnecessary waiting and wasted time? Because that is how all construction is handled. Disney doesn't send a group of go-fers out to Home Depot to pick up a couple of 2 X 4's as they need them. It's a process and a precise process. So get upset, if you must, over the time it takes to build this highly technical, specialized areas, but, you will be frustrated for no reason at all.
 

Mawg

Well-Known Member
Of course something is going on... they haven't really started yet. Who makes up this time chart? You? Do you know all the in's and out's of how to build theme park lands that you know that everything that has to be done, has to be modeled, designed and fabricated to make a smooth build operation happen? Do they dig a hole, close down for a week waiting for specialty construction materials to be made and delivered?

Perhaps you time it so it all goes together and is in a very strict sequence of build to prevent unnecessary waiting and wasted time? Because that is how all construction is handled. Disney doesn't send a group of go-fers out to Home Depot to pick up a couple of 2 X 4's as they need them. It's a process and a precise process. So get upset, if you must, over the time it takes to build this highly technical, specialized areas, but, you will be frustrated for no reason at all.
You're right. please excuse me.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Is the notion that Toy Story Land will be cancelled just fan speculation, or has it been legitimately hinted at by those in the know? Those insightful responses throughout this thread have been few and far between.

There is no reason to believe it has been canceled at this point. We have seen construction permits, and the latest aerial photos do show work going on back there.

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rle4lunch

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You're right. please excuse me.

lol, don't capitulate. maybe Disney should have their ducks in a row before announcing a project so that they can have it ready to go beforehand rather than doing some sort of half-assed backpedaling after the fact and pushing start dates all over the place all the time?
 

admiral-ari-x

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I really doubt they'd shut it down, especially with the headlines it made when the project was announced (at D23, no less). But it would be very nice to figure out what exactly is going on with the project now.

On another note, Mike S, I saw your dream DHS and I have gunning for a Toontown/Roger Rabbit since the day I was born! I even sent the idea to an imagineer when I was younger- imagine how heartbroken I was when they said no outside ideas :joyfull:
 

Mawg

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lol, don't capitulate. maybe Disney should have their ducks in a row before announcing a project so that they can have it ready to go beforehand rather than doing some sort of half-assed backpedaling after the fact and pushing start dates all over the place all the time?
Some fights just aren't worth fighting.
I'm willing to give them some slack on pushing start dates and it really does not frustrate me. How many times has Disney had to rebuild a complete park? You could say DCA, but this seems like it needs even more re-work than DCA. We are not talking about just adding one or two more lands. Once Star Wars is open this park is not done, a complete re-work could take 8-10 years. They really don't have much experience re-building a whole theme park. I can see how they could think they are ready for this and then longer term thinking changes the plans for something in the short term. I could understand if we see a lot more backpedaling with projects to come until the short term plans fit into a well formulated long term plan. I'm betting we see a lot of the same with Epcot.
 

Next Big Thing

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I believe France took 9 or so months. Not sure exactly, but somewhere around there. But yeah, it was significantly shorter than this.
Did they use an empty piece of land or did they have to clear something for it there? That seems to be what held up this project so much was all the demo and moving things around that needed to happen.
 

Mike S

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I really doubt they'd shut it down, especially with the headlines it made when the project was announced (at D23, no less). But it would be very nice to figure out what exactly is going on with the project now.

On another note, Mike S, I saw your dream DHS and I have gunning for a Toontown/Roger Rabbit since the day I was born! I even sent the idea to an imagineer when I was younger- imagine how heartbroken I was when they said no outside ideas :joyfull:
There is one in Disneyland :)
 

Goofyernmost

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Like how the Studio Backlot Tour has been closed since September 27, 2014 and they've still barely begun on this compared to 9 month builds for similar lands at other parks?

And no, they didn't need to close LMA before they could begin TSL.
I don't understand the point of that. Nothing happened because they didn't want it too. What is so difficult to understand about that. Is there a law that says they have to do something the moment they close something down. They just plain didn't do anything because they just plain didn't want too do anything. It has nothing to do with how long it took to build similar lands, it has everything to do with when they wanted to do something. We can't define a specific time frame as being acceptable or not, and do it with any degree of reality. What exactly is the big deal. They are the ones that stood to lose by delaying any decision and movement, all we did was wait. Do you at home, never delay action on something for whatever reason you may have for delaying it? I'm sorry I just don't understand why when they do something is anything that is owed to us. If we don't agree we simply don't go there. That is the absolute only control we have. If you are a stock holder of significance, you call the board directors and give them hell, otherwise, you have no control at all. Nor is it any of our business how any business is run, if we don't have stock.

And just for the sake of discussion, they didn't close LMA before they began TSL, just not sufficiently for your approval. There is a reason and just because we don't know what it is, doesn't make it invalid.
 

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
I don't understand the point of that. Nothing happened because they didn't want it too. What is so difficult to understand about that. Is there a law that says they have to do something the moment they close something down. They just plain didn't do anything because they just plain didn't want too do anything. It has nothing to do with how long it took to build similar lands, it has everything to do with when they wanted to do something. We can't define a specific time frame as being acceptable or not, and do it with any degree of reality. What exactly is the big deal. They are the ones that stood to lose by delaying any decision and movement, all we did was wait. Do you at home, never delay action on something for whatever reason you may have for delaying it? I'm sorry I just don't understand why when they do something is anything that is owed to us. If we don't agree we simply don't go there. That is the absolute only control we have. If you are a stock holder of significance, you call the board directors and give them hell, otherwise, you have no control at all. Nor is it any of our business how any business is run, if we don't have stock.

And just for the sake of discussion, they didn't close LMA before they began TSL, just not sufficiently for your approval. There is a reason and just because we don't know what it is, doesn't make it invalid.
I wonder a few things on this.

One, does it make sense to start demo on one area, while still planning another? Remember folks SWE was supposed to go one place then they swerved and moved it to the LMA area. So while yes they could have been doing demo for TSL and in that area, for what reason? They still had not locked what was going where.

I get the frustration, but why pay to have a crew come in , do some work, then leave then come back. Seems that would potentially be more expensive.

Now that plans are locked, they are moving and moving pretty well to clear areas.
 

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