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Toy Story Hotel Planned to replace Paradise Pier Hotel?
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Brer Panther
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This one?
I like how the elevator is the box that Buzz came in, but aside from that? Yeesh, this is some ugly concept art...
It DOES look more like a Super Mario hotel than a Toy Story hotel.
Kind of makes me wonder, is there a PIXAR movie that WOULD lend itself better to a hotel than Toy Story?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
You know they named it that on purpose right? That's the joke.OK, OK, enough bickering (and this isn't even the Turning Red forum where this belongs), but at least everybody on all sides can come together on one common point: Disney's first full length feature movie with a menstruation reference being titled "Turning Red" was an unfortunate choice.
(Edited for those literal people who feel the need to parse a childish, sarcastic comment)
WDWJoeG
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If that were true, this would be the greatest movie of all time.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Of course it's true. I thought this was obvious?
Californian Elitist
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I can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not, but it’s likely not true.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It's a puberty movie called "Turning Red."
Californian Elitist
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And the protagonist turns into a red panda, hence the title. It can be argued that “turning red” could be in reference to Meilin’s physical changes when she’s nervous or in distress (blushing). Women don’t turn red when we’re menstruating. Also, red is a symbol for good luck and happiness in Chinese culture.
I could see if the entire movie was centered around Meilin’s first period, but since that reference in the movie is all of maybe 5 minutes long and she *SPOILER ALERT* actually doesn’t get her period, and she experiences many other actually significant events that contribute to her growth, to assume that the title is in reference to her period is far-fetched.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
And why, pray tell, do you think they chose a red panda, as opposed to a giant panda or literally any other animal with significantly more relevance to Chinese culture?
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
She actually talked about why she chose a red panda, and there are various reasons:
Like Mei's classmates in the film, fans have fallen in love with adorable red panda Mei. Shi told the New York Times that the animal's cuteness was part of its appeal. "I wanted Mei to go through a magical puberty transformation, and I couldn’t get the image of a red panda out of my head because it’s so cute and funny, especially if you blow it up to, like, eight feet tall," Shi said. "There’s something about the color, too. Red represents your period. It represents being angry, being embarrassed or being very lustful for someone."
For those curious about how the red panda fits into Chinese mythology, the animal actually doesn't have much of a mythological background. Instead, writer-director Domee Shi told Insider that Pixar chose the red panda in part because pandas don't have a deep mythological background. "I think we wanted the space and the room to come up with a whole legend and a mythology," Shi told the outlet. The red panda being a relative clean slate means that the themes of the film can stand on their own, without other popular myths being added to or conflated with the story.
Source: https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/red-panda-turning-red/
So, yes, there’s a little bit of truth to the period reference, but as you can read here, it doesn’t encompass the entire meaning of the title, like you’re saying.
Californian Elitist
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So, anyways. How about those potential Toy Story towers?
NobodyElse
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I wonder how many more superficial "re-themes" this hotel will go through before that original lease deal expires?
DLR92
Well-Known Member
So true and very sad.From this:
To this:
If I were in imagineering department…I wouldn’t bother to waste my talent to create mediocre ideas from executives wants either. LOL
CaptinEO
Well-Known Member
I'm sure the good talent have all gone elsewhere based on the amateur photoshop esque art that they use now.
Robbiem
Well-Known Member
Does anyone have any details about the hotel lease? Its such a shame that it appears Disney can’t knock this down and build something nicer rather than dressing up the hotel again
josh2000
Well-Known Member
Instead of spending all the money and effort on this crappy retheme, they should dedicate those resources to buying out that lease so they can truly do something worthwhile on the property.
Toy Story as an IP has been absolutely milked to death. There's no more milk left, it's just powder. I'd be happy to never see a new Toy Story project ever again. I'm ready for something new and fresh. Pixar keeps making these new IPs and then Disney does nothing with them!
CaptinEO
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I thought Disney owns the hotel? Do they not own the land?
I think the fact that it's still named after a land thats been gone for 4 years is a testament to what a bad name "Pixar Pier" is.
PiratesMansion
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Someone dug up documents last year in the "proposed expansion of the parks westward" thread that seemed to prove that Disney doesn't own the land under the hotel.
NobodyElse
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I think @Darkbeer1 has at least a conceptual grasp of the situation, if not actual specific details. Perhaps he'll stop by.
TP2000
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They don't. They never have. It's a mess. They still pay royalties to the Japanese development firm that bought the land and built it in 1986. Which is why TDA couldn't get Yamabuki to pencil out and closed it. Also why they closed that Friends 1990's Date Nite restaurant themed to PCH. And it suddenly explains why the sad lobby bar there is staffed by a grumpy, lone CM who hides behind the ice machine until you make her fish a Michelob out of the cooler for you.
That hotel is an embarassing mess. With a light overlay of Seaside Whimsy!
It should be swallowed up by the Newport-Inglewood fault in a decent 6.8 and never heard from again.