top 10 attractions at epcot that need to be removed, or demolished.

Tigerace81

New Member
Tigerrace 81 you have to be kidding. How can you say the following:


"Just wondering, where is Honey I Shrunk the Audience? That needs to go." :hammer: If you don't know where it is you obviously have never seen it and thus have no business saying it should go.:fork: You should have stoped your posts at nine:D

I know where it is, I was saying how is it not on that list of rides that are supposedly the worst in Epcot. Couldn't tell if you were joking or not. Its easily one of the worst rides in the entire resort and needs a replacement big time. Even Six Flags replaces there movies and updates them every now and then but this thing has played the same thing for 14 or 15 years and its flat out boring and really a waste of space now. It could be made into a nice movie if it was seriously re-done into a 5D theater but I doubt it will happen.
 

musketeer

Well-Known Member
Matterhorn is DLR's landmark attraction and needs to stay over there. Some rides aren't meant to be duplicated, and it needs to stay that way.

Who made this rule? Why can't something be duplicated? And what makes something fall into this category? Is it because it is old? Or is it because it is in the Disneyland Park? I don't understand.
 

Tigerace81

New Member
Who made this rule? Why can't something be duplicated? And what makes something fall into this category? Is it because it is old? Or is it because it is in the Disneyland Park? I don't understand.

its not a rule but if WDW had all the rides Disneyland has then why would you go to Disneyland when you could just go to WDW and ride the same rides? It gives you a incentive sort of to go to the different parks because they dont all have the same rides. Sure some classics have been cloned and modified for different parks but they have all been different. DLR's has two across seating, WDW's has single seating. DLP has inversions. They're all different.

Matterhorn is really a DLR landmark attraction and not something that should be duplicated elsewhere like in WDW.
 

musketeer

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Matterhorn is really a DLR landmark attraction and not something that should be duplicated elsewhere like in WDW.

I still don't understand why. No one complains about there being a space mountain in califonia and florida. Same for splash mountain, the haunted mansion, etc, etc, etc.

And hasn't the matterhorn kind of been duplicated anyway? Don't you think that if it were built today, it would be much more like expedition everest?
 

Tigerace81

New Member
Thats actually what I said earlier in this thread. Im fine with Expedition Everest because its sort of the same theme but a different take on it from a different region.

All im saying is if you have the same exact copies of rides at every park then whats the point of going to the other parks? If we had a exact copy of Matterhorn I dont think I would go to DLR except to see the very first Disney park. Matterhorn is something I havent gotten to ride yet and is a very enticing DLR ride to me. If WDW had a exact replica I would put off a DLR trip and just go to WDW since it would be the same ride.

Heres a better example (maybe), if every city had a Empire State Building would you travel all the way to NYC to see the original or just go to the closest one since it would be the same building?
 

misterID

Well-Known Member
its not a rule but if WDW had all the rides Disneyland has then why would you go to Disneyland when you could just go to WDW and ride the same rides? It gives you a incentive sort of to go to the different parks because they dont all have the same rides. Sure some classics have been cloned and modified for different parks but they have all been different. DLR's has two across seating, WDW's has single seating. DLP has inversions. They're all different.

Matterhorn is really a DLR landmark attraction and not something that should be duplicated elsewhere like in WDW.

If people decide not to go to DL because one ride was cloned at WDW... Then that's pretty ridiculous. If it were brought to EPCOT there's a very good chance that it would not be the same ride. And there's so many other reasons to visit the other parks, even DL, besides riding the one and only Matterhorn.

I'm actually more interested in seeing their Pirates, SM and HM to be honest. MH is not on the top of my list.

And tourists are more likely to visit WDW and never visit DL anyway; their biggest clientel are locals. So, I don't see cloning MH or anything else, hurting DL in the slightest.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Original Poster
Is the guy who started this thread obsessed with saying negative crap about WDW attractions and stealing terribly written articles from useless sites?

This exact same, shoddily-written article that he lifted to make this thread is also in his blog: http://hubpages.com/hub/10-WORST-Disney-Rides

Then he made a post somewhere in the middle of a thread as to whether WDW is in dark times or not, and he ripped it directly from this site (scroll down to April 6, 2007).
http://deconstructingdisney.blogspot.com/

Lots of contradictions, shoddily written work. Read the stuff before you just go blindly swinging away in the dark, man!

......sorry???.......


-WondersOfLife

The last original pavilion :king:
 

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
its not a rule but if WDW had all the rides Disneyland has then why would you go to Disneyland when you could just go to WDW and ride the same rides? It gives you a incentive sort of to go to the different parks because they dont all have the same rides. Sure some classics have been cloned and modified for different parks but they have all been different. DLR's has two across seating, WDW's has single seating. DLP has inversions. They're all different.

Matterhorn is really a DLR landmark attraction and not something that should be duplicated elsewhere like in WDW.

If people decide not to go to DL because one ride was cloned at WDW... Then that's pretty ridiculous. If it were brought to EPCOT there's a very good chance that it would not be the same ride. And there's so many other reasons to visit the other parks, even DL, besides riding the one and only Matterhorn.

I'm actually more interested in seeing their Pirates, SM and HM to be honest. MH is not on the top of my list.

And tourists are more likely to visit WDW and never visit DL anyway; their biggest clientel are locals. So, I don't see cloning MH or anything else, hurting DL in the slightest.

I agree with Tigerace here. The Matterhorn is not just a Disneyland, but a Californian landmark. It'd be like cloning Sleeping Beauty Castle to WDW - it would be stealing/cheapening something so hugely significant and original to Disneyland. There is not just the number of tourist dollars at play here - there is also the individuality and distinct image and feel of each resort, which can make a difference to how a guest interprets that park. Does WDW really so desperately need another mountain coaster?

I think Everest did it perfectly: it was clearly inspired by the Matterhorn, but updated it by a good fifty years, and was different enough in theme to make it a distinct, yet similar attraction.

And a single attraction can be incentive enough to make one travel across the country to visit the "other" park. I made my last trip to Disneyland pretty much just because the Finding Nemo Submarines had just opened, although also because I hadn't ridden Indiana Jones on my previous visit. Individual attractions can matter enormously to the differences and appeal between resorts.
 

misterID

Well-Known Member
It matters to certain people, not everyone. Would you have refused to visit DL when they were building Westcot because they would have had "our" SSE?

I would have loved to have seen the differences between the 2. And I think SSE is just as important to WDW as MH is to DL. And a MH in EPCOT would, I'm sure, have its own theme.

Should WDW not get a JTTCOTE ride because its a staple attraction for DisneySea?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Cloning rides can take away the incentive to see other parks. Pirates is the notable exception, *maybe* Space Mountain. Soarin', MV-3D, Splash, Buzz... But since I'm going to visit DL at some point in the future no matter what, I digress. :)

The Matterhorn has not been duplicated anywhere else. And I want it to stay that way.
 

WDW-Crazy

Active Member
I disagree with a few things from your post. I do like Aladdin's Magic Carpets. I think they were very innovative and different than Dumbo (and something we have that Disneyland doesn't). IMO, they need to start adding attractions like this again, instead of the majority being from Disney-Pixar films (like what seems to be happening alot recently - MILF, Toy Story Mania, The Seas, Block Party Bash, etc). Ariel's Undersea Adventure, the Three Cabillaros, are all a step in the right direction, now we need some more rides/attractions similar. I'd love to see an Alice in Wonderland ride get installed in Fantasyland. I bet Disneyland's is pretty good.

While I do not hate the current JII ride, I do miss the original but can't go and downgrade the current version. IMO, the 1999-2001 version is to be downgraded, they even cut Figment from most of the ride except a tiny bit at the end. Evidentally, the Imagineers took notice of this and that's why the current version now exists. I do wish the current Imageworks would be beefed up though. I do miss alot of the old attractions that were upstairs. Perhaps they could move some of them to the first floor (Rainbow Tunnel, Pin Tables, etc).

By the way, shouldn't the topic of this title be "Top Ten Attractions at WDW that need to be removed, or demolished"? I state this since other attractions were originally mentioned besides Epcot.
 

mp2bill

Well-Known Member
#10: Magic Carpets of Aladdin – In an attempt to replicate the Dumbo magic, the Magic Carpets of Aladdin is another in the long line of 2-D spinning rides, they all go around in a circle, and the individual cars can go up and down. Any older than about 3 is bored to death in seconds. On its own, the ride is ok, but with a few others exactly like it in the parks, Disney should have passed on this one.
#9: Triceratops Spin – See #10. Another Dumbo wanna be, but when paired with the horrific Dinoland USA, Triceratops Spin beats out Aladdin for the spin rides.
#8: Honey, I shrunk the audience – for ya'lls sake, i replaced tom sawyer island with this, i forgot about this dump!
#7: frontier land shooting arcade – most of the time the targets dont work.
#6: the enchanted tiki room under new managemnet - decided to mess with the formula, and totally ruined it. Now featuring Iago and Zazu, along with many of the original birds, it just has lost the magic of the original.
#5: Body Wars – OK, I know this ride is closed part time/permanently. It has to be included on the list though, it is/was horrific! A motion simulator similar to Star Tours, you entered the body as a miniature spaceship, and visited several parts of the body via the blood stream. Never a wait, even over Christmas, and nary a decent story line to be fine. It makes most people ill, and I have yet to meet a person who has rode this ride twice in one day.
#4: Circle of Life: An Environmental Fable – This movie is basically just Pumba and Timon from the Lion King added to remnants of Symbiosis, and Environmental film that opened in Epcot during 1982. It seems much older than 26 years, and Disney is missing a huge opportunity to teach and entertain the crowds coming to ride Soarin!
#3: Stitch’s Great Escape – A feeble attempt by Disney brass to turn the unpopular ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter in the Magic Kingdom into something more family friendly. The budget, no matter how much it was, wasn’t enough. This ride is neither entertaining, scary or funny.
#2: Journey Into Imagination – Another remake, this is a really, really bad ride. The original, while not great, was much beloved and miss. Dreamfinder and Figment are still found on t-shirts and stuffed animals throughout Epcot. While Figment has returned in this third itineration, his presence does not save this ride. No lines even during the busiest parts of the year, no interesting parts of the ride, the only reason to ride it is to get out of the heat.
#1: Conservation Station – I don’t know where to start. Who designs a ride that requires that you ride another ride to and from it in order to visit? The Wildlife Express Train that goes back and forth between the Animal Kingdom and Conservation Station is actually cool, you get to see cool backstage areas and who doesn’t love riding on a train? However, once there, they force you off the train, and to the back of the line to return back to the parks. There isn’t anything interesting at Conservation Station, but are often forced to stay there for long periods of time waiting for a return train. Please, never, ever, go to Conservation Station, you will thank me.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT EPCOT FOR THE TITLE! :O

I agree with these...except for Body Wars. I loved that ride, but the last time I was on it was '96.

P.S. everybody - He corrected the EPCOT mistake. Read everything before you make sarcastic remarks
 
Yeah, I gotta step in and give some love to the Circle of Life film. I love that film, very powerful and informative. Yeah, it might be a little dated, but I think it does a good job of making you stop and think. In my opinion it's one of the few truly educaional rides left at Epcot.
 

mike10

New Member
Am I one of the few that actually likes SGE? I never got to try out the Alien version but I would have loved to.

I know some say it's too scary for small kids but my DD is like I was at a younger age and loves that stuff. If anyone remembers that old Leprechaun movie well that became a bunch of dumb ones after Leprechaun 2 my DD loves that movie!

Yes she actually watches it and laughs the entire time. She wants to watch SAW or My Bloody Valentine 3D with my DW and me but I'm stopping her from that she says but I'm not scared of that it's a good movie. Lol I don't see many kids where nothing gives them nightmares so I doubt SGE would do much of anything to her but make her laugh.
 

TheBeatles

Well-Known Member
#7: frontier land shooting arcade – most of the time the targets dont

#1: Conservation Station – I don’t know where to start. Who designs a ride that requires that you ride another ride to and from it in order to visit? The Wildlife Express Train that goes back and forth between the Animal Kingdom and Conservation Station is actually cool, you get to see cool backstage areas and who doesn’t love riding on a train? However, once there, they force you off the train, and to the back of the line to return back to the parks. There isn’t anything interesting at Conservation Station, but are often forced to stay there for long periods of time waiting for a return train. Please, never, ever, go to Conservation Station, you will thank me.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT EPCOT FOR THE TITLE! :O

#7: I was just there this week and every target worked.

#1: While I can't comment on the design and layout, its purpose and message is important to AK and its ideals.
 

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