Too much money and not worth it..

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Haha! I don't know, maybe I ordered the wrong stuff. It was mostly grilled chicken sandwiches. Which is a pretty basic thing.

You certainly don't need to buy things to have fun! I feel like oftentimes people miss that..
I've genuinely never had a grilled chicken sandwich at WDW in hundreds of days at the parks. I don't know why you'd ever get grilled chicken sandwiches, plural. One thing the parks food has going for it at the very least is variety.
 

eliza61nyc

Well-Known Member
You are doing way to much reading between the lines. My point was that it is hard to know what one wants to eat six months from now. They have to look up the restaurants to do an ADR so of course they can see a menu. That isn't the point. The point is that there is no comparison with other options not located onsite. Pricing is done from above, (not heaven) and no matter what one is chosen onsite it will all be extremely costly. And people that have never left the safety net of WDW proper, do not really know how much extra they are paying just to eat.

Just because you have an official budget, does not in any stretch of the imagination mean that everyone does. Especially if they are working with borrowed money that doesn't have to be paid back immediately or come out of accounts immediately. Do I think the most folks are winging it with food prices? Yes, I am saying that. They may look up a restaurant with a type of cuisine that appeals to their pallet, but don't commit to memory the exact thing that they are planning to consume. How many drinks they are going to go through and whether or not dessert is in the picture until they get there. And let's not forget the tips.
But goofy, you're making these people sound like mindless idiots. You mean to telle two functioning adults that go to wdw can't figure out that a 22.00 burger combo is more than they pay off-site. What the heck?? 52 million visitors and no one has EVER gone to a tourist attraction, a beach town, a 6 flags?? No one knows that food prices in tourist spots is more?? He'll you're saying they don't even go to the movies because anyone who's been to a theater has figured out the soda price is jacked up.

So let me understand you that the average visitor gets to Pecos bill orders food for let's say 4 and cannot tell if it's higher than what they pay outside the gates and if they do, they cannot figure out a way to lower the food cost. 😱🤯

Sorry I'm not defending Disney, I truly refuse to believe that all these visitor are mindless idiot zombies that simply hand over a charge card without an inkling of cost.

People let kids endlessly drink sodas?? No one says no?? Wow?! Ok so yeah I'm flabbergasted because parenting has totally changed. See I took 4 young adults last year and it was ridiculously easy. My son asked could he get a beer at lunch one day and I said "you paying for it"?? Lol translation:. Alcohol is not in my budget, I ain't paying for it.
so from what you are saying wdw visitor are incapable of doing that?? Or setting a budget beforehand??

Again I'm shaking my head and a bit of mom brag, I am fully confident that my son's can go to food and wine festival and figure out that getting a beer there is more than at the local watering hole. I have also seen then nurse one drink for hours because they had common sense enough to not blow there entire check at Epcot.
 
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networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
My original comment was regarding quick service meals. When our (young) kids were losing it and we picked whatever was nearby...which is generally how things pan out with kids. You can plan til' you are blue in the face, but when reality strikes you do what ya gotta do.

And if we don't, I will most definitely return to let you guys know :);)

That's a fish of a different stripe. Having a grumpy little one in the midst of a hungry meltdown you don't get much of a choice except right here right now.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
That's a fish of a different stripe. Having a grumpy little one in the midst of a hungry meltdown you don't get much of a choice except right here right now.
That's bad planning. My five year old has been seven or eight times and we've never had a meltdown like that. People need to slow down and make sure their family's basic needs are taken care of or they're not going to have much fun at all.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
But goofy, you're making these people sound like mindless idiots. You mean to telle two functioning adults that go to wdw can't figure out that a 22.00 burger combo is more than they pay off-site. What the heck?? 52 million visitors and no one has EVER gone to a tourist attraction, a beach town, a 6 flags?? No one knows that food prices in tourist spots is more?? He'll you're saying they don't even go to the movies because anyone who's been to a theater has figured out the soda price is jacked up.

So let me understand you that the average visitor gets to Pecos bill orders food for let's say 4 and cannot tell if it's higher than what they pay outside the gates and if they do, they cannot figure out a way to lower the food cost. 😱🤯

Sorry I'm not defending Disney, I truly refuse to believe that all these visitor are mindless idiot zombies that simply hand over a charge card without an inkling of cost.

People letk kidsendlessly drink sodas?? No one says no?? Wow?! Ok so yeah I'm flabbergasted because parenting has totally changed. See I took 4 young adults last year and it was ridiculously easy. My son asked could he get a beer at lunch one day and I said "you paying for it"?? Lol translation:. Alcohol is not in my budget, I ain't paying for it.
so from what you are saying wdw visitor are incapable of doing that?? Or setting a budget beforehand??

Again I'm shaking my head.
I have never said any of those things. You are over generalizing my every statement. Apparently you miss the places where I put in "some people" and just figure I mean everybody except you. And yes, it has been my experience in life that MANY people are mindless idiots, but it doesn't apply here. Of course they know things are cheaper outside. I specifically said the Disney had a high price reputation so they are not surprised to see the high prices. You keep thinking that what you or I might do, everyone is in line with. You are the one that is selling human individuality short. Anyway, it's time to end this endless discussion. You keep twisting everything I put down here into your own definition and I am tired of trying to put it straight. I can't explain or defend the things that I don't say, but you have somehow read into it. So for now we need to just agree to disagree.
 

parkerthebarker

Active Member
Original Poster
That's bad planning. My five year old has been seven or eight times and we've never had a meltdown like that. People need to slow down and make sure their family's basic needs are taken care of or they're not going to have much fun at all.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I could keep going. Every kid is different. We are a very laid back family. We were leisurely with our approach. If heaven forbid, we didn't ride "it's a small world" or get front row spots for a parade, it didn't faze us. We very much fine tuned our approach to ensure happy kids. Our oldest is very sensitive and was overstimulated by everything, regardless. She never throws tantrums, but boy did she on our trip. Afterwards she apologized, and we had an open talk about it all. She said it was too busy and crowded. I know she isn't the only kid feeling that way... even if you are "super parents" and plan your trip perfectly. Sigh.
 

eliza61nyc

Well-Known Member
I have never said any of those things. You are over generalizing my every statement. Apparently you miss the places where I put in "some people" and just figure I mean everybody except you. And yes, it has been my experience in life that MANY people are mindless idiots, but it doesn't apply here. Of course they know things are cheaper outside. I specifically said the Disney had a high price reputation so they are not surprised to see the high prices. You keep thinking that what you or I might do, everyone is in line with. You are the one that is selling human individuality short. Anyway, it's time to end this endless discussion. You keep twisting everything I put down here into your own definition and I am tired of trying to put it straight. I can't explain or defend the things that I don't say, but you have somehow read into it. So for now we need to just agree to disagree.

I apologise, that how it reads. I'm good. I did say initially that I totally disagreed.
I will admit that my "Gene" pool is small. The young adults I know who have small kids also have student loans and new mortgages, they aren't winging wdw vacations. They know how much they can spend and use their smart phones with military precision.
The young adults I work with are notorious cheap, lol they live by Uber and like I said can pull up cheap alternative in 10 secs,

All good
 
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parkerthebarker

Active Member
Original Poster
I apologise, that how it reads. I'm good. I did say initially that I totally disagreed.
I will admit that my "Gene" pool is small. The young adults I know who have small kids also have student loans and new mortgages, they aren't winging wdw vacations. They know how much they can spend and use their smart phones with military precision.
The young adults I work with are notorious cheap, lol they live by Uber and like I said can pull up cheap alternative in 10 secs,

All good
Can I just thank you guys for disagreeing and not being rude?

The latest comment basically dissing our parenting...kind of pushing me over the edge. I came here to ask if others struggled/felt the same way/share my perspective. Not asking for everyone to agree or "validate". There were plenty of opposing opinions that were constructive and insightful. But to blame me and my husband for the way my child perceived the park.. is a bit much.
 

VaderTron

Well-Known Member
Except if I buy my ticket for six flags by me beforehand, I save over 30%. At Disney, you get exactly nothing off for buying a ticket before. So realistically it's $65 dollars per person per day more. That's more than double the cost. And that's assuming you are going to Disney on a "value" day.
You can get a season pass for six flags for under $100 that includes free parking, admission to 13 parks across the country, water parks, and they extend 3 months past the 1 year mark. Sounds nothing like Disney's pricing.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
You can get a season pass for six flags for under $100 that includes free parking, admission to 13 parks across the country, water parks, and they extend 3 months past the 1 year mark. Sounds nothing like Disney's pricing.

That's because Six Flags are about 5000x worse than Disney in quality, though -- even if you think Disney is slacking off (and they are; the parks are nowhere near what they were 25-30 years ago). There's a Six Flags about 25 minutes from me... went once and would never go back. I don't think I'd waste my time going even if I was given a free ticket.
 

VaderTron

Well-Known Member
That's because Six Flags are about 5000x worse than Disney in quality, though -- even if you think Disney is slacking off (and they are; the parks are nowhere near what they were 25-30 years ago). There's a Six Flags about 25 minutes from me... went once and would never go back. I don't think I'd waste my time going even if I was given a free ticket.
Agreed that they are not as nice as WDW. They do offer a lot of entertainment and thrills for that low price. The point was to present facts to disprove the suggestion made that Disney pricing was in line with Six Flags.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Agreed that they are not as nice as WDW. They do offer a lot of entertainment and thrills for that low price. The point was to present facts to disprove the suggestion made that Disney pricing was in line with Six Flags.

Yeah, I don't think it's in line with Six Flags. It's more or less in line with Universal, though, which is a better comparison. Also, the food at Universal is considerably worse than the food at Disney while being equally pricey. While the quick service burgers at Disney are mediocre and definitely overpriced (as just one example), they taste like a gourmet burger compared to what Universal gives you. Their stuff is almost inedible.
 

Vacationeer

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
My coworker's college age daughter was coming back from Europe through an airport in Switzerland. A mediocre burger with drink was well over $30usd so she decided to skip that meal and buy her Mom a small souvenir instead.

If Switzerland had a Disney park, a plate of fries would be $20 and come with a smear of ketchup inside a tiny paper cup 🎇
 

Scrooged

Well-Known Member
Let's put all of this into perspective. People value some things over others. Take my family for instance. We are a family of four, Mom, Me, two boys. My oldest is autistic- as such his jam/obsession/constant talking point is amusement park rides. He knows the layouts of the Disney parks by heart and he knows the stats of almost all the rides by heart- and not just Disney Parks, but even amusement parks we have never visited. I hadn't been to Disney since I was a teenager, and we planned a visit the year before last. I vowed that I was going to say yes as much as I could to as many different things that I could as far as what we wanted to do - all within our budget. I have memories of going to Disney and feeling like I was on a leash from my parents because we went on a SUPER tight budget. I did not want my kids to feel that way, and honestly- neither did I. So- we saved for two years. And we stayed for seven days. We spent a small fortune- but one that we could afford. We went in expecting crowd sizes that may be uncomfortable. We knew there would be rude park goers and entitled people that we'd encounter. But you know what- it didn't matter in the long run. My kids (and my wife and I to a certain extent) felt as if we had a run on the place. We could do what we wanted and how we wanted to do it. Did we know going in that most of it would be frivolous and wasteful? Yes- but we planned for it. IT allowed for such wonderful moments as my youngest who got of Expedition Everest in tears to receive a "yeti" warrior pin from a cast member. He felt ten feet tall. MY oldest got to ride Everest 8 times - and loved every second of it. MY wife met MAry Poppins and I met Scrooge McDuck- and I we each freaked out about those meetings. I even took a picture with my boys by complete accident in the exact same spot my father (who has died since then) and I took one in almost twenty years earlier.

In the end it isn't what you spend prudently or irrationally that matters- it's that the time was worth it. And regardless if you go with a budget in mind, or flush with cash, focus on the people you are with and the experience rather than the cost of it. I wouldn't trade it for the world, and we are headed there again in '20.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
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My coworker's college age daughter was coming back from Europe through an airport in Switzerland. A mediocre burger with drink was well over $30usd so she decided to skip that meal and buy her Mom a small souvenir instead.

If Switzerland had a Disney park, a plate of fries would be $20 and come with a smear of ketchup inside a tiny paper cup 🎇
Perhaps why the people in Europe and Japan are not as obese as in the USA where food is plentiful and cheap? ( but not in Disney).
 
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seggerman

Member
$1700 for Disney is great budgeting. You should have just ignored the other visitors if their behavior bothered you. I'm going in December for the first time in 18 years - and I am planning down to where to eat (no table service, that's for sure). I'm paying for tickets - Park Hopper plus - and "scrimping" on room - All Star Sports. Renting a car to enable off site meals. If you didn't have a good experience then don't go back. Yes, it's expensive - and if the food isn't any good ridiculously overpriced. Can't compare it to urban areas - because there is stiff competition and if the food isn't any good people will soon go elsewhere. $16 for a lobster roll - that's a steal.
 

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