Stevek
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I believe that's still the plan
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Tomorrowland new entrance
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Mac Tonight
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It's just a bit disappointing that that is the best they could come up with.
mickEblu
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Those white planters don’t go with the gold Astro Orbitor. At the very least couldn’t they give the Orbitor a silver/ white/ blue paint job for the concept art ? So basically it’s not only staying but it’s staying gold?
Stevek
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The large electrical box for the Astro Orbiter tied their hands a bit. Not in love with the flower colors (if they end up that way) but at least the white spires tie in with classic tomorrowland
Stevek
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More reason to move the AO back where it really belongs.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Even if that's the final look, I'm not really a fan. It's not the worst thing they could've done, but it's just flowerbed obstructions rather than rock obstructions, with some pointy things.
mickEblu
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That or just get rid of it. Can they just put a new spinner? Why do we have to move this old Ugly thing?
I was there! Just don't expect me to remember much about it!
George Lucas on a Bench
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Can't they plant some little shrubs like you see in front of the Alpine Inn?
Mac Tonight
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I'm fine with them paying homage to the classic look, but sadly that's as far as it goes. Unless they plan to do the whole land in that style, it just promises something it doesn't deliver on.
mickEblu
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We got some serious TL 67 and TL 98 clashing going on here. What are they doing?
Just a microcosm of how they have no vision or planning skills.
And exactly, I said the same when the concept art was first released. They better go all the way with it and commit to the 67 style and also put some kinetic energy back into the land.
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Mac Tonight
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I actually dug up their "plan" from the WDW Peoplemover Closure Thread.
So, not sure how much of this will be brought back post-Covid, but there it is... or was.
So, not sure how much of this will be brought back post-Covid, but there it is... or was.
mickEblu
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Sounds terrible. I don’t trust that modern Disney would adapt Tron into Disneyland’s small footprint. I feel like it would be more or less a copy paste with a gigantic show building next to the Matterhorn/ on top of Autopia. Id welcome a Buzz overlay (but would also be good with an enhanced Buzz) and can live with a Star Tours overhaul/ overlay but I doubt it would end up better or have the longevity of what is there now. Also no mention of any sort of kinetic every for the land. Yeah I’m hoping this gets cancelled and revisited in a long time when the current regime is long gone. The entrance concept art tells me everything I need to know about this TL redo. Or at least what it was going to be before the end of the world struck in March.
Mac Tonight
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Agreed. The Tron showbuilding alone would be an egregious addition to that already cramped area of the park.
While I'd hate to lose Buzz (or at least a shooter attraction), it definitely needs a face-lift. I'm more than fine with removing Star Tours and either relocating it to SWL or simply retiring the concept for something else futuristic (or retro-futuristic). Definitely don't see them touching this until at least 2025, and I'd hope they could come up with something better by that point.
Mac Tonight
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I'd want the aesthetic of TL 67 with the attractions of 80's Epcot Center (modified slightly). I know Buzz and Nemo are there now, but I kind of don't want to see that area become a mini Pixar-land.
TP2000
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Those rocks were a great example of how suddenly weak a concept can become when you reduce the budget too much and cheapen the overall design.
The rocks added in 1998's land redo were supposed to be part of a larger Tomorrowland design aesthetic based on 1992's fully fleshed out Discoveryland concept from Disneyland Paris. But the Tomorrowland project in Anaheim had its budget slashed again and again in the mid 1990's by the newly arrived Paul Pressler. The result in 1998 when New Tomorrowland opened was disastrous all over the land, but the few remaining theme elements that WDI was able to keep seemed diminished and rather pointless once it was all done. The entry rockwork is a perfect example of that.
Even after all the mid 90's budget cuts that reduced the project to just paint and some slapped-on decoration, the land was supposed to look like this...
And so the entryway off the Hub would have matched it, and made a lot more sense stylistically. For whatever reason, WDI really wanted those rocks to stay in the design even as their budget was collapsing all around them.
But the end result was an ugly mess, even using the dated tastes of the late 1990's as a reference.
While Paul Pressler and Michael Eisner deserve a lot of the blame for their cheapskate 90's ways, I think a valid criticism is that WDI needed to be better at being realistic and knowing what the actual product would look like in the park given their budget constraints. There was failure all over the place with 1998's New Tomorrowland, and WDI can't be entirely blameless.
TP2000
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And with that little tribute to the failed New Tomorrowland of 1998, that reminds me that I'm not sold on this reworked entry aesthetic. WDI seems to be making the same "We don't have a big enough budget" mistake here.
I get it, it's a nod to 1967 Tomorrowland which I loved, but it still has 1992's Discoveryland Astro Orbiter in rusty brown sitting right behind it. And that makes sense how exactly? Uh... gang?... Are we sure about this?...
Why stop there? Why not add the Clock Of The World and Flags Of 50 States in there while you're at it?
I get it, it's a nod to 1967 Tomorrowland which I loved, but it still has 1992's Discoveryland Astro Orbiter in rusty brown sitting right behind it. And that makes sense how exactly? Uh... gang?... Are we sure about this?...
Why stop there? Why not add the Clock Of The World and Flags Of 50 States in there while you're at it?
Mac Tonight
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Changing out the rocks for the white oval flowerbeds really highlights how out of place the Astro Orbiter truly is.And with that little tribute to the failed New Tomorrowland of 1998, that reminds me that I'm not sold on this reworked entry aesthetic. WDI seems to be making the same "We don't have a big enough budget" mistake here.
I get it, it's a nod to 1967 Tomorrowland which I loved, but it still has 1992's Discoveryland Astro Orbiter in rusty brown sitting right behind it. And that makes sense how exactly? Uh... gang?... Are we sure about this?...
Why stop there? Why not add the Clock Of The World and Flags Of 50 States in there while you're at it?
George Lucas on a Bench
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I like that crazy mechanical thing scaling the side of the building in that Tomorrowland artwork.
Not sure what in God's name this is supposed to be, but it never made it in.
Not sure what in God's name this is supposed to be, but it never made it in.