Old Mouseketeer
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Supposedly the actor who played Helen Reddy's lost love interest Paul in the original Pete's Dragon was a Marlboro Man.
I have zero issues with tha All Star Resorts or Pop Century. If Disney was trying to pass the off as highly themes expensive resorts, yeah. But they are cheap, simple with reasonable theming. We actually really like POP.I'd say a majority of Pixar Pier is a great example of this, as are portions of TSL at DHS. See also: All Star Resorts.
The Value Resorts are not themed. They, like much of Pixar Pier, are decorated in exactly the same manner that Six Flags decorates rides.I have zero issues with tha All Star Resorts or Pop Century. If Disney was trying to pass the off as highly themes expensive resorts, yeah. But they are cheap, simple with reasonable theming. We actually really like POP.
And they are so gaudy. They look like the 90s just puked up all over the 80s.
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Okay, I take back anything nice I ever said about Michael Eisner.
Also, to whoever defended these places because they're cheaper, they're still bad. You have to walk forever just to get back and forth from your room, parking is far away and they are noisy. They suck!
The Value Resorts are not themed. They, like much of Pixar Pier, are decorated in exactly the same manner that Six Flags decorates rides.
Hanging up a Batman poster is not the same as building the Batcave.We can agree to disagree...every resort has a theme...music, movies, sports, pop culture...whether or not they meet our individual beliefs on what is theming, that's a different story. You call it decorations which I can understand.
Hanging up a Batman poster is not the same as building the Batcave.
Not every resort can or needs to be the batcave. If WDW had 20 batcaves, there would be no value resorts.Hanging up a Batman poster is not the same as building the Batcave.
I know I'm going to get burned in effigy for saying this, but it would be crazy for Disneyland to build Value Resorts. At WDW Value Resorts make sense, but DL has such a finite amount of space. Why build a resort where you charge $150 per night per room when you can build one that gets $500 per room and still have extremely high occupancy rates?Not every resort can or needs to be the batcave. If WDW had 20 batcaves, there would be no value resorts.
I know I'm going to get burned in effigy for saying this, but it would be crazy for Disneyland to build Value Resorts. At WDW Value Resorts make sense, but DL has such a finite amount of space. Why build a resort where you charge $150 per night per room when you can build one that gets $500 per room and still have extremely high occupancy rates?
I like to think I'm a relatively decent human being, but there's no way I can see myself going the value route in that scenario.
Yes, exactly! They fill the need and are still convenient. The best way for Disney to be a good corporate citizen is to let neighboring hotels have the corner on that market while Disney focus on the segment willing to spring for onsite access.Your thinking isn't uncommon out here and I agree...no reason to build a value resort in Anaheim. The local hotels along Harbor serve as the value and moderate resorts for Disneyland.
They do not exist as part of a continuum. Themed decoration (the poster) does not become themed experience (the Batcave) with greater expense and the application of more “stuff.” The two operate differently and distinctly even if poorly executed themed experiences can share a lot in common with themed decoration, typically through the application of graphics.Not every resort can or needs to be the batcave. If WDW had 20 batcaves, there would be no value resorts.
And they are so gaudy. They look like the 90s just puked up all over the 80s.
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Jesus Christ almighty.
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Okay, I take back anything nice I ever said about Michael Eisner.
Also, to whoever defended these places because they're cheaper, they're still bad. You have to walk forever just to get back and forth from your room, parking is far away and they are noisy. They suck!
You conveniently left out Hotel Santa Fe...DLP has value resorts with actual theming. They simply chose not to do so at WDW.
You conveniently left out Hotel Santa Fe...
That's actually the south mural. I suspect that most/all of the lower portion was removed to create the ground-level openings for the overflow queue and Mickey's Star Trader entrance, but much of the upper portion remains in place behind the Star Tours mural. In all likelihood, this wasn't done for preservation but for simple cost savings; why remove the tiles if they're not in the way?
Rumor has it that the removed tiles were used in the mosaic walls for Pizzeria Bella Notte at DLP. On its surface the claim seems a little suspicious and nonsensical, but the outdoor patio walls do seem to have a similar color scheme so I guess it's plausible
I haven't been able to find any images of the mural panels being installed on the north building during TL98 construction, to see how they're attached. The best I can find are ones that show the graphics being applied after they're in place. There are some online sources that claim that the tile mural was "preserved" in place, but I suspect the attachment is similar to the south side, with many tiles damaged/removed to attach the brackets.
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