Tom Sawer Island closing date

[Disstevefan1]

Disney never starts a project late, nor do they start a project early, they start a project precisely when they mean to.

Yea, they meant (whatever they tried to do in EPCOT) to take as long as it did and what it ended up to be.

I do believe what you said because it just shows the real incompetence this company has....

 

[EricsBiscuit]

We know they are already behind in this "In development, dirt is moving" project. This project still does not have the proper government approvals and has 90 days from when they attempted to file the approvals to fix it.

Lets hope they just drop this stupid cars thing and focus on actually expanding the park and start Villains land ASAP

I would expect them to go back and forth with regulators multiple times before they get the green light to fill in the RoA.

 

[JoeCamel]

I would expect them to go back and forth with regulators multiple times before they get the green light to fill in the RoA.

I'm not sure why it's nothing but a cement pond. Maybe the bird sanctuary thing might play but zoning, building and environmental should not be a problem. They have to clear and build the laydown yards then they can move equipment and material in. This should be fun to see from the monorail
Unless they want to move the drainage canal from Central Shops.....

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I'm not sure why it's nothing but a cement pond. Maybe the bird sanctuary thing might play but zoning, building and environmental should not be a problem. They have to clear and build the laydown yards then they can move equipment and material in. This should be fun to see from the monorail
Unless they want to move the drainage canal from Central Shops.....

My pet theory is that the hold up has little to do with the actual filling in of the river and that it’s something more along the lines of what you’re talking about. Something like the sanctuary or the drainage canal that would have some sort of large impact on the whole area.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I'm not sure why it's nothing but a cement pond. Maybe the bird sanctuary thing might play but zoning, building and environmental should not be a problem. They have to clear and build the laydown yards then they can move equipment and material in. This should be fun to see from the monorail
Unless they want to move the drainage canal from Central Shops.....

Because it is a massive project to fill in RoA and because the lay down yard requires a big clearing. Regulators are very very picky. Answering requests like this is often very expensive too because you have to hire consultants who specialize in what they’re asking for. I wonder if they’re at the stage where they ask Disney to look for an Indian burial ground yet…

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I wonder if they’re at the stage where they ask Disney to look for an Indian burial ground yet…

There’s a peaceful tribe that’s been living on the banks of the river for 50 years.

 

[John park hopper]

No problem peaceful ride sign here-----move here

 

[mitchk]

Thanks for the answers guys. I guess we will just wait and see!

It’s almost definite that it will be closing by February …early March at the latest

 

[Raineman]

It’s almost definite that it will be closing by February …early March at the latest

Based on what info?

 

[Eric Graham]

Aren't Huck Finn and Becky Thatcher going to be so sad

 

[ToTBellHop]

Aren't Huck Finn and Becky Thatcher going to be so sad

Please. Becky isn’t allowed to see Huck anymore.

 

[mitchk]

Based on what info?

The people who I’ve spoke with…

 

[bmr1591]

But this destruction of the placemaking of multiple lands of the park is not going to deal with Epic Universe... They have known about Epic for many many years and had time to come up with something but chose to wait... A Villain's themed coaster and a couple gift shops, and a Cars off road rally ride and a couple gift shops is not going to up Disney's game enough to compete with a whole new from-the-ground-up Theme park with all new state of the art rides and attractions... Adding a replacement for Chester and Hester and a re-skin of Dinosaur, while nice, is also not adding any new capacity to the park... DHS getting a Monsters Inc. coaster will be great, but again, it is one thing...in a park that desperately needs new attractions...

I'm not sure what people really wanted from Disney. Nothing they could open next year would compete with Epic Universe except a 5th gate, but they were never going to build a 5th gate. In what world is it wise to invest hundreds of millions of dollars on attractions that get overlooked because of Epic's opening? Give Universal a year or two, let the hype die down, then have tons of new attractions ready to open and welcome guests in. It's a much better strategy than trying to compete in an area you simply can't.

 

[Bocabear]

I'm not sure what people really wanted from Disney. Nothing they could open next year would compete with Epic Universe except a 5th gate, but they were never going to build a 5th gate. In what world is it wise to invest hundreds of millions of dollars on attractions that get overlooked because of Epic's opening? Give Universal a year or two, let the hype die down, then have tons of new attractions ready to open and welcome guests in. It's a much better strategy than trying to compete in an area you simply can't.

While true, if they had started 5 years ago they would be better set to deal with Epic, but we had Covid and the EPCOT projects going then. I guess waiting is one strategy... sadly none of the new stuff will be open in a year or two... maybe the Animal Kingdom Zootopia show... everything else will probably take a lot longer especially with nothing closing until 2025...

 

[Disstevefan1]

It’s almost definite that it will be closing by February …early March at the latest

I think it depends on the permits. Allegedly permits were already sent back for corrections/more info.

We presume this is an easy thing to fix and send back but what I was thinking about is the ROA has been around over 50 years. Are there plants, birds, frogs, bugs , living things that will be endangered by filling in ROA?

I have no idea, but when a significant thing like this is going to happen there is usually some environmental group to have something to say about it?

 

[bpiper]

I think it depends on the permits. Allegedly permits were already sent back for corrections/more info.

We presume this is an easy thing to fix and send back but what I was thinking about is the ROA has been around over 50 years. Are there plants, birds, frogs, bugs , living things that will be endangered by filling in ROA?

I have no idea, but when a significant thing like this is going to happen there is usually some environmental group to have something to say about it?

They have completely drained the ROA several times over the years to do repair work on the track for the riverboat (and scoop out the mud on the bottom). They didn't didn't seem to have any issues at those times.

I think the problems lie in the swampy areas behind ROA and the loss of the vegetation for the lay down yards.

 

[Bocabear]

but doing maintenance work, and completely demolishing and filling it in are two very different things... One is a temporary cleanup and the other is completely changing the land use forever... it will even change drainage from rain storms...so for sure it will require more thought....

 

[HakunaMatata89]

I think it depends on the permits. Allegedly permits were already sent back for corrections/more info.

We presume this is an easy thing to fix and send back but what I was thinking about is the ROA has been around over 50 years. Are there plants, birds, frogs, bugs , living things that will be endangered by filling in ROA?

I have no idea, but when a significant thing like this is going to happen there is usually some environmental group to have something to say about it?

They can still close it while waiting for the permits.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They can still close it while waiting for the permits.

That’s why I don’t buy all the “nobody visits” and “it’s too expensive” claims… nothing has stopped WDW from simply closing the island or riverboat. They even considered the rebuild costs for both the riverboat and steam locomotives before the new boilers were ordered. They looked at numbers, and decided it was worth it. I don’t think anything has drastically changed since then.

 

[Prince-1]

Based on what info?

Based on the info the bus driver gave him.