Tips for WDW first timers?

Hello everyone!

First time poster, here.

I am a huge Disney nerd. My fiancé and I met on a Disneyland message board. Needless to say, we are Disneyland experts. When it comes to WDW, we are total newbies! We are so excited to have booked our first trip to the world! We will be staying from Jan 20th-30th 2016 at the Animal Kingdom Lodge, Jambo House. We are renting a DVC studio with the Savannah View. We got a 10-day ticket, with the water park add ons. We won't be park-hopping, since we are people who love little details. We expect to spend a day, even in the parks that can be done more quickly just to look around and absorb it all.

We chose Jan 20th-30th because we read that was a slow time in the off season. I am hoping that nothing too major is down for re-furb. I know this is a very general and vague question, but do you experts have any tips for a first timer like me? Small things to look out for? Must-do's that aren't the big E-ticket showstoppers? Where should we eat? (We chose the regular dining plan) Things we should bring to keep in the room that others think are essential? I'm so excited to finally visit, and I know you can't plan every detail, but I am sure you guys are full of great tips and tricks!

Thank you!
 
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@englanddg 's post was unbelievable! Wow. Pretty much spot on with all of his info, too! The only thing I'll add to his post is the fact that HS and Epcot have a tiered system for booking FP+. He made a few recommendation about rides to book FP+ for, however you won't actually be able to get all of the ones mentioned. For instance, Soarin' and Test Track are both top tier attractions, therefore you can only choose one. I like to book a FP+ for one of them and then do rope drop and get in line for the other as soon as the park opens. It usually works pretty well! Test Track also has a single rider line if you don't mind getting split up.. that'll cut down your wait time by quite a bit.

I'd also like to recommend Katsura Grill at Epcot (QS) and Chef Mickey's (TS) if you're into character meals. I did breakfast there last year and it was great! Breakfast food is pretty standard, but it was good and it was nice to meet the Fab 5 without wasting time waiting in line for them at the parks. Be sure to try the Grand Marnier Orange slushie at Epcot in the WS.

I also don't park hop and think it's a huge waste of time - so good call there. There is enough to do at each park to last the entire day. And being that you have 10 park days, that allows you to sleep in a bit or take mid-day breaks without really wasting time or not being able to fit everything in.

Enjoy the pre-feelings! :)
 
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With a 10 day stay, you should be able to get a lot done, but not everything (there is...a lot). Also, you chose good dates. All the parks are slated to be rather empty during your visit. Shorter lines! Yay!

As you are Disney Nerds, you may want to buy the WDW Hidden Mickey book. You can get it at Amazon, but they also sell them all over at WDW.

As you are traveling without kids, I'd look into some of the guided and behind the scenes tours, just for the trivia of it all. Information is here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/events-tours/

Also, La Nouba may be worth a look for you. It's a Cirque show unique to WDW, and is VERY good. It has a dedicated theater at DTD.

As you got WP&M, you may want to also visit the mini golf and DisneyQuest (if it's still open...rumor is it could be closing, but note, that is a RUMOR). DisneyQuest is a Dave and Busters, without the food, on steroids and all the games are free. It's a fun way to burn a few hours.

There are two mini golf courses. One is near AKL, and is Winter Summerland (it's just outside of Blizzard Beach, you'll take the Blizzard Beach / Animal Kingdom busses to get there). The other is Fantasmic Golf. This one is harder to get to. Basically, you take a Friendship Boat from EPCOT or Hollywood Studios, then get off at the Swan/Dolphin dock, and walk across the street. Or you can take a Swan/Dolphin bus from one of the parks.

For restaurants, I wouldn't shy away from looking at the resorts (specifically the Deluxe resorts) as options. Some of the best restaurants are actually at the resorts (though there are a lot of good ones at the parks as well, especially EPCOT).

The biggest things you'll need to brush up on are:

Resort Transportation

Ok, unlike Disneyland, WDW is massive (you may know this intellectually, but when you get there, the scale will still likely shock you). As a result, transportation is an important thing. As a note, if you are planning to rent a car during your stay, you can dismiss what I'm about to say.

So, there are 4 ways to get around property.

1) Busses - Disney runs busses from all the resorts to all the parks, water parks, and Disney Springs (nee Downtown Disney). Busses do not run from resort to resort, so youll need to plan that if you book dining or activites at a resort.

The busses run on a 20 minutes (approx) schedule, and routes take anywhere from 10 - 30 minutes (depending on how many stops the bus takes to load, and if there are any stops between you and your destination like a water park).

This will be your primary transit, as AKL is a bus only resort with two stops, one at Kidani and one at Jambo. Busses start running at 6a.

2) Monorail - Unlike Disneyland, the Monorail, while it does go into a park (EPCOT), none of the stops are IN the park. There are three lines.

All of them connect at the Ticketing and Transportation Center (which is across a Lagoon from the Magic Kingdom).

One is the Resort Only line, and it runs from TTC to Polynesian to Grand Floridian to Magic Kingdom to Contemporary and back to TTC. This is the line you will use to go to those hotels (take a bus to Magic Kingdom, then the Monorail to the resorts).

One is the Magic Kingdom Express Line. This one goes from the TTC to the Magic Kingdom. You will likely never use this line, as you don't have Park Hoppers so you probably won't need to go from MK to EPCOT or vice versa.

The EPCOT line runs from TTC to the EPCOT station. This is how you can get from EPCOT to the MK area, and vice versa, connecting through the TTC.

It is a fun way to get to EPCOT if you have never been before, and even though it adds some transit time, Id recommend you check it out for your first EPCOT day. What you would do is take a MK bus from AKL in the morning at around 7:30a then hop the monorail from MK and get off at TTC. Transfer to the EPCOT line. This should put you at EPCOT right around rope drop.

3) Boats - There are four types of boats at WDW that can take you places.

The Friendship Boats run between Hollywood Studios to Swan and Dolphin to Yacht and Beach Club to Boardwalk to EPCOT's International Gateway (the rear entrance), and then vice versa back to Hollywood Studios.

There are two Launches (Blue and Gold?) that leave from MK and can take you to resort hotels in the area. The Gold? Flag takes you to Grand Floridian and Polynesian. The Blue? Flag takes you to Contemporary, Wilderness Lodge and Ft. Wilderness.

There is a Ferry that you probably won't use that runs from MK to TTC. And there are ferries that run from DTD/DS to the Sassalouga resorts. You probably won't use these either.

4) Taxi - If you need to get anywhere quickly, there are taxis all over the resort, and they sit in the parking lots near the main entrance of all the resort hotels and parks, with the exception of MK where they sit outside of TTC.

To get TO the resort from MCO, Disney's Magical Express will work fine for you. It will take you from there to your resort. Make sure you have your magic bands handy when you go to check in for DME. Also, make sure to register your flight number (arrive and depart) with Disney.

When you get your welcome packet (well, one of them, you are gonna get a LOT of mail from Disney), you'll get yellow luggage tags for your checked bags. When you check your bags with the airline, there's no need to pick them up from Baggage Claim if you use these tags.

Rather, MCO will send your bags to your resort, and Bell Services will deliver them to your room for you (though, be aware, this process takes a few hours, so be sure anything that you'll want during that period, like cameras and stuff, are in your day packs / carry-ons).

The night before checkout you will get a packet that has your depature bus time back to MCO. Also, a neat feature is that you can actually check your bags at the resort and avoid the bag check in lines at the airport.

Disney will deliver your bags to your airline from there. This doesnt work for every airline, but most of them participate. Ask Bell Services about this feature.

It is very convenient, especially if you are departing later than check out. If you dont want to precheck the bags with the airline at your resort, Bell Services can hold onto them for you until the DME bus arrives.

Also, I recommend you do the online early check in through MDX.

As far as your Dining Plan, here's a breakdown.

You'll get a "bank" of credits when you check into your resort. Credits are able to be used through midnight of your checkout day. The number of credits depends on the number of nights of your stay.

So, as you are staying 10 nights, you'll each get.

10 Snack Credits
10 Quick Service Credits
10 Table Service Credits

You can use these credits in any combination during your stay. So, if you want two snacks one day, and no snack the next day, that's fine. Think of it like a "Bank account" of credits that you can deplete as you wish, not a daily allotment.

Note, some venues cost two Table Service credits (Jiko, which is at AKL, and imho one of the best restaurants on the entire WDW property, is one of them). Table Service Credits may be used at Quick Service locations, but not vice versa (and frankly, you are wasting the value of them if you do this, but it is doable).

Also, if you decide to pay out of pocket for anything, pay for breakfasts. They are generally the cheapest meals.

As far as restaurants, all the food is good. There are some places that are unique to WDW that you may want to check out. A short list off the top of my head are:

MK
QS - Gaston's Tavern - Unique environment and Lefou's Brew
QS - Sleepy Hollow - Unique waffle snacks
QS Lunch - TS Dinner - Be Our Guest (BOOK THIS ON DAY 180, even if you don't book anything else that day)
TS - Cinderella's Royal Table - Eat inside the castle and meet the princesses, 2 TS credits
Snack - Cream Cheese Pretzel from Lunching Pad
Snack - Dole Whip / Float (ok, not unique to WDW, but ours is not located near the Tiki Room. So, just making that note for you)

EP
TS - Garden Grill - Dine with Farmer Mickey in a rotating restaurant...ask for a lower level table with a view
TS - Coral Reef - Watch the reef and aquatic life in the world's third largest saltwater aquarium as you dine
Just about everything in World Showcase, though for uniqueness...
2 TS - Le Cellier Steakhouse
TS - Chefs de France
TS - Marrakesh (morrocan food)
QS - Spice Road Table (morrocan food)
TS - Oktoberfest (German Buffet)
QS - Sommerfest (German Street Food)
Snacks - Kringla Bakery at Norway
Snacks - La Cava (hand made unique margaritas, chips and guac)
TS - Rose and Crown (pub food, and the only reason I mention this is that if you book late in the day, about a half hour to 45 mins before Illuminations, and show up about a half hour early for your reservation and ask for patio seating, you get a meal and a great seat for the show!)
Free Snack - Cool Spot (try unique sodas from around the world...be sure to check out the Beverly! It is only available in two places in the US, Epcot and thhe World of Coke in Atlanta)

HS
TS - If you eat at Brown Derby or Mama Melrose you can get the Fantasmic Package for no cost (but you do need to request it) that will get you access to a special seating area for Fantasmic.
TS - Sci Fi Dine In - Dine indoors in an outdoor drive in movie theater...nuff said!
TS - 50's Prime Time - Dine on 50's staples (the meat loaf is great) with sassy waitresses that will tell you to finish your peas!
Snack - I forget the name of it, but there is a villians candy shop just off Sunset Blvd that is worth checking out!
QS - Not to sound negative, and this is my opinion, but the QS at HS is pretty pale compared to the other parks (which does not mean it is bad!). If I had to pick, Id say Brown Derby Lounge, Starring Rolls or Studio Catering Company.

As you guys are Disney Nerds, I would actually recommend you hop a bus for lunch on one of your HS days and check out Art of Animation. Their food court is fantastic!

You can get there using either the AoA busses or the Pop busses, and it gives you a chance to walk another resort or two (if you are into that sort of thing) AoA os where the WDW version of "Cars Land" is. Yeah...you'll chuckle when you see it compared to what DCA has, but it is still a neat themed area (themed hotel, no rides)

AK
QS / Snack - Check out the stuff at the new Harimbe Market. They even have poo candy (not kidding, and not pooh)
TS - Tusker House - This is, imho, the best breakfast buffet on property.
QS - Flame Tree BBQ

DTD / Resorts
2 TS - Jiko at AKL
2 TS - Yachtsman Steakhouse at Yacht and Beach Club
TS - Beaches and Cream Soda Shop at Boardwalk (get the kitchen sink sundae!)
TS - Kona Cafe at Polynesian
2 TS - California Grill (book late and you can watch the Wishes Fireworks from the top of the Contemporary)
2 TS - Spirit of Aloha Luau at Polynesian
2 TS - Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue at Ft. Wilderness (It is dinner with a show...think the Golden Horseshoe)
2 TS - Mickeys Backyard BBQ at Ft. Wilderness
TS - T-Rex at DTD - If you like Rainforest at your DTD, check out this one. Same company runs it. I wouldnt bother with either of our Rainforest Cafes (we have two, one at Animal Kingdom, one at DTD), though the one at DTD does have a volcano on the outside that erupts! But, the interiors of ours doesn't top the one you guys have in Anaheim, imho.
TS - Raglan Road at DTD (Pub food with live entertainment)
2 TS - Boathouse at DTD (this is new)
QS - Earl of Sandwich DTD - I can't remember if you guys have that in California or not...but it's great

The MDX website is ok for making reservations, but I would call. The number is 407.WDW.DINE.

Also, your Dining Plan will come with a mug that gets you free unlimited refills of soda and coffee at your resort during your stay. It can only be used at venues that have a RapidFill station (unfortunately, I don't know where that is at AKL...maybe Boma?)

Also, for a special dining event, you may want to look into the Wanyama Safari at AKL. Details here - https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/animal-kingdom-lodge/wanyama-resort-safari-and-dinner/

As you are shopping, your purchases can be shipped directly to your resort hotel, so you don't have to lug them around the park all day. They will be retrievable at your resort the following day down in the main gift shop. This works every day of your trip up until the day before checkout (so, you won't be able to do it on the 19th or 20th). But, it's really convenient.

Ok...last topic. MDX/FP+/ADRs. For table service you WILL WANT to make ADRs. This is something completely different than Disneyland, but I cannot stress it more. BOOK ADRS AND BOOK THEM AS EARLY AS YOU CAN, EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE THEM LATER.

Some venues are harder to get than others. Dinner shows and signature restaurants tend to book up early, as well as Be Our Guest (which books up insanely quickly). Be Our Guest you will want to do on day 180 (that's when you can start booking). The signatures / dinner shows you will want to do within the first few weeks of day 180, and the rest no later than say day 60.

You have probably heard, but we dont have paper fastpasses at WDW anymore. Instead, everything is done online or through the app in advance.

FP+ you can start booking on day 60. You'll want to do the headliners for sure. Good ones to get are:

MK
Seven Dwarves Mine Train
Peter Pan
Anna and Elsa (if you wish to meet them)

EP
Soarin' (yeah, unlike yours, ours commands really long waits, like hour plus)
Test Track

HS
Toy Story Midway Mania (same, unlike yours, hour to two hour long waits for this are very common here)
Tower of Terror
Rockin Roller Coaster

AK
Everest
Kilimanjaro Safari (if you don't do a before park opening breakfast at Tusker and then head straight over there, which is what I'd recommend you do...but...)
Kali River Rapids

If you haven't set up your MDX account yet at disneyworld.com and downloaded the My Disney Experience app to your phone, go ahead and do so ASAP and start getting familiar with it. It is a great help to keep all this organized.

If you'd like, feel free to follow along with my pre-trip / trip report. I've got details about my experience with Mickey Mail, MDX, FP+, etc...all there, and more coming as my trip (in August) comes closer. And, I'll be staying at AKL Jambo as well!

Link is:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/englanddgs-real-life-or-is-this-just-fantasy.898837/

Have fun!

You are amazing! So much that I did not know, and will now include into my trip. I look forward to following your report. I really can't thank you enough for taking the time to make such a thoughtful post. I'm taken aback by it. For what its worth, I know your tips will help make my stay that much more magical. :)
 
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california_screamer

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I would recommend that you upgrade this to the delux dining plan which offers more flexibility when it comes to dining. Once you take a look at the posting from Englanddg you may see why. It does not take much to use up the points on the regular dining plan - especially if you take in a couple of the 2 point dining locations. My family did the basic dining plan the first time we tried a dining plan and we were most disappointed with it and found that we could not upgrade once we checked into the resort. We only do the delux now since we tend to prefer the 2 point sit-down restaurants.

Thanks for the tip! I will discuss with the man. We ARE foodies, so...
 
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california_screamer

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You will love AKL! We stayed there on one trip... lots of details to enjoy in the theme.

In addition to the Unofficial Guide, also spend time on allears.net. That site has great details on attractions, restaurants(including menus), and other tips and advice.

You should be prepared for some closures. DW and I visited WDW around the same dates two years ago. In addition to Splash being down (as previously mentioned), Kali River Rapids at AK is also likely to be down for maintenance. And, so will one of the water parks (I forget which is closed in January for its annual maintenance).

Be prepared for temperature fluctuations. It can be cool in January in Orlando. Also be ready to be flexible with your water park visit because of the temperatures.

Regarding the park hopper, with a 10 day visit, you may find that you will want to take advantage of hopping, after spending full days already in each park. So, towards the end of your visit, if you do decide that you want to hop, you can add on hopping to the remaining days on your tickets. It's cheaper to add the hopper after you have used some ticket days, because they only charge hopping on remaining days on your tickets.

With a Disney Visa card, you get a discount on the price of tours (like K2K), and discounts at some restaurants and on shopping. And, using the card before your trip can accumulate points that can be redeemed for dining, gifts, or towards your resort bill.

Lastly, other must-do's on my list: Keys to the Kingdom tour at MK. Great behind-the-scenes info. Also, Hoop-dee-doo revue in the Fort Wilderness area is fun, and LOTS of good food.


Not Kali River Rapids! Noooooo! Thanks for the preparation though, guess we will have to make sure to get back sooner rather than later. Our town is rarely about 70 in temp, so I am looking forward to the cooler weather, but I will definitely pack some heavier clothes for all of the possibilities. Also, great tip on the park hopping additions- hadn't thought of it! Thank you for your tips!
 
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california_screamer

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My favorite Non E-Ticket stuff for DHS is One Man's Dream and Muppet Vision 3-D. The thing is there is rumors about 2 more things at DHS being closed before the fiscal year ends at the end of September with construction starting and I don't know what those 2 those closing is going to be.

I know all 5 DHS rides are still going open at the time you are going, but the park is in the early stages of a redo by the time you go and is why the Frozen Sing-a long already moved and the Hat is gone.

My best advice on DHS is do shows that DHS has if you are into watching shows because in 5 or 6 years some of the shows. The big rumors of the shows being the chopping block and be gone by 5 years from now are Lights, Motor, Action! and Indiana Jones. There also is rumors that Streets of America would gone by 5 or 6 years.

I am not sure about Voyage of the Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast live on Stage being gone.

Must see Indy! Thanks for the heads up.
 
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california_screamer

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@englanddg 's post was unbelievable! Wow. Pretty much spot on with all of his info, too! The only thing I'll add to his post is the fact that HS and Epcot have a tiered system for booking FP+. He made a few recommendation about rides to book FP+ for, however you won't actually be able to get all of the ones mentioned. For instance, Soarin' and Test Track are both top tier attractions, therefore you can only choose one. I like to book a FP+ for one of them and then do rope drop and get in line for the other as soon as the park opens. It usually works pretty well! Test Track also has a single rider line if you don't mind getting split up.. that'll cut down your wait time by quite a bit.

I'd also like to recommend Katsura Grill at Epcot (QS) and Chef Mickey's (TS) if you're into character meals. I did breakfast there last year and it was great! Breakfast food is pretty standard, but it was good and it was nice to meet the Fab 5 without wasting time waiting in line for them at the parks. Be sure to try the Grand Marnier Orange slushie at Epcot in the WS.

I also don't park hop and think it's a huge waste of time - so good call there. There is enough to do at each park to last the entire day. And being that you have 10 park days, that allows you to sleep in a bit or take mid-day breaks without really wasting time or not being able to fit everything in.

Enjoy the pre-feelings! :)

Thanks! That Grand Marnier Orange slushie sounds epic! Yum.
 
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englanddg

One Little Spark...
Thanks for the tip! I will discuss with the man. We ARE foodies, so...
If you guys are foodies, seriously consider deluxe. I do it every trip (because I am a fatt...er...foodie).

I broke down what you get with the DDP in that long post.

With DLX, you each would get:

30 QS/TS credits which can be used anywhere
20 Snack credits

It is a LOT of food. You will each be allowed
To order an app, entree and dessert pretty much everywhere you eat.

But, as was noted earlier, it open up a lot of the two credit options to you, and those signature restaurants and dining shows are extremely unique to WDW.

Imho, while Disneyland has a LOT of unique QS, and some good TS, food is one thing that WDW blows them out of the water on. The only difference is that at WDW you might have to take a 30 minute bus rode to get there! At Disneyland...you just walk for a few mins. ;)
 
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englanddg

One Little Spark...
You will love AKL! We stayed there on one trip... lots of details to enjoy in the theme.

In addition to the Unofficial Guide, also spend time on allears.net. That site has great details on attractions, restaurants(including menus), and other tips and advice.

You should be prepared for some closures. DW and I visited WDW around the same dates two years ago. In addition to Splash being down (as previously mentioned), Kali River Rapids at AK is also likely to be down for maintenance. And, so will one of the water parks (I forget which is closed in January for its annual maintenance).

Be prepared for temperature fluctuations. It can be cool in January in Orlando. Also be ready to be flexible with your water park visit because of the temperatures.

Regarding the park hopper, with a 10 day visit, you may find that you will want to take advantage of hopping, after spending full days already in each park. So, towards the end of your visit, if you do decide that you want to hop, you can add on hopping to the remaining days on your tickets. It's cheaper to add the hopper after you have used some ticket days, because they only charge hopping on remaining days on your tickets.

With a Disney Visa card, you get a discount on the price of tours (like K2K), and discounts at some restaurants and on shopping. And, using the card before your trip can accumulate points that can be redeemed for dining, gifts, or towards your resort bill.

Lastly, other must-do's on my list: Keys to the Kingdom tour at MK. Great behind-the-scenes info. Also, Hoop-dee-doo revue in the Fort Wilderness area is fun, and LOTS of good food.
Pretty sure it is Blizzard that closes down in Jan...but I cant recall exactly when.

Typhoon is in the fall, iirc. Blizzard Spring.
 
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englanddg

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Not Kali River Rapids! Noooooo! Thanks for the preparation though, guess we will have to make sure to get back sooner rather than later. Our town is rarely about 70 in temp, so I am looking forward to the cooler weather, but I will definitely pack some heavier clothes for all of the possibilities. Also, great tip on the park hopping additions- hadn't thought of it! Thank you for your tips!
Honestly, I wouldn't be too bummed if Kali is shut down. I've done Kali and it's DCA sister ride (Grizzly River, that I'm quite you've done...plenty of times), and the one at DCA is far superior.
 
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englanddg

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Regarding the park hopper, with a 10 day visit, you may find that you will want to take advantage of hopping, after spending full days already in each park. So, towards the end of your visit, if you do decide that you want to hop, you can add on hopping to the remaining days on your tickets. It's cheaper to add the hopper after you have used some ticket days, because they only charge hopping on remaining days on your tickets.
This gem of advice. iirc, and @dmw can correct me if I'm wrong, this is done at any of the ticketing booths at any of the parks.
 
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Mukta

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I forgot the most important thing! If you already have DL APs, get the Premier pass. Upgrading to that will be way cheaper than buying tickets. They are automatic park hoppers, you get room and merchandise discounts and you can buy Tables in Wonderland which is WAY more flexible than any dining plan.
 
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englanddg

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I forgot the most important thing! If you already have DL APs, get the Premier pass. Upgrading to that will be way cheaper than buying tickets. They are automatic park hoppers, you get room and merchandise discounts and you can buy Tables in Wonderland which is WAY more flexible than any dining plan.
That's a GREAT idea!

Quick question though, if they upgrade to Premier, they get 10-20% of dining. Do they still need TiW? I think the only difference is that TiW is accepted at more venues?

That said, I'm still a fan of the Dining Plans over TiW for non-regular visitors, but for different reasons. TiW is generally cheaper, but the DP is more convenient and requires less budgeting consideration during your visit.

Doing a bit of digging, it seems there are some limits on this upgrade though depending on what sort of Disneyland AP they have and how they are paying for it (like the monthly plan).

It's worth a call though!
 
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Mukta

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You don't get much off of dining in WDW for having an AP. There are just a few places that offer a discount and not on all days or all hours. It's not like DL at all.

I found the DxDP to be an obscene amount of food for me. By day 7, I didn't want to even go to my next ADR. The regular dining plan is convenient, but I just don't' eat that way. I like 2 or 3 apps instead of an entree sometimes. I like a glass of wine and I don't drink soda. TiW works for the way I eat, but I can see how the DDP works for others.
 
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englanddg

One Little Spark...
You don't get much off of dining in WDW for having an AP. There are just a few places that offer a discount and not on all days or all hours. It's not like DL at all.

I found the DxDP to be an obscene amount of food for me. By day 7, I didn't want to even go to my next ADR. The regular dining plan is convenient, but I just don't' eat that way. I like 2 or 3 apps instead of an entree sometimes. I like a glass of wine and I don't drink soda. TiW works for the way I eat, but I can see how the DDP works for others.
Right. It's what is best for the individual and their style. Nothing wrong with either, and there is no universally "right" way to do it.

I was crunching the numbers, and your AP thing is something they certainly should look into. Incredible idea for you to think of that!

It would come out to something like $350 to upgrade their APs, and then they could drop their tickets (which are somewhere around $560 I'd imagine) from their visit. The AP gives them the same benefits of a Park Hopper and WP&M, so for 200 - 300 less, they get MORE benefits than the tickets they currently plan. The only thing it complicates is how they need to connect / set up / order their magic bands, I believe.

Your idea is just BRILLIANT!

The only question I'd have is does their trip fall within blackout dates? I doubt it does, but not being grossly familiar with APs and how they work with first hand detail, it's not a question I can answer.

For TiW, if they are interested, here's the shimmy. Basically it's a discount card for dining. Here's a list of the places that accept it, and other details

http://tablesinwonderland.com/

If they get it after they upgrade their APs, I'd assume it would only be $100 - $150 (depending on if they get one or two cards), right?

They'd pay more OOP during the trip, but they'd probably come out ahead on the bottom line spend this route.

That said, TiW does have more limited venues (therefore is less flexible in terms of dining options) than the DDP, which is pretty much universally accepted. However, a combination of it (if they don't go DLX) could be interesting.

Sound about right?
 
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california_screamer

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If you guys are foodies, seriously consider deluxe. I do it every trip (because I am a fatt...er...foodie).

I broke down what you get with the DDP in that long post.

With DLX, you each would get:

30 QS/TS credits which can be used anywhere
20 Snack credits

It is a LOT of food. You will each be allowed
To order an app, entree and dessert pretty much everywhere you eat.

But, as was noted earlier, it open up a lot of the two credit options to you, and those signature restaurants and dining shows are extremely unique to WDW.

Imho, while Disneyland has a LOT of unique QS, and some good TS, food is one thing that WDW blows them out of the water on. The only difference is that at WDW you might have to take a 30 minute bus rode to get there! At Disneyland...you just walk for a few mins. ;)

You're so right about the DLR food quality. DCA has really stepped it up when it comes to variety and deliciousness, recently. I think the deluxe will be the way to go for us.
 
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california_screamer

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I forgot the most important thing! If you already have DL APs, get the Premier pass. Upgrading to that will be way cheaper than buying tickets. They are automatic park hoppers, you get room and merchandise discounts and you can buy Tables in Wonderland which is WAY more flexible than any dining plan.

We would love to do that, but we don't budget for the Premium AP since our schedules only allow for monthly trips. We do well with the Deluxe, even sometimes the SoCal.
 
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