huwar18
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Ticket price increase / FP+ changes coming?
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I wish I could give multiple likes...That sums up all of our trips!
huwar18
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We are going in June. I am glad we got tickets from Undercover Tourist a couple of months ago. I just checked we would have paid $400 more for tickets through Disney with the new prices.
John park hopper
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$400 dollars more that's a significant increase and what would you be getting for that increase? --my guess is nothing. Sad
Dr.GrantSeeker
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That is a good thought. I also think that doing it that way makes an easier transition, even though the thought of paying for FP kills me.
John park hopper
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When they start charging me for fast pass and I am staying on property that is when i will say adios Disney it's been nice but I have my limits
DisneyCane
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as i visit from the UK for two weeks I like the fact that if i have a plan of what i am going to be doing on certain days as it allows me to maximise my holiday and make sure I am getting my moneys worth
If i have a FP and then want to change the park or something i cancel them and just take what i can get on the day.
If you came up with a plan under the original paper FP system and got to the park at rope drop I can absolutely guarantee that you would have gotten more for your money than you do with FP+ advanced reservations.
With paper FP and park hopper it was possible to FP all the E-tickets in all 4 parks in the same day if you went rope drop to close of the latest closing park on a moderately crowded day. This itinerary is 100% impossible with FP+. There were days that I was able to ride Soarin' (the old good non-curvy version), Test Track, Spaceship Earth, Space, Splash, Thunder, Rock n' Roller Coaster, ToT, Star Tours, Expedition Everest, Safari and Dinosaur all in one day, mostly with FP, some on standby while waiting for the FP window for another ride. I would only do this when a non-passholder was visiting. There is absolutely no possible way to ride all of those in a single day with FP+.
FoP and RotR didn't exist back then so I doubt those could be added to the day even with the old system. I haven't really tried since FP+ was introduced but I'd guess that instead of 12 E-tickets in a day with paper FP, the most I could possibly ride is 8 with FP+. That would take doing 3 at MK with FP+ reservations and then doing standby for 5 others with well over 60 minute waits. That's a 33% reduction in value for money. The math makes sense because with trying to do that with paper FP, except the first park the FP for an E-ticket would be around 2 hours in the future. I'd then do 2 E-tickets on standby with 50 or so minute wait. So 3 rides with about 2 hours waiting in line where now it would be over 3 hours in standby for the same 3 rides.
DisneyCane
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I don't know how that glitch happened but I did not intend to quote your post.
DisneyCane
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I'd be fine with that IF they reserved enough FP+ capacity for the people that elect not to pay to actually have a chance to possibly get FP for all attractions. Price the paid advanced reservations very high to give people willing to essentially double their admission cost the peace of mind that they are guaranteed to have FP+.
Something like 1 free reservation for everybody with current criteria. Then like $50 for 2 more advanced reservations, $100 for 3 more. Everything else would be free, same day and distributed under the original paper FP rules.
That's how I would do it if I was in charge. Huge revenue from "once in a lifetime trip" people. Some fairness and value for the rest of the guests.
Matthew
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I have no way of comparing the current system to the old system as i have only experienced one. That been said i get a great deal of fun out of a boring work day by planning different days for the holiday! The current system may not work for some, but it works for others, it allows me to plan and planning allows me to get the most value I feel i can under the current system
Lirael
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I'm assuming/hoping even if a new system comes, they'll won't retroactively remove FP+. As in, if you already have a resort reservation you will still be able to use 60 day FP+. Because if they announce I'm losing my FP+ window I might as well cancel and stay outside disney for half the cost
DisneyCane
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It is a good thing that you never experienced the original system! I'm happy that you can enjoy the current system and feel that you get value out of it.I have no way of comparing the current system to the old system as i have only experienced one. That been said i get a great deal of fun out of a boring work day by planning different days for the holiday! The current system may not work for some, but it works for others, it allows me to plan and planning allows me to get the most value I feel i can under the current system
My perspective is as a somewhat local passholder that many times doesn't even stay a night in any hotel, let alone a Disney hotel. I am close enough to drive up early in the morning and only spend a day at a time.
Realistically, the 6-month ADR window only matters if you want to eat in specific, highly popular restaurants. If where you eat isn't that important, you can wing it (no pun intended) without ADRs.
The FP+ system, on the other hand, stifles spontaneity like an asbestos blanket on a match.
And now the AP holders can pay just a little bit more for the pleasure of being second-class FP+ citizens...
Purduevian
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I'm wondering if Paid FPs will be like an add on to your ticket like a park hopper:
For instance:
1 day 1 park ticket $130
1 day park hopper $195
The following can be added on
Magic Kingdoms Classics Package $40 per ticket with an any time fastpass for Pirates, Haunted Mansion, and Tea cups
Magic Kingdoms Thrills Package $70 with an any time fastpass for Space, BTMRR, and Splash
Magic Kingdoms Princess Package $80 with an any time fastpass for 7 dwarfs, Enchanted Tales with Belle, and Princess meet and greet
Epcot Thrills $60 includes FP for TT, Soarin, and Mission Space
Epcot Discovery $60 Frozen, Nemo and the Land
Hollywood Studios Star Wars $100 SWGE:SR, Star Tours, and RoTR
Hollywood Studios Toy Story: $70 SDD, TSMM, and AS*S
Hollywood Big Thrills: $70 ToT, RnRC, and Star Tours
Animal Kingdom Big Thrills: $70 FoP, Everest, and Kali
For instance:
1 day 1 park ticket $130
1 day park hopper $195
The following can be added on
Magic Kingdoms Classics Package $40 per ticket with an any time fastpass for Pirates, Haunted Mansion, and Tea cups
Magic Kingdoms Thrills Package $70 with an any time fastpass for Space, BTMRR, and Splash
Magic Kingdoms Princess Package $80 with an any time fastpass for 7 dwarfs, Enchanted Tales with Belle, and Princess meet and greet
Epcot Thrills $60 includes FP for TT, Soarin, and Mission Space
Epcot Discovery $60 Frozen, Nemo and the Land
Hollywood Studios Star Wars $100 SWGE:SR, Star Tours, and RoTR
Hollywood Studios Toy Story: $70 SDD, TSMM, and AS*S
Hollywood Big Thrills: $70 ToT, RnRC, and Star Tours
Animal Kingdom Big Thrills: $70 FoP, Everest, and Kali
nickys
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That is what I’m thinking too. But with higher prices.
Purduevian
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Idk how much higher they can go... How much is a family of 4 going to pay to skip 3 lines? $70*4=$280 PER DAY.
networkpro
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If there were a mechanism to limit attendance to the number of guests in each park to the level that existed during paper fastpasses then you might have a chance. But all things are not equal.
I think the day of FP drops that Len mentions makes so much sense for Disney. They can charge a surge pricing model. They know what park you are in and what the wait times are. MK busy today? Then you get a message pushed to your phone offering you a FP for one of the Mountains for $ per person in your party. The amount per FP can be flexible depending on the park, crowd level, and time of the year. The fact that they can push a message with the offer that may only be good for a limited time also becomes an impulse purchase which fits in perfectly with the crowds they already attract.
John park hopper
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Got in the mail from Holland America Cruise Line a 78 day African cruise leave Ft Lauderdale go completely around Africa into the Med and back to Ft Lauderdale 2 people 40K that comes out to $512/day --state room with balcony. If you have ever been on a cruise the food far exceeds anything at WDW and it's included, service is unbelievable. Wife and I are seriously considering this and finished with Disney and their ever increasing prices and diminished service. Yes Disney has an obligation to their stock holders but their business is based on guest satisfaction which IMO has taken a back seat to stockholders.
nickys
Premium Member
EMM is over $100. I know they expanded the number of rides but really it’s PP and 7dmt that people are after.
This is going to have to be priced high enough to deter most people, otherwise this will sell out just as fast as FPs do now for FoP and MF:SR.
I think as well they may have options for unlimited FPs, similar to DLP. There they have a “one FP per ride” and an “unlimited“ version. They might have some restrictions on the top tier rides, or have an “ultra” option.
I have a visceral reaction to that. I really do think that will be the end for me.