LittleBuford
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You really have no way of knowing that. It certainly wasn’t why I rode it.
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Very unprecedented times, given the pandemic, etc. We can argue until we’re blue in the face who deserves credit or blame for the company’s performance through the pandemic. Personally, I’m just not an Iger fan. He was good early in his tenure, but he’s been around too long.
And to bring the discussion back to the topic at hand, this project just seems to have Iger’s fingerprints all over it. But that is not based on any inside information, so if I’m wrong and someone knows better…feel free to correct me.
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LittleBuford
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I’m not sure what you mean. There was a whole store devoted to Splash merchandise. I know because I bought some.
I’m referring to post-Covid. Once they reopened, they sold out of Splash merchandise and would not stock/produce anymore.
And with the attraction’s closure there was definitely demand for it. People reportedly waited over an hour for a pressed penny on the final day of operation because that was literally the only thing that featured Splash and its characters.
MerlinTheGoat
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They mean during the last few years of operation when Disney began rapidly pulling the merch from shelves. The store that sold splashdown photos was selling generic Disney merch devoid of Splash references for a while before closure, aside from the photos themselves I think (I assume they still sold those anyway, but even there i'm not 100% sure). The Briar Patch shop hasn't had Splash merch for even longer prior to closing. When I perused it back in the mid 2010s, I couldn't find a single Splash-themed item for sell. all they had there was Pooh and other generic Disney stuff.
LittleBuford
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They explained what they meant, and I “liked” their explanation to show I understood it.
MerlinTheGoat
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Nor me. In fact, I actively went out of my way to avoid getting soaked while riding it. Especially in cold seasons. I always ask for the back row for that reason (which gets the least wet out of all rows), and duck down when the boat reaches the bottom of the big drop. That prevents most threats of being drenched (even the waterfall at the stop right before the finale). Aside from the lottery of being hit by the the jets between the first two lifts. It's nice that there are/were ways to avoid getting too wet, unlike something like Kali River (i'm not a fan of those types of rapids rides).
I think quite a lot of people don't like getting drenched but still loved Splash. After getting off the ride, walking around in temperatures in the 90s in soaking wet clothes, underwear and squelching shoes is definitely not a pleasant experience whatsoever for many people. I get the same or better relief of being cooled off by just a proper air conditioned interior building, without any of the downsides.
Yep, I was late.He was probably typing his reply at the same time. It’s all good!
LittleBuford
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What an absurd thing to accuse @Stripes of just because you disagree with him.
cookiee_munster
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Jeez Louise, I come on here after a little bit away and this thread has been filled with Iger/Chapek stuff. As the ice queen herself would belt out: Let it Go...
On a more related note, i've seen the POV of the ride and I think it's fantastic. With what they have to work with already it's hard to work with the limitations of the ride structure, and to fit a whole new narrative around that is commendable.
I don't believe for a second that this was in development way, Way, WAY before the announcement. So what they've managed to do with the short time they've had is great.
The animatronics are all top-notch too. There are areas that look a little sparse, and may have little additions through the years, but what's there is great.
And that end song, I've been humming all day. I'd take that over Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah any time.
Overall I can't see why kids and adults who aren't hardcore Disney parks fans like the rabble here wouldn't like it. I think it ticks all the boxes to be a pretty good attraction and a fair replacement of a ride based on characters from a pretty controversial film.
And on that note, i'm now going to listen to "Special Spice" for the 100th time
On a more related note, i've seen the POV of the ride and I think it's fantastic. With what they have to work with already it's hard to work with the limitations of the ride structure, and to fit a whole new narrative around that is commendable.
I don't believe for a second that this was in development way, Way, WAY before the announcement. So what they've managed to do with the short time they've had is great.
The animatronics are all top-notch too. There are areas that look a little sparse, and may have little additions through the years, but what's there is great.
And that end song, I've been humming all day. I'd take that over Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah any time.
Overall I can't see why kids and adults who aren't hardcore Disney parks fans like the rabble here wouldn't like it. I think it ticks all the boxes to be a pretty good attraction and a fair replacement of a ride based on characters from a pretty controversial film.
And on that note, i'm now going to listen to "Special Spice" for the 100th time
mergatroid
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My main criticism would be it does feel a bit sparse in parts, compared to Splash anyway. I'm not too bothered about the 'storyline' really as I never really thought much of Splash's 'storyline' either. I rode Splash for the fun of the drops, the animatronics and the music. To me it feels a bit off in parts but what is good is very good.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Ok…but mission breakout doesn’t appear to be regarded in consensus as a huge success. It’s still pretty divisive.
SuddenStorm
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Man, imagine being in charge of Disney World- and having Burbank tell you you need to close Splash Mountain, the most popular ride in the most popular park in the most popular vacation spot on the planet.
And spend $100 million in the process. But no worries- WDI's got their best on it.
And then they deliver this.
huwar18
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I completely agree. I loved the ride. However, I stopped riding it the last couple of years.
GenChi
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This mindset is 100% the reason Disney the company is in a overall decline. Not just the parks, but every product the release now.
Almost everyone who is going to their parks or watching their content is not a shareholder. I'm not, because I think there's better outlets to invest in. Focusing on "shareholders" means focusing on unlimited quarterly profit increase and market valuation, which is not sustainable on its own but its absolutely toxic for an entertainment company. The focus is now not on longevity and offering the best service to keep money coming in, but cutting all expenses and throwing in IP themes that don't fit for a worse experience you are then charging far more for.
Looking at all the flagship Magic Kingdom attractions, none besides Splash are tied to an IP. Splash wasn't tied to the IP because it's an IP, but because the storyline made sense for a long-form attraction. That it's the one to get a major ride and not any of the bigger IPs people know shows how they focused on longevity more then short quarterly gains. Now that the focus is only "shareholders", Bob Iger has IPs he wants to promote and he tells them to put it in the ride and make an idea around it. Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit, doesn't matter if it's half-baked, it's an "IP" so it has to sell. We could never get something like Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain, etc, ever again under this mindset, rides that have no IPs but have such good longevity 50 years later every casual knows them. Instead, you get this and the Spiderman ride at DCA which hurt the IP, park and brand overall.
Sorry but this comment bothered me, revolving around "shareholders" like Wish mentioned is just terrible. Because you cut the quality and the brand name can only stand it so far, and then you lose the quality edge that made Disney successful in the first place. Focus on "shareholders" as the priority is in short time currently killing the stock and the company.
They'll all be promoted.
bwr827
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On a few fronts it’s fairly easy to say it’s better, for average park goers. The exterior theming looks amazing. The animatronics are fancy new tech. It has recognizable IP. And, probably, it has a fun shrinking part in the ride.
But I totally understand the nostalgia and attachment for Splash and the laments of “what could have been”. It’s clear the ride could have been made better — either with more money, or different talent, etc.
To me, I think the new ride will work. On balance, it has enough going for it to be popular.
So is the Tianna retheme of the "problematic" Pecos Bill on hold now until things shake out with TBA?
Do they make changes to DLR's version to address the negative reaction to the MK version?
Do they make changes to DLR's version to address the negative reaction to the MK version?
Tha Realest
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If that is true, I think the “how did this get approved?” ignores various dynamics at play. For instance, given the subtext of the subject matter, the reasons for making the change, it could have been uncomfortable if Josh rejected those views.