News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

neo999955

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In the Parks
No
Other than the Brer Fox threats before he throws Brer Rabbit into the Briar patch, the dialogue in the OG Splash Mountain was also rather lighthearted and cutesy in tone. I'm not sure where this revisionist history is coming from that the original ride had edgy or grown up dialogue.
Yeah, I don't quite get this out-of-context take. Obv we need to see it all together, but my memories of Splash are similar / almost forgettable dialog.

I get that people don't like that they took out the suspense and fear, which I agree is unfortunate, but the actual dialog and such feels on par with most Disney rides that are kid friendly (especially a princess ride) and even Splash itself.

Also, this has the same height requirement and features cute animals on a log ride. I think it'll have the same audience as Splash did. Except maybe kids won't be as scared during.
 

James Alucobond

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Enough to be considered one of the greatest examples of its medium.

Yes.

Just because you don't like it, does not mean you need to put it down when people do not like its replacement.

If you like the things they don't, so what.
What are you even talking about? The ride was considered great, and the execution of the story within the ride was part of that, but prior to all the hubbub surrounding this retheme, no one was making the absurd claim that it wasn’t a simplistic story designed for children.

The comment I responded to was bemoaning the fact that a narrative designed for children was being replaced with a narrative designed for children. If the comment had been about not liking how Disney currently structures children’s stories, I’d have left it alone, but the implication was that it was a mistake to target younger people with the narrative.
 

LittleBuford

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It was age appropriate for the ride system. The 3-6 crowd typically don’t find themselves on a log flume.
Disney certainly has a number of rides aimed at very young guests (Barnstormer springs to mind). This really doesn’t seem like one of them. To me, it looks like the kind of family-friendly attraction that Disney is well know for (and that Splash Mountain itself was another example of).
 
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LittleBuford

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Splash was aimed at everyone. Not just the under 9 crowd.
I’m well over 9, and I see nothing here that suggests the ride wouldn’t appeal to me (well, apart from the awful signage).

These criticisms make little sense to me given that Disney is full of child-friendly rides that we as adults all go on and enjoy. Or are people really suggesting that Tiana’s Bayou Adventure appears more infantile than, say, Peter Pan’s Flight?
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
What are you even talking about? The ride was considered great, and the execution of the story within the ride was part of that, but prior to all the hubbub surrounding this retheme, no one was making the absurd claim that it wasn’t a simplistic story designed for children.

The comment I responded to was bemoaning the fact that a narrative designed for children was being replaced with a narrative designed for children. If the comment had been about not liking how Disney currently structures children’s stories, I’d have left it alone, but the implication was that it was a mistake to target younger people with the narrative.

joyful enough for all and depth are not mutually exclusive.

Actually, in this very discussion board and forums in the past we have had people saying they did not understand that it was reverse psychology or that the briar patch was representing what was mirroed in the story.

Splash Mountain had layers, and was not aimed only at a constant jubilation quest. It had depth for those that wanted and it was organically discovered.

This has a Food Co-Op for those that care anything other than princess and musical critters.

It was a timeless simple story concept(the trickster) presented in a fantastic way for all ages. I don't get why you insist on putting it down and are silly if you think anything we have seen so far is on the same level story wise.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
It's a great Mama Odie animatronic. I wish it were in a better ride.
The preceding statement is made based on what we know of the ride so far. You may disagree with my assessment of the ride we are getting; however, it is my opinion, and it is based on my own evaluation of the promotional materials and behind-the-scenes photos/videos provided by Disney or "Drew the Disney Dude." Besides, I'm a king (can't you tell in my avatar?) and I can say what I wish.
 

mickEblu

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joyful enough for all and depth are not mutually exclusive.

Actually, in this very discussion board and forums in the past we have had people saying they did not understand that it was reverse psychology or that the briar patch was representing what was mirroed in the story.

Splash Mountain had layers, and was not aimed only at a constant jubilation quest. It had depth for those that wanted and it was organically discovered.

This has a Food Co-Op for those that care anything other than princess and musical critters.

It was a timeless simple story concept(the trickster) presented in a fantastic way for all ages. I don't get why you insist on putting it down and are silly if you think anything we have seen so far is on the same level story wise.

“Organically discovered” I think is a good way to put it. The same way they are cramming poor signage and banners are all over the place is the same way they are going about the audio. It’s poor execution. Forcing unnecessary commentary and narration where none is needed. “Tiana is great at throwing parties.” “Let’s go find the critters.” It reads like Blues Clues or Mickey Mouse Clubhouse or something. I’m sure they’ve bombarded the pleasant, atmospheric outdoor portion of the ride with this kind of non sense.
 

JohnD

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Besides, I'm a king (can't you tell in my avatar?)
You look like Michael Caine to me.
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mickEblu

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To me, it reads like the script of a Disney attraction.

I think the issue for me is two-fold in that it comes across a bit juvenile but also continues Disneys trend of the guests being recruited or being an active part of the story. Sometimes it works when great execution like the Ghost Host speaking to us. Brer Rabbit wasn’t recruiting us to help him escape. We were presented with a whimsical setting, characters and music to enjoy. Furthermore, I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced being a recruit or active part of the story with Disney animated IP. It’s usually Star Wars or Marvel. So hearing things like “let’s go find the critters” or “help us find the missing ingredient” out loud makes it sound a little juvenile. You don’t really hear that stuff on the older attractions based on Disney animated movies. It’s a certain level of hand holding going on these days not just with Tiana but other new attractions. Frozen Ever After too if I’m not mistaken.

Then add the fact they re not including the villains or darker elements from the movie and you can see why people feel how they do.
 

James Alucobond

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It was a timeless simple story concept(the trickster) presented in a fantastic way for all ages. I don't get why you insist on putting it down and are silly if you think anything we have seen so far is on the same level story wise.
I am not putting it down. I am saying the original was also a children’s story. Adults can enjoy children’s stories, but that generally isn’t due to their complexity, nor was Splash narratively complex in the slightest measure. Whether TBA is enjoyable for all ages or patronizing remains to be seen, but the mere act of writing the story for children is not the problem.
 

andre85

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This may be a new best in animatronics. I’m legitimately stumped to think of anything more impressive aside from the Shaman figure.

It's really good...but when did Disney stop animating animatronic fingers? It seems all their recent figures have stopped, at least for humans: This ride, Frozen, BATB (I believe), Little Mermaid (including Ursula) all feature static hands and it's a little distracting once you notice. . Plenty of past rides had finger movement, including Great Movie Ride (the Witch, at least), Alien Encounter, Hall of Presidents, and I'm sure tons more that I didn't look into.
 

LittleBuford

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I think the issue for me is two-fold in that it comes across a bit juvenile but also continues Disneys trend of the guests being recruited or being an active part of the story. Sometimes it works when great execution like the Ghost Host speaking to us. Brer Rabbit wasn’t recruiting us to help him escape. We were presented with a whimsical setting, characters and music to enjoy. Furthermore, I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced being a recruit or active part of the story with Disney animated IP. It’s usually Star Wars or Marvel. So hearing things like “let’s go find the critters” or “help us find the missing ingredient” makes it sound a little juvenile. You don’t really hear that stuff on the older attractions based on Disney animated movies. It’s a certain level of hand holding going on these days not just with Tiana but other new attraction. Frozen Ever After too if I’m not mistaken.
I understand not liking this approach, but I don’t see how it’s inherently infantile when, as you yourself acknowledge, it’s also used for Star Wars and Marvel attractions.
 

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