Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[TP2000]

This article is shockingly well written and highlights a number of issues with the ride.

It is and it does. This website features prominently throughout.

That said, I bet they're happy with this fan reaction at the New Orleans Ritz-Carlton.

They're likely looking forward to more "WDI Research Trips" once a fix-it budget gets approved for at least the WDW version.

Luxury Hotel in New Orleans | The Ritz Carlton, New Orleans

Located on Canal Street in the French Quarter, The Ritz-Carlton is a luxury hotel in New Orleans offering spacious accommodations, a spa and live jazz.

www.ritzcarlton.com

 

[SuddenStorm]

It is and it does. This website features prominently throughout.

That said, I bet they're happy with this fan reaction at the New Orleans Ritz-Carlton.

They're likely looking forward to more "WDI Research Trips" once a fix-it budget gets approved for at least the WDW version.

Luxury Hotel in New Orleans | The Ritz Carlton, New Orleans

Located on Canal Street in the French Quarter, The Ritz-Carlton is a luxury hotel in New Orleans offering spacious accommodations, a spa and live jazz.

www.ritzcarlton.com

I love that she has a paragraph highlighting other things Disney's done recently that have flopped- including the redo of F! - and called Josh D'Amaro out by name.

I was stoked when he was promoted to his current role and thought he'd lead a Disney Parks renaissance- instead, I loathe everything he's done since he got promoted, except for the Adventureland Treehouse but I doubt he even knows about that.

It was heartbreaking to see Splash get gutted- but it's even more heartbreaking that the replacement is a disaster. If a classic is replaced with something good, it can help remove the sting. But now Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom are worse off forever.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

I'm a simple man. If the ride had two more good scenes and removed all the bad ones of characters just standing and talking, I would call it a good ride.

Since these changes won't be made, I am going to just call it a bad ride.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

From Disney in 2022-

"Imagineers made frequent research trips to Louisiana, visiting the French Market and the bayou and consulting academics, chefs, musicians, and more—all to capture the heart and soul of New Orleans, where Tiana’s story is set."

What a crock of... nonsense.

 

[TP2000]

I'm a simple man. If the ride had two more good scenes and removed all the bad ones of characters just standing and talking, I would call it a good ride.

Since these changes won't be made, I am going to just call it a bad ride.

I agree with you. Simple is often better when it comes these flow-thru water rides. Walt was brilliant when he said he wanted Pirates of the Caribbean to be "like a cocktail party, where you get snippets of conversation as you wander through the room". I wander through cocktail parties a lot, and it's a brilliant design choice.

But I'm laughing at myself because I think I've been calling you "Ladies" (plural) all these years because of your screen name. I had no idea you were a man! I thought you were a lady, with maybe a self-aware personality disorder.

 

[davis_unoxx]

From Disney in 2022-

"Imagineers made frequent research trips to Louisiana, visiting the French Market and the bayou and consulting academics, chefs, musicians, and more—all to capture the heart and soul of New Orleans, where Tiana’s story is set."

What a crock of... nonsense.

”they further researched extensively on the diverse atmosphere of the Courtyard Inn and Suites two blocks from Bourbon St to study the signs in the lobby pointing to the authentically Creole, distinctly Disney break room sign“

 

[SuddenStorm]

I agree with you. Simple is often better when it comes these flow-thru water rides. Walt was brilliant when he said he wanted Pirates of the Caribbean to be "like a cocktail party, where you get snippets of conversation as you wander through the room". I wander through cocktail parties a lot, and it's a brilliant design choice.

But I'm laughing at myself because I think I've been calling you "Ladies" (plural) all these years because of your screen name. I had no idea you were a man! I thought you were a lady, with maybe a self-aware personality disorder.

In an interview, Baxter said something along the lines of (this is not an exact quote) "People don't listen to attraction dialogue. They just don't. What matters is that the dialogue sounds authentic. Walt understood that. These days designers can time dialogue down to the second, and it makes attractions worse off"

Tiana falls victim to that. And it's painful that you can see the figure come to life when you float by. We should just be floating past her interacting with the musicians.

 

[TP2000]

From Disney in 2022-

"Imagineers made frequent research trips to Louisiana, visiting the French Market and the bayou and consulting academics, chefs, musicians, and more—all to capture the heart and soul of New Orleans, where Tiana’s story is set."

What a crock of... nonsense.

Isn't that great?!? Don't you just love it?! I do. It's so perfectly oblivious, and so grossly decadent. Perfection.

None of what we've seen in the WDW queue or the on-ride experience needed a single research trip, let alone multiple research trips with Ritz-Carlton junior suites and boozy team dinners and curated site visits where local artists could slobber all over the Californians from Disney who were suddenly paying attention to them. It's just gross.

Nothing in WDW's Tiana's Bayou Adventure needed a research trip. It's all broad and basic and oddly dumbed down. All of it could have been gleaned and gained from a 10 minute Google search for each topic: New Orleans cuisine, architecture, jazz, culture; plus a few more searches for 1920's clothing, graphic design, and pop culture. Then get the archives to email over a few PDF copies of the Sears Roebuck catalog circa 1927, and you're done. You can now do this for the queue...

And yet somehow they took "frequent research trips" to New Orleans (only because it is a city with a Ritz-Carlton and very good restaurants) to work on this log ride. And then they created Tiana's Bayou Adventure out of that.

At this point, it's apparent that Imagineering is playing the big bosses up the freeway in Burbank for fools. Send up another round of Sazeracs and Beignets from room service! We're remodeling a log ride!

 

[mickEblu]

Conspiracy Theory: They left Dr. Facilier off the ride knowing the majority of negative reviews would complain about the lack of his presence thereby allowing them to add him in the 11th hour with no fear of twitter mob coming for them as they can point to all the YouTube comments. The people have spoken and Dr. Facilier is really not all that problematic. This theory would also explain why the final lift hill is so lackluster.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Upon finally seeing this end product... I highly suggest a deep look back into the road that brought us here. It is utterly hilarious and just full of downright nonsense and contrivances that are utterly baffling seeing what we ended up with.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: Inside the Disney Princess’ Bold New Look - D23

Today, Walt Disney Imagineering made a splash at the ESSENCE Festival of Culture™ presented by Coca-Cola® when it announced the reimagining

d23.com

"Imagineers are renowned for their forward-thinking innovations, and that extends to creating the textiles used for Tiana’s attire. “Tiana’s gaiters would have been weighed on a very heavy cotton canvas. But those are natural, man-made fibers,” Muldrow explains. “For this attraction, we have to be realistic. There’s going to be moisture, so we can’t use natural linen or cotton; they can break down in a matter of years. Tiana’s costume is going to be polyester-rich, but it is going to look like linen.”"

"When Tiana’s Bayou Adventure opens in late 2024, Powell hopes it inspires a “sense of pride,” particularly within the African American community. “A lot of people will talk the talk, but Disney has talked the talk and they’re walking the walk by creating an attraction centered on its first African American Princess,” Powell says. “I hope people feel overwhelmed with happiness and joy—Disney thought enough about Tiana to create this attraction.”"

No time for sensical story telling an idiot could piece together, WE GOT POLYESTER-RICH COSTUMES THAT LOOK LIKE LINEN! The company is beyond tone deaf good lord.

 

[Consumer]

Tiana falls victim to that. And it's painful that you can see the figure come to life when you float by. We should just be floating past her interacting with the musicians.

This is a problem with a lot of modern attractions, even some of the better ones. Theme park rides work best when the show scenes act as gifs, no beginning, no end, just a loop. “Yo Ho” is a prime example of this method. It’s the reason Splash’s finale was perfect.

 

[davis_unoxx]

Upon finally seeing this end product... I highly suggest a deep look back into the road that brought us here. It is utterly hilarious and just full of downright nonsense and contrivances that are utterly baffling seeing what we ended up with.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: Inside the Disney Princess’ Bold New Look - D23

Today, Walt Disney Imagineering made a splash at the ESSENCE Festival of Culture™ presented by Coca-Cola® when it announced the reimagining

d23.com

"Imagineers are renowned for their forward-thinking innovations, and that extends to creating the textiles used for Tiana’s attire. “Tiana’s gaiters would have been weighed on a very heavy cotton canvas. But those are natural, man-made fibers,” Muldrow explains. “For this attraction, we have to be realistic. There’s going to be moisture, so we can’t use natural linen or cotton; they can break down in a matter of years. Tiana’s costume is going to be polyester-rich, but it is going to look like linen.”"

"When Tiana’s Bayou Adventure opens in late 2024, Powell hopes it inspires a “sense of pride,” particularly within the African American community. “A lot of people will talk the talk, but Disney has talked the talk and they’re walking the walk by creating an attraction centered on its first African American Princess,” Powell says. “I hope people feel overwhelmed with happiness and joy—Disney thought enough about Tiana to create this attraction.”"

No time for sensical story telling an idiot could piece together, WE GOT POLYESTER-RICH COSTUMES THAT LOOK LIKE LINEN! The company is beyond tone deaf good lord.

So glad Coca Cola sponsored that section of the show, the company that has given more diabetes and other diseases to lower income people around the world than anyone!

 

[mickEblu]

Upon finally seeing this end product... I highly suggest a deep look back into the road that brought us here. It is utterly hilarious and just full of downright nonsense and contrivances that are utterly baffling seeing what we ended up with.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: Inside the Disney Princess’ Bold New Look - D23

Today, Walt Disney Imagineering made a splash at the ESSENCE Festival of Culture™ presented by Coca-Cola® when it announced the reimagining

d23.com

"Imagineers are renowned for their forward-thinking innovations, and that extends to creating the textiles used for Tiana’s attire. “Tiana’s gaiters would have been weighed on a very heavy cotton canvas. But those are natural, man-made fibers,” Muldrow explains. “For this attraction, we have to be realistic. There’s going to be moisture, so we can’t use natural linen or cotton; they can break down in a matter of years. Tiana’s costume is going to be polyester-rich, but it is going to look like linen.”"

"When Tiana’s Bayou Adventure opens in late 2024, Powell hopes it inspires a “sense of pride,” particularly within the African American community. “A lot of people will talk the talk, but Disney has talked the talk and they’re walking the walk by creating an attraction centered on its first African American Princess,” Powell says. “I hope people feel overwhelmed with happiness and joy—Disney thought enough about Tiana to create this attraction.”"

No time for sensical story telling an idiot could piece together, WE GOT POLYESTER-RICH COSTUMES THAT LOOK LIKE LINEN! The company is beyond tone deaf good lord.

Wow. Don’t remember this one. The material on her gaiters? And people wonder why we were worried. Shame on all you of for engaging in bad faith!

 

[TP2000]

"When Tiana’s Bayou Adventure opens in late 2024, Powell hopes it inspires a “sense of pride,” particularly within the African American community. “A lot of people will talk the talk, but Disney has talked the talk and they’re walking the walk by creating an attraction centered on its first African American Princess,” Powell says. “I hope people feel overwhelmed with happiness and joy—Disney thought enough about Tiana to create this attraction.”"

Oh gosh, that is so pandering. Who actually believes PR like that? It's just so fake and cringey and... pandering.

I'd be mad if they said stuff like that about Scandinavians when they opened the Frozen ride. Switch out "African-American" for "Scandinavian" or "Italian" or "Japanese" and it's equally creepy and gross.

No time for sensical story telling an idiot could piece together, WE GOT POLYESTER-RICH COSTUMES THAT LOOK LIKE LINEN! The company is beyond tone deaf good lord.

The fascination that WDI and their corporate communications teams have these days for over-sharing inane trivia about a queue or a polyester dress on an animatronic is bizarre. They didn't used to be like this. Somehow, they now think that Parks Blog posts are just as impactful and important as operating attractions, shows and parades. They are not.

 

[davis_unoxx]

Oh gosh, that is so pandering. Who actually believes PR like that? It's just so fake and cringey and... pandering.

I'd be mad if they said stuff like that about Scandinavians when they opened the Frozen ride. Switch out "African-American" for "Scandinavian" or "Italian" or "Japanese" and it's equally creepy and gross.



The fascination that WDI and their corporate communications teams have these days for over-sharing inane trivia about a queue or a polyester dress on an animatronic is bizarre. They didn't used to be like this. Somehow, they now think that Parks Blog posts are just as impactful and important as operating attractions, shows and parades. They are not.

It’s beyond cringey, when I had my lovely Main Entrance Pass when I was a CM at Epcot I noticed they had Ireland shirts in the UK pavilion…

Which I thought was very weird due to conflicts between Ireland and Northern Ireland through the 90s.

Also I’m Greek American, and they sell Greek dishes in Morocco Pavillion at Epcot LOL, not sure how this isn’t cultural appropriation according to the Disney interns.

It’s very weird how Disney cares a lot about culture with Tiana but not others…

In my opinion having the Ireland shirt in there is same as having a former British country like India in there, people would be deeply offended.

 

[TP2000]

In my opinion having the Ireland shirt in there is same as having a former British country like India in there, people would be deeply offended.

That's hysterical! Although technically, I guess they aren't wrong for at least a few of those countries. They should start selling Belize, Australia, Hong Kong and Gibraltar t-shirts in the UK pavilion too!

This is just one of those perfect examples of how Disney has grown so big and so bureaucratic that the left hand no longer knows, or cares, what the right hand is doing. The left hand may be WDI and Corporate Communications in SoCal, while the right hand is Merchandise Planning & Procurement in Celebration.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Has anyone spied Rufus the Turtle? I've been told he is genuine and sincere, but may come across as a little sarcastic at times with his habitual sighing.

Meet the Critters at Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: Part 1

Get a first look at all-new Disney characters created for Tiana's Bayou Adventure — the new Audio-Animatronics friends who play an important role in this musical adventure at Walt Disney World Resort and Disneyland Resort!

disneyparks.disney.go.com

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Has anyone spied Rufus the Turtle? I've been told he is genuine and sincere, but may come across as a little sarcastic at times with his habitual sighing.

I FOUND HIM, had to look again, but he is indeed there in the first... band in the upper right. From the video, I may have detected a little sarcasm, but I certainly did not catch any of his supposed habitual sighing.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Question, being Imagineering spent time on Tiana's hair and making it as authentically 1920's as can be-

"In doing her research, Powell not only looked at the popular styles of the day, but also the tools used to create them. “Back then, it was the hot comb; it wasn’t a relaxer,” she says of the hair-straightening tool. “But there’s a difference in the texture of the hair when you use a hot comb versus a relaxer. So, for Tiana being in the bayou, we actually pressed her hair in Marcel waves. It’s perfect for her.”"

Did Disney do this for the cringe CGI oversized Tiana? If not, Disney certainly dropped the ball to make this groundbreaking. Imagine the D23/DisneyParksBlog articles talking about how for the first time, they actually animated a hot comb and ran it through the 3D model's hair. Kind of like how Disney went a bit nuts telling people that World of Color was the first time paper animation had been projected onto water.

 

[mickEblu]

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Question, being Imagineering spent time on Tiana's hair and making it as authentically 1920's as can be-

"In doing her research, Powell not only looked at the popular styles of the day, but also the tools used to create them. “Back then, it was the hot comb; it wasn’t a relaxer,” she says of the hair-straightening tool. “But there’s a difference in the texture of the hair when you use a hot comb versus a relaxer. So, for Tiana being in the bayou, we actually pressed her hair in Marcel waves. It’s perfect for her.”"

Did Disney do this for the cringe CGI oversized Tiana? If not, Disney certainly dropped the ball to make this groundbreaking. Imagine the D23/DisneyParksBlog articles talking about how for the first time, they actually animated a hot comb and ran it through the 3D model's hair. Kind of like how Disney went a bit nuts telling people that World of Color was the first time paper animation had been projected onto water.

You gotta be kidding me. But I kept riling everyone up when I said they had the wrong priorities over and over.