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Third parking garage coming to Disney Springs

peter11435

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I want to second @dhsxlop post. I too drove by the third garage last night from I-4. You could clearly see the overhead green light parking indicator so apparently it does have the same system as the other two garages.

The vendor for the first two garages did say they were surprised to hear that it was not going to. So very odd. The system is being used as recently as last week. I wonder what the new system will be in the orange garage or if they're just fixing the current system?
Both the old and new systems use green lights to indicate available spaces. So the new garage may already be the new system.
 
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Skywise

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Not sure if you are joking but there would be no issue whatsoever with using lemon as it relates to fruit loops. In fact, they could call it the fruit loops garage and it still wouldn't be a problem. Trademarks only apply to similar products. That's why there can be a Delta Airlines and Delta Faucets and they both have trademarks.
I know - It was the whole "Orange, Lemon, Lime and Cherry flavors" that made me think of it. :)
 

Goofnut1980

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We’ve more or less cut out DS from our trips. I can’t stand the garages: they make the area look like an industrial zone, constant flow of slow moving cars waiting to inch forward to get from level to level in garages, constantly waiting for elevators (but don’t go down to the ground floor bc curiously that is not how you exit into DS) and having to navigate the narrow lanes & corners in the garages make it more stressful than it has to be.

The surface lots were just much easier to deal with. Add on top of this the traffic in the Hotel Plaza Blvd. area along with the non-Disney owned/themed restaurants and shops, and little incentive is left for me to go. Most of these points may not matter at all to other guests but they drive me crazy.
I agree with you. DS back in the day used to have unique shops and merch. Now it is filled with stores I have at my local malls and merch I can get at so many of the stores on property. It is a nightmare to go down there now. We skip it most of the time now.
 

Bill Matthews

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Today's Grapefruit Garage Update (31-January-2019) says that opening will be delayed from February to later in the Spring...even though the garage is (essentially) done. But there is no mention of why this delay is happening -- anyone know why?
 

Disone

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I agree with you. DS back in the day used to have unique shops and merch. Now it is filled with stores I have at my local malls and merch I can get at so many of the stores on property. It is a nightmare to go down there now. We skip it most of the time now.
WSL007 post did not make any sense to me. Since the post I have actively look for lines at the elevator. I have not seen any. Including the days were most of the escalators and the orange garage were closed for refurbishment, they were still no lines for the elevators. I'm not sure what he experienced. I also wonder what unique merchandise and shops were removed that some lament the loss. Disney Springs was mostly an addition to the exisiting shops. As far as merchandise and shopping go, I don't feel like there's been a whole lot closed. I do feel like there's been a whole lot at it. And I can understand the argument that a lot of what's added is found at your local mall. But there is also a lot your local mall does not have. A Levi's store that taylors your jeans on site? Does your mall have a Uniqlo? Does it have a Cirque du Soleil? On top of Cirque du Soleil doesn't have over 10 different variety acts going on at any one particular time during the course of an evening? All of which are free? Chances are no.

The only thing Disney Springs truly suffers from is the same thing that any major shopping mall would suffer from. At the end of the day most of what's there will not appeal to you. But that's why it's a mall. It's a massive conglomerate of Shoppes of which you are going to only have a true interest in a small handful of them. I can go to the Mall of America or the West Edmonton Mall and really only be interested in about 5 to 10 shops in those facilities out of the hundreds that they have.
 

Disone

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Today's Grapefruit Garage Update (31-January-2019) says that opening will be delayed from February to later in the Spring...even though the garage is (essentially) done. But there is no mention of why this delay is happening -- anyone know why?
Interesting. Maybe it didn't pass inspection? And now they have to go back and rebuild something?
 

AJH219

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WSL007 post did not make any sense to me. Since the post I have actively look for lines at the elevator. I have not seen any. Including the days were most of the escalators and the orange garage were closed for refurbishment, they were still no lines for the elevators. I'm not sure what he experienced. I also wonder what unique merchandise and shops were removed that some lament the loss. Disney Springs was mostly an addition to the exisiting shops. As far as merchandise and shopping go, I don't feel like there's been a whole lot closed. I do feel like there's been a whole lot at it. And I can understand the argument that a lot of what's added is found at your local mall. But there is also a lot your local mall does not have. A Levi's store that taylors your jeans on site? Does your mall have a Uniqlo? Does it have a Cirque du Soleil? On top of Cirque du Soleil doesn't have over 10 different variety acts going on at any one particular time during the course of an evening? All of which are free? Chances are no.

The only thing Disney Springs truly suffers from is the same thing that any major shopping mall would suffer from. At the end of the day most of what's there will not appeal to you. But that's why it's a mall. It's a massive conglomerate of Shoppes of which you are going to only have a true interest in a small handful of them. I can go to the Mall of America or the West Edmonton Mall and really only be interested in about 5 to 10 shops in those facilities out of the hundreds that they have.
It's because the people who diss Springs are losers, plain and simple. They concoct fake lies and spread them around this forum to try and convince the gullible that Springs is a failure when its actually one of the greatest things done at WDW in the last decade. I'm glad these haters avoid it like the plague. I dont want people with unbearable negativity ruining such a great place with a great vibe
 
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WhatJaneSays

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I agree with you. DS back in the day used to have unique shops and merch. Now it is filled with stores I have at my local malls and merch I can get at so many of the stores on property. It is a nightmare to go down there now. We skip it most of the time now.
WSL007 post did not make any sense to me. Since the post I have actively look for lines at the elevator. I have not seen any. Including the days were most of the escalators and the orange garage were closed for refurbishment, they were still no lines for the elevators. I'm not sure what he experienced. I also wonder what unique merchandise and shops were removed that some lament the loss. Disney Springs was mostly an addition to the exisiting shops. As far as merchandise and shopping go, I don't feel like there's been a whole lot closed. I do feel like there's been a whole lot at it. And I can understand the argument that a lot of what's added is found at your local mall. But there is also a lot your local mall does not have. A Levi's store that taylors your jeans on site? Does your mall have a Uniqlo? Does it have a Cirque du Soleil? On top of Cirque du Soleil doesn't have over 10 different variety acts going on at any one particular time during the course of an evening? All of which are free? Chances are no.

The only thing Disney Springs truly suffers from is the same thing that any major shopping mall would suffer from. At the end of the day most of what's there will not appeal to you. But that's why it's a mall. It's a massive conglomerate of Shoppes of which you are going to only have a true interest in a small handful of them. I can go to the Mall of America or the West Edmonton Mall and really only be interested in about 5 to 10 shops in those facilities out of the hundreds that they have.
I think many people forget that Disney Springs IS the local mall for a lot people. It's my closest non-outlet mall, and I buy day-to-day things there all the time. Makeup, bath stuff, clothes, accessories, jewelry, plus lots of my hobby/fun stuff like Lego.

As much as people want to complain about the lack of unique stores at Disney Springs, the truth is that those kinds of stores rarely survive at any location. DS is supporting a number stores and venues that don't typically survive outside of either very tourist heavy places or mega cities.
 

nbar

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Do we know what type of parking management system Disney will be using in the new garage? I parked in the Orange garage over the weekend and there were a lot of construction guys taking down the current parking management system where the sensor hangs above vehicles and tells you how many spots there are remaining.
 

Disone

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Do we know what type of parking management system Disney will be using in the new garage? I parked in the Orange garage over the weekend and there were a lot of construction guys taking down the current parking management system where the sensor hangs above vehicles and tells you how many spots there are remaining.
I believe the the sensors are being replaced, not removed. This work began a few weeks ago and the sensors were removed from Level 4 of the orange garage. More recently where the sensor used to be there us now new and longer wires dangling from the ceiling. Strong indication that more work, new sensors, are on the way. Unknown to me is whether or not this is the current vendor replacing the sensors, perhaps a warranty issue. Or whether an entirely new vendor is putting in their own system.
As far as the new garage when you drive past it and I-4 you can clearly see green lights in the ceiling above every parking spot.
 

Slov72

Member
I believe the the sensors are being replaced, not removed. This work began a few weeks ago and the sensors were removed from Level 4 of the orange garage. More recently where the sensor used to be there us now new and longer wires dangling from the ceiling. Strong indication that more work, new sensors, are on the way. Unknown to me is whether or not this is the current vendor replacing the sensors, perhaps a warranty issue. Or whether an entirely new vendor is putting in their own system.
As far as the new garage when you drive past it and I-4 you can clearly see green lights in the ceiling above every parking spot.
There was a discussion about this at some point in the past. I believe the consensus was that Disney was trying very hard to get out of their contract with the prior sensor vendor because they were not functioning as expected. They were moving forward with a new AI/video sensing solution that was supposedly much more effective and accurate. Maybe someone who remembers better or knows of the original thread could comment.
 

mandstaft

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Personally, we LOVED Disney Springs and wish we had scheduled more time to be there. The Downtown Disney thing needed to be redone. It was getting old.
 
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WhatJaneSays

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There's some sensor working going on in the Orange garage. Today they had the 2nd floor blocked off and there were a number of crews on ladders working, also the system appeared to be entirely off on the other floors with the outside signs, the row signs, and spot indicators all dark.
 

halltd

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Just in case it hasn’t been shown, here’s the current status of Orange on the fourth level. Lime appears to be further along when I parked there several days ago.

Some rows are showing correctly with only green lights where spaces are open:
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Some rows are still showing red and green:
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And here you can see the more slender “stick” with the light on the bottom is where the old sensor AND light were. New conduit and a sensor are now centered over each parking space:
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The row and floor counters are not working inside or outside of the garage as of yet.
 

mm121

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Just in case it hasn’t been shown, here’s the current status of Orange on the fourth level. Lime appears to be further along when I parked there several days ago.

Some rows are showing correctly with only green lights where spaces are open:
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Some rows are still showing red and green:
View attachment 351318

And here you can see the more slender “stick” with the light on the bottom is where the old sensor AND light were. New conduit and a sensor are now centered over each parking space:
View attachment 351320

The row and floor counters are not working inside or outside of the garage as of yet.
Don't really remember what the old ones looked like, but if these are more accurate that can only be a good thing.

Maybe the old ones couldn't pick up motorcycles etc.
 
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