There needs to be a 3 second rule.

NTI2002

New Member
oh Lord, I work in Times Square. The number of stupid tourists I have literally pushed, nay, SHOVED out of my way to get to work. it's like "Gooooolllly, loookatthe size uh that there billboard! HEY MA! GETS ME A PICTURE IN FRONT OF THIS HERE POLICE MAN!" :brick: I'm glad you're enjoying our great city, but please get the #%@& out of my way.
 

Yoop33

New Member
There should also be a 10 foot rule. The photographer should not be more then 10 feet away. Any more then this causes back up and sometimes prevents people from walking around you.
If you can't figure out how to use the camera before you take the picture then GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
People talk about being considerate but if you wait 10 seconds for someone to take a picture is that 10 seconds going to get you on a ride that much quicker?

Well, yes...10 seconds quicker if that is how long you are delayed. :)

In all seriousness, imagine if everyone was so inconsiderate as to block an entire walkway for their precious family portrait. It would be like a traffic jam on a freeway and take us hours to cross the park.

The problem is the people that live in a bubble. You know them, nothing that goes on around them is of any concern and they just float around like no one else exists. Not that other people don't matter, but that they don't exist.

Since someone standing in a walkway is not using it for it's designated use (to walk across), then yes, they are the ones who should wait and be inconvenienced. They are the ones that want to take a picture, and they are the ones that usually have a hard time with "this darn digital thing!"

So while pausing when walking so someone can take a pic is one thing, any more than just a few seconds and the person taking the picture needs to understand that WE ARE ALL there on vacation, and that their picture takes second fiddle to a mass of people walking on a walkway. The person taking the photo is in the way, not the people simply trying to navigate the park.

AEfx
 

AndyMagic

Well-Known Member
Well, yes...10 seconds quicker if that is how long you are delayed. :)

In all seriousness, imagine if everyone was so inconsiderate as to block an entire walkway for their precious family portrait. It would be like a traffic jam on a freeway and take us hours to cross the park.

The problem is the people that live in a bubble. You know them, nothing that goes on around them is of any concern and they just float around like no one else exists. Not that other people don't matter, but that they don't exist.

Since someone standing in a walkway is not using it for it's designated use (to walk across), then yes, they are the ones who should wait and be inconvenienced. They are the ones that want to take a picture, and they are the ones that usually have a hard time with "this darn digital thing!"

So while pausing when walking so someone can take a pic is one thing, any more than just a few seconds and the person taking the picture needs to understand that WE ARE ALL there on vacation, and that their picture takes second fiddle to a mass of people walking on a walkway. The person taking the photo is in the way, not the people simply trying to navigate the park.

AEfx


VERY well said! I don't mind if I have to pause my walk for a moment every now and then but the "bubble" people that you describe upset me beyond reason.
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
People talk about being considerate but if you wait 10 seconds for someone to take a picture is that 10 seconds going to get you on a ride that much quicker?

Depends on the attraction. I mean, it's nitpicky, but theoretically, you could be amongst the last to get into a certain showing of "It's Tough To Be A Bug," but that 10 second delay means other people got to the line ahead of you, and now you'll be amongst the first to take in the following show. Another 15 minutes or so in line you would not have had to endure had you not taken 10 seconds for someone else to take their picture. You can apply that sort of logic to all sorts or attractions, from the Tiki Birds to SGE to any of the stage shows. 10 seconds could mean the difference between getting into a show or waiting for the following show. You just hope karma will bear out (or no one in your party will want to use the bathroom that day-ever) and you'll get to other things more quickly over the course of the day, and it'll all balance out.
 

One Lil Spark

EPCOT Center Defender
In theory, it's a good idea to have some form of universal, standard rule about picture taking in congested and even semi-empty areas, but come on. Seriously. Who would enforce this? It's not like a Photo Nazi CM is going to walk around kicking people out of the parks for taking a moment to commemorate their vacations. :lol: :p
 

Dukeblue1016

New Member
There's really no point to it though... I mean, if myself and my girlfriend came up to you all friendly and asked you to take our picture (somewhere that we wouldn't be in the way and people wouldn't have to wait for us)... would you say no because from the time I hand you my camera, then get back to her, pose, you take the picture, hand me the camera... thats gonna take like 15 seconds at least... is that too much out of your way??? Shouldn't be... plus how many pictures do you have? Pictures ARE your memories... let people have theirs... again, AT THE MOST it only takes up .14% of your waking vacation... .14% of the time you have... how is .14% of your time too much for someone else? I don't understand that...
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
In theory, it's a good idea to have some form of universal, standard rule about picture taking in congested and even semi-empty areas, but come on. Seriously. Who would enforce this? It's not like a Photo Nazi CM is going to walk around kicking people out of the parks for taking a moment to commemorate their vacations. :lol: :p

Oh yes, that would be a nightmare.

However, most rules do come about because people don't show common sense. I don't think people on either side of the issue would actually care in a park situation if a few seconds was wasted on either parties part; as with most things in life, treat people how you want to be treated and (especially at WDW) hope to expect the same.

As usual in these discussions about park behavior, the issue is really those inconsiderate sods who live in that little bubble I described above and who ignore you and your experience until you in any way affect their bubble of selfishness and then you are the enemy because you dared enter their conciousness.

Very few people go to WDW to be a jerk. They do exist, and we should stay away from them when at all possible, but most people would be so much happier in the parks if everyone else would just give an ounce more consideration, which prevents pounds of icky, non-Magical feelings.

AEfx
 

One Lil Spark

EPCOT Center Defender
As usual in these discussions about park behavior, the issue is really those inconsiderate sods who live in that little bubble I described above and who ignore you and your experience until you in any way affect their bubble of selfishness and then you are the enemy because you dared enter their conciousness.
AEfx
The way that I look at it personally is that WDW is magical. Most of the magic is provided by WDW cast, ambience, etc. Some of it though is supplied by the fellow park go'ers around you that do random acts of kindness that make your day even further than the park itself.

If I can help make anyone else's trip become more magical, I will. Whether that means offering to take a picture for someone, or stopping myself as well as a few people around me so that someone can capture a memory or two, so be it.

I would only hope that people would do the same for me on my magical vacation. :wave:
 

Dukeblue1016

New Member
The way that I look at it personally is that WDW is magical. Most of the magic is provided by WDW cast, ambience, etc. Some of it though is supplied by the fellow park go'ers around you that do random acts of kindness that make your day even further than the park itself.

If I can help make anyone else's trip become more magical, I will. Whether that means offering to take a picture for someone, or stopping myself as well as a few people around me so that someone can capture a memory or two, so be it.

I would only hope that people would do the same for me on my magical vacation. :wave:


I'm glad someone else is 100% in the same boat as me... I enjoy watching people take their pictures... because chances are... I have a photo album at home from 1990 with me in front of whatever their taking a picture of... so its just a cycle, sort of...
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
Actually DH and I often will ask a person who's taking a picture if they would like us to take it so they can be in the picture too. It only takes a few seconds of our time, and people really appreciate it.
 

One Lil Spark

EPCOT Center Defender
Actually DH and I often will ask a person who's taking a picture if they would like us to take it so they can be in the picture too. It only takes a few seconds of our time, and people really appreciate it.
And by taking a little more than just 3 seconds you have successfully helped revive someone's faith in humanity as well as made their vacation a little better! :sohappy:
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
Depends on the attraction. I mean, it's nitpicky, but theoretically, you could be amongst the last to get into a certain showing of "It's Tough To Be A Bug," but that 10 second delay means other people got to the line ahead of you, and now you'll be amongst the first to take in the following show. Another 15 minutes or so in line you would not have had to endure had you not taken 10 seconds for someone else to take their picture. You can apply that sort of logic to all sorts or attractions, from the Tiki Birds to SGE to any of the stage shows. 10 seconds could mean the difference between getting into a show or waiting for the following show. You just hope karma will bear out (or no one in your party will want to use the bathroom that day-ever) and you'll get to other things more quickly over the course of the day, and it'll all balance out.

Wow! I guess I just don't get it. I go to Disney to have fun and relax, not rush around like I'm in a race. I guess I'm luck that those 10 seconds hasn't stopped me from missing a show because if I would have had to wait for the next show I might have died waiting for the next one! Unfortunately, my karma never carried over because my party and I do have to take stops for the bathroom, sometimes more than once. And darn it we also enjoy little breaks on benches to enjoy the scenery, I guess we are missing out on that rushing around.
 

Glasgow

Well-Known Member
I don't know that the actual issue here is having to wait 2 or 3 seconds when you are walking along. I think the issue is that some folks don't acknowledge that there are others around them, just in general (you know the people - "We were here first so you can just wait - it's my RIGHT"). There is a difference between those folks and the ones who are just simply trying to herd their families together to taken that one perfect shot for their vacation.

Politeness is at a premium these days - change it up a little and make someone else's day
 

Dwarful

Well-Known Member
I think it also depends on the size of the group. It can take longer to get 12 people looking in the same direction, eyes open than it does 2 or 3. I am taking a group of 40 with my daughters girl scout troop in June of '07. I am going to drill into the kids the photo rules....get into form quickly, then....1.2.3 say "Cardinals" and I will take 2 of that pose. that will hopefully ensure that if half the people look good in the first pose and half look good in the second..then everyone will have a good photo for their own album.
 

brich

New Member
No, I'm not talking about the amount of time food can be on the floor before it is unedible...I'm talking about the amount of time one should be required to wait for someone to take a picture, especially if that person is blocking a major walkway.

It amazes me how uncourteous people can be, they figure they can just block all of traffic for however long it takes to get the perfect shot. I'll gladly stop, give 3 or 4 seconds, and if they don't get it by then, too bad, they'll either have to wait for me to pass, or have me in the picture.

When I'm taking such a picture, I'll either wait for it to clear, or be prepared to have the picture done in 3 seconds. Any longer than that is too disruptive to everyone else. 1 second to aim. 1 second to snap. 1 second for picture to finish.

Here we go again... a debate on who the real inconsiderate one is...
Simple, slow down and enjoy life. A photograph is a lifelong memory that exists long after the people in it do. God forbid your inconvenienced by a photographer taking a photo of a family who has a member with a terminal illness. That 4th second that is inconveniencing you is 4 seconds that terminally ill person will no longer be here to enjoy all that you take for granted... When it comes to simple inconveniences like having to stand still for more than 3 seconds while someone takes a picture, take those seconds to be thankful for things you have in life. Watch the photo being taken and look at those smiles and realize your 4 seconds of consideration could result in a lifetime of memories for someone less fortunate... Get over yourself.:mad:

Now go back to your silly little rule making game... but hurry, times a wasting...:rolleyes:
 

raven

Well-Known Member
I am a pretty easy-going person but this one has always bothered me.

Some people think that by putting the people (the subject of the photo) on one side of the path then having the camera on the other side of the path is a great picture. Personally I think those photos always come out bad and the people are so far away from the camera that it's difficult to tell who it is. Meanwhile, throngs of people have to wait becasue the entire path is blocked by the photographer trying to stop people from crossing.

This has happened to me at WDW SO many times that I can't even count anymore. They've taken anywhere between 15 sec-2min to take the picture. There are better ways to take a picture without disrupting other guests vacations.

So sorry, in advance, if I might be a little irritated if I push through. But most of the other guests I have observed waiting feel the same way.
 

musketeer

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Here we go again... a debate on who the real inconsiderate one is...
Simple, slow down and enjoy life. A photograph is a lifelong memory that exists long after the people in it do. God forbid your inconvenienced by a photographer taking a photo of a family who has a member with a terminal illness. That 4th second that is inconveniencing you is 4 seconds that terminally ill person will no longer be here to enjoy all that you take for granted... When it comes to simple inconveniences like having to stand still for more than 3 seconds while someone takes a picture, take those seconds to be thankful for things you have in life. Watch the photo being taken and look at those smiles and realize your 4 seconds of consideration could result in a lifetime of memories for someone less fortunate... Get over yourself.:mad:

Now go back to your silly little rule making game... but hurry, times a wasting...:rolleyes:

Terminally ill??? So you are saying that everyone who takes a picture and blocks traffic is doing it for someone who is terminally ill? This thread has nothing to do with the terminally ill. I don't understand how it went that direction. Sorry, I don't go through life thinking how every thing I do might affect someone who is terminally ill.
 

musketeer

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
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This has happened to me at WDW SO many times that I can't even count anymore. They've taken anywhere between 15 sec-2min to take the picture. There are better ways to take a picture without disrupting other guests vacations.

How dare you!!! Think of those 15 sec to 2 min that that personal who has a terminal illness might not have!!!

Don't you go through life thinking that all the time!?!?! If you don't, how awful of a person you are!!!

(i'm kidding, just in case you didn't see the response a few replies up)
 

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