Theme Parks Allow Visitors to Skip Lines

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Theme Parks Allow Visitors to Skip Lines
By JOHN SEEWER
Mon Jul 19, 3:28 AM ET

SANDUSKY, Ohio (Associated Press) -- Long, dreary and crowded waits can take the wind out of even the most eager thrill seeker. So to keep guests happy, amusement parks these days are using beepers, special tickets and hand stamps to encourage people to cut the line.

Front of the line privileges for popular rides cost extra at some parks and are free at others. Parks benefit because less time standing means visitors can spend money in shops and restaurants instead.

"No matter where you are people are generally impatient," said Chris Knauf, assistant manager of ride operations at Cedar Point amusement park, which gives out hand stamps that allow visitors to skip ahead later.

The trend began five years ago with the FastPass reservation system at Walt Disney World's Animal Kingdom, and has trickled down to regional theme parks. Long waits had topped the list of complaints, said parks spokesman Dave Herbst.

So the park came up with a solution. Visitors can avoid standing in packed queues for the top 26 attractions, including The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror and Space Mountain.

Guest surveys show that those who use FastPass, which tells guests when to show up for the ride, have a better experience and are able to see 25 percent more attractions and shows.

"We're hitting at the one thing they dislike," said Todd Evans, manager for attractions at the Florida parks.

While the Disney system is free, Six Flags parks charge a fee for getting to the front.

Six Flags, with 28 theme and water parks nationwide, sells front of the line tickets at most of its parks. Five parks rent an electronic device that works like a pager.

The costs vary at each park. At Six Flags Over Texas and Six Flags Over Georgia it costs $10 to rent the device and another $10 for each person using it.

Guests insert the palm-sized device at a sign near the ride and reserve their time to come back and get on a roller coaster with little or no wait. The device, called a Q-Bot, vibrates and beeps when it's time to ride.

The system was developed by an English company, Lo-Q, and is used at Six Flags parks in New Jersey, Texas, Massachusetts, Missouri and Georgia.

Leah Moss, director of Lo-Q's U.S. operation near Atlanta, said more people would visit amusement parks if they knew they could avoid waits.

"We're looking at people who work really long hours and don't have much leisure time," she said. "People have more money than time these days."

Not everyone thinks it's fair for some guests to buy their way to the front.

Sean Flaharty, a roller coaster enthusiast from Columbus, said the system can produce longer lines. Some parks reserve coaster seats for people who have front of the line passes, and those seats sometimes go unfilled.

"I can see why people get angry because that makes the line actually go slower," said Flaharty.

To make sure there aren't problems, some Six Flags parks have put employees in the lines to explain how Q-Bot works.

"The program is fair because people are still waiting for rides," said Kristin Siebeneicher, a spokeswoman for Six Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey. "They just can do other things while they wait."

The park typically rents 250 of the devices on an average day.

Amusement park operators say the front of the line systems are popular. At Disney, at least half of all visitors use FastPass on a typical day. The number of Q-Bot users at Six Flags doubled last year to about 750,000.

Cedar Point has a more low-tech solution to long waits. Its hand stamps allows guests to bypass the lines on six of the park's 16 roller coasters.

The stamps are free and available to anyone willing to wait from a few minutes to a half-hour. Lines start forming early, and a day's supply of stamps for the two top coasters can be gone in half an hour.

Greg McNeely, of Lafayette, Ind., who was waiting to get a hand stamp at Cedar Point, said his family can't wait in long lines because their son has diabetes and needs regular snacks and two insulin shots each day.

"This allows us to plan our day and make sure he has everything he needs," McNeely said.
 

MichRX7

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I've always thought that people who "waaaah" about the whole fastpass system are just mad at themselves for not being smart enough to have gotten a FP earlier in the day. :lookaroun
 

CubbieMan

New Member
I can't see myself paying cash to get to the front of the lines on the rides at six flag parks...then again I can't see paying cash to enter a six flags park
 
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joviacdan

MichRX7 said:
I've always thought that people who "waaaah" about the whole fastpass system are just mad at themselves for not being smart enough to have gotten a FP earlier in the day. :lookaroun

I love fastpass. I use it all the time.

My only complaint about it is that it's sold out on very busy days at certain attractions. Actually, the idea that it's not always open doesn't make alot of sense to me. I know people say "Well, it's not busy, so keeping it open isn't justifiable."

I don't understand that. I mean, does it really cost that much money for the paper the passes are printed on?

The way I see it is, Splash Mountain might not be overly crowded at 9:00AM, but it's possible, we have reservations for breakfast at 9:15, and we don't want to have to wait inline afterwards. So, why not just keep it open?
 

Disnycrazy

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I think that the Fastpass System is much better then any of the systems at any of the parks. Especially the parks that you have to pay to get to the front of the line are they kidding. I mean you pay so much to get into the park on a daily basis and then they want you to pay extra to not have to wait in line. Give me a Break.......
 
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joviacdan

Disnycrazy said:
I think that the Fastpass System is much better then any of the systems at any of the parks. Especially the parks that you have to pay to get to the front of the line are they kidding. I mean you pay so much to get into the park on a daily basis and then they want you to pay extra to not have to wait in line. Give me a Break.......

I agree. I think that is an absolute disgrace that they would have the audacity to do that.

I can't fathom Disney ever doing anything like that to their customers.

That's what I love about Disney. They're always trying to do things that will keep their loyal customers coming back - Not screwing them over the second they walk through the gate.

Don't get me wrong - Disney is trying to make money too. But their philosophy seems to be make things better to keep customers coming back. Not trying to make as much off of them in one visit as they possibly can.

And it works. I live an hour from Six Flags New England, and I've never been there. I live 1,300 miles from Disney World, I've been there twice this year, and I'm going 2 more times in the next 7 months.
 

phlydude

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I live almost smack-dab between Six Flags Great America and Six Flags Great Adventure. I haven't been to Six Flags since I was 6 years old (23 years ago). I would rather drive to Hershey Park or Knoebles Park in Bloomsburg, PA than Six Flags.

Of course, I go to WDW most!!
 

wannab@dis

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Greg McNeely, of Lafayette, Ind., who was waiting to get a hand stamp at Cedar Point, said his family can't wait in long lines because their son has diabetes and needs regular snacks and two insulin shots each day.
hmm... seems like WDW wins in another method also. I would think that family would be able to use the medical pass with a dr notice.
 

Tim G

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CubbieMan said:
I can't see myself paying cash to get to the front of the lines on the rides at six flag parks...then again I can't see paying cash to enter a six flags park
Well...most of the visitors at Universal do...
 

slappy magoo

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I live less than an hour away from Six Flags Great Adventure in Jackson, NJ.

Usually, IF I go at all, it's on a weekday in June, before the schools let out. I'll take a day off, hit all the rollercoasters and be done with it.

I'm not about to do any hard core keister-smooching for WDW where it's not deserved, but compared to SFGA at least, they do a remarkable job of handling lines of people. Not just with Fastpass, but actually making the queueing area interesting to see. SFGA has been trying that with some of their rides, but more often than not the effort comes across as half-baked at best. At one point they installed monitors on rides with long lines that mostly included commercials and movie trailers, as well as the occasional WB cartoon or safe-for-the-masses music video.

Add to that is the wait in line versus time on ride. People complain about Dumbo only being 90 seconds long? Most rides at SFGA aren't 90 seconds long! Some of the older rides, like their original Log Flume, give you a minute or two to enjoy yourself, but it seems like any ride they've built since I hit puberty is designed to move people on and off as quickly as possible with no thought to the ride itself. For all the money I spend to get to WDW I almost always feel like I got my money's worth. It seems like they genuinely want to give you SOMETHING for the money you spend. At Six Flags, I almost feel like entertaining me is an afterthought. If they could figure out a way to have a basket outside the entrance where I could throw my money and disappear, they'd be happy. I usually go with a buy one, get one free coupon and I STILL feel like I got hosed.

Add to that the fact that they now expect me to PAY to cut in line? I am disgusted and appalled by this. Have they burned out every other conceivable way to spend money? I bet they have a half dozen attempted revolts every day by people who find out that rich kids and drug dealers are buying their way to the front of the line while they've been shelling out 35-55 dollars for each child or adult to wait on line in the sweltering sun for hours to ride a rollercoaster that's in motion for 45 seconds max.

I know WDW isn't perfect, but go to SFGA and you'll go back to thinking WDW is truly Shangri-La, warts and all.
 

GoofMaul

New Member
I must say when I read the subject line it made me think of the first time I went to IOA and there were a bunch of highschool age kids cutting in front of everyone. We reported them to one of the line attendants and, no joke, she said "there's nothing I can really do about that." Huh? At the very least make them get out of line since they were cutting in front of everyone.

Anyway, I agree with everyone here. I live an hour away from SF Great America and I haven't been there in over ten years and don't want to go. I had some friends visit there this past weekend and they came back and told me how dirty the park was and the park was in major need of rehab with paint peeling everywhere. No thank you. :fork:

I always look forward to my next WDW trip as I know I will enjoy the experience and the parks and hotel stay will meet my every expectation. :sohappy:
 

RalphieN

Member
We're about 2 hours from Six Flags Great Adventure and went there last summer for a day for the first time in 15 years and I quickly remembered why it had been so long. Once you've been to Walt Disney World, these other poor places just can't compare.

My dislike of the place began when they wouldn't let us bring in drinks and snacks like Disney does but the icing on the cake was the Q-Bot things or whatever they're called that would cost my family an extra $60 to get. I couldn't believe they were charging extra for the things. I had the $60, don't get me wrong, but refused to give it to them for something that should've come with admission.
 

corran horn

Well-Known Member
I've done this at IoA. My stepdad wanted to go and it was a hot day so we didn't want to be there all day but still wanted to hit everything. I don't remember their pricing but it wasn't out of line. Basically gave us a one-time-use fastpass to every ride they have there.
 

davids92

New Member
Six Flags

I was at Six Flags New England on Saturday and waited a half hour for the river rapids ride then a storm came by that closed it down and it reopened after the storm passed by we went back there and we had to wait another half hour for a rapids ride that is shorter and isn't as good as Kali River rapids

I refused to pay $30 for two of us to avoid the wait using the Q bot.

Fast Pass is so much better not charging anything.
 

tigger248

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joviacdan said:
I love fastpass. I use it all the time.

My only complaint about it is that it's sold out on very busy days at certain attractions. Actually, the idea that it's not always open doesn't make alot of sense to me. I know people say "Well, it's not busy, so keeping it open isn't justifiable."

I don't understand that. I mean, does it really cost that much money for the paper the passes are printed on?

The way I see it is, Splash Mountain might not be overly crowded at 9:00AM, but it's possible, we have reservations for breakfast at 9:15, and we don't want to have to wait inline afterwards. So, why not just keep it open?

While it does stink that fast passes run out, they have to draw the line somewhere otherwise they couldn't call them fastpasses because the line for fast pass would be longer than the standby line.

Also, on the days that fast pass doesn't open, they really don't need it. The lines are usually 30 minutes or less on those days so there really isn't much of a need for fast pass. Also on the cost factor, the paper may not be expensive, but labor costs are. On a day when the lines are short, it would be justifiable to not open fast pass because for every fast pass location you have to pay a fast pass greeter and a person to work at the machines. You may also need an extra loader at the entrance to help with the second line. Those labor costs can add up and become expensive.

I also agree that the parks that charge are a rip off. I work at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom (which by the way is about as far away from disney standards as you can get) and our system isn't q-bot but it's called fast lane and it costs $10 for 5 rides. I think that is a rediculous fee and if I ever visited as a guest I wouldn't pay it. But other systems can be worse. I've heard that q-bot is worse than fast lane although I've never really dealt with it. I also don't really like universals but I haven't really used it in awhile. I don't like how universal resort guests get unlimited express passes and how you can also buy unlimited ones. I think Disney's is best because it is fair across the board to everyone.
 

LoriMistress

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CubbieMan said:
I can't see myself paying cash to get to the front of the lines on the rides at six flag parks...then again I can't see paying cash to enter a six flags park

I paid $10 for a friend and myself to get in front of the lines at Six Flags one time and it was a life saver. Hardly anyone used the "First in Line" passes and the parks were crowded. The longest we waited was five minutes and made our trip so much mor enjoyable. I think it all depends what time of year, time of day, and if the parks is going to be packed or not.
 

Shaman

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One of the good things at Universal is, that if you stay at one of their resorts, one of the perks is skipping the lines at all the rides, all the time (at both parks). Just show your room key, and you skip the line. I think Disney should try this...depending on your resort area, you get unlimited "fast pass" to all the rides in that park. For example, you're staying at The Boardwalk, you get to skip all the lines at Epcot, all the time...just show your room key. I figure Disney hasn't tried this because at this point they aren't really having problems filling resorts with guest...but I think the future it would definitely bring in more business for resorts.

Just some thoughts...
 

Scooter

Well-Known Member
I think the thing that makes Disney's Fast pass system better than all the rest is the fact that it's a little more discrete. You don't just barge up to the front of the line in front of everyone and get on a ride/attraction.

At Disney, there's always a separate line or wall for fast pass holders so you don't get that "You must think you're better than me" stare from the non-fast passers. Well...you DO still get it but it's not as obvious. :lol:

I like the Disney Fast pass system and think it's great if you know how to use it to your advantage.

For Example: My wife and I go into the Land Pavillian, get a fast pass for the Living With The Land ride and then eat lunch at the Sunshine Food Fare. By the time we are done with our lunch and desert, our fast pass time has come up and it's time for us to go on the ride.

Having said all this I still have a problem with the Winnie The Pooh Fast Pass.
For some reason this attraction if the WORST when it comes to Fast Passes.
Sometimes the Fast Pass line is almost as long as the Stand By line.
The Stand By line really moves slow BECAUSE of the Fast Pass and I've seen ALOT of people get steamed over this, myself included.

This is one ride that shouldn't, in MY opinion, have a fast pass. :lookaroun
 

imagineerfan

New Member
phlydude said:
I live almost smack-dab between Six Flags Great America and Six Flags Great Adventure. I haven't been to Six Flags since I was 6 years old (23 years ago). I would rather drive to Hershey Park or Knoebles Park in Bloomsburg, PA than Six Flags.

Of course, I go to WDW most!!

I deffinetly agree. Last time I was at Six Flags Great America so many rides were closed down. It looked like a ghost park, hardly any customers walking around (they were all waiting in hour long lines) and only a small amount of rides open. Disney will always number one on my list, but when I cant go there I head to "the sweetest park on earth" Hersheypark :)
 

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