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Theme Park attendance numbers
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coolmark18
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Cant find their site but the reports are usually called TEA/ERA.
Google link:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...q=2&aqi=g3&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=a5a83db4b436d47e
Google link:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...q=2&aqi=g3&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=a5a83db4b436d47e
Orange Bird
Member
Last year they put the 2009 report out on April 16. I don't think 2010 is out yet. It is called the "TEA/ERA Theme Park Attendance Report." Google it on tax day.
Orange Bird
Member
Wikipedia has the numbers from 2009, but not the downloadable report...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_park_attendance_figures
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
I have the attendance numbers from 1998-1999, 2001, 2003-2009
JimboJones123
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I am VERY interested in the World of Color impact on DCA.
Should be VERY interesting. Also, will those numbers impact Disneyland.
I would expect about a 1.5 million add to DCA, and a slight dip at Disneyland. Not much, but still an overall 1 million guest jump at the two parks combined.
In fact, the with the addition of Carsland and Mermaid I wouldn't be shocked if DCA passes AK and DHS in 2013.
I also wouldn't be shocked of IoA passed US. Kind of makes the new coaster at US pointless. I thought it was a very generic waste of $$$.
Should be VERY interesting. Also, will those numbers impact Disneyland.
I would expect about a 1.5 million add to DCA, and a slight dip at Disneyland. Not much, but still an overall 1 million guest jump at the two parks combined.
In fact, the with the addition of Carsland and Mermaid I wouldn't be shocked if DCA passes AK and DHS in 2013.
I also wouldn't be shocked of IoA passed US. Kind of makes the new coaster at US pointless. I thought it was a very generic waste of $$$.
Orange Bird
Member
I respectfully disagree. The coaster at USF was a relatively low investment and probably avoided some cannibalization from IOA's WWOHP. When you have a multi-park operation and you open something big at one park, it is important to open something marketable at all of your parks to avoid having one park increase attendance at the expense of the others. WDW played this masterfully in 2005-2006 (Everest, Stitch, Soarin', Lights Motors Action). All of DAK's new attendance came at Universal's expense. I think they got schooled. But they seem to have taken the lesson to heart.
GrumpyFan
Well-Known Member
I have most of the numbers from 1989 thru 2009, with a few exceptions that I guestimated on. Take a look here and let me know if see anything that's off.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AjsL9DI5I5dlcGxxMHh3NnlNc1NzLTNFSDJ2MkVLVXc&hl=en
I try to keep it updated as new numbers come out, and as I find any changes in historical attendance.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
I sent you my e-mail address, I'm sure we can come up with some pretty accurate #s between the two of us.
Giraffe Lounge
Member
Once available, the report should show-up online here: http://www.teaconnect.org/publications
Jimmy Thick
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I would be interested in the numbers for Universal, only because of the impact the new Harry Potter area is not as great as people are making it out to be, or how its this huge threat to Disney World.
Jimmy Thick- Its has like 3 attractions...
Jimmy Thick- Its has like 3 attractions...
Condorman
Active Member
The Walt Disney Company stated last year that they will no longer be releasing attendance numbers for any of their theme parks. Any "official" report which claims to post said numbers of Disney theme parks from 2010 forward is only issuing their opinions and not actual attendance.
JustInTime
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Orange Bird
Member
The ERA is the company founded by Buzz Price and has been doing this work since 1984 when Disney stopped announcing Their numbers. They have a lot of respect in the industry.
Disney stated last year that they would not sepperate out financial figures for WDW and DLR. They haven't announced attendance figures in 27 years.
Condorman
Active Member
When you don't have access to the company's internal figures, it's nothing more than opinion mixed with best-guess-timation. TEA/ERA can be wrong, off, or skewed by +/- one million in any direction. Anyone who accepts their results as the closest possible gospel are probably the same ones who use TP.com, or the like. Claiming to know ride wait times and calendar predictions based on previous dates is wrong on so many levels. Pass performance is not indicative of future results. Again, in an industry with millions of guests spending billions of dollars, either you're spot on or you're dead wrong. But if TP.com and TEA/ERA can make a business off people's gullibility, so be it.
That said, I'll play the game. According to the "industry," in 2009 IoA had 4.5 million attendees. In 2010, thanks to Harry Potter, that grew by 36%. Heck, let's spot 'em another 14% just to be nice guys. So with a 50% bump, IoA saw 6.75 million attendees in 2010.
Meanwhile, again, according to the "industry," DAK -- the least attended park in WDW -- had 9.1 million in 2009, and we can assume at least the same for 2010. So even with WWoHP, Universal still didn't come anywhere near Disney.
Here endeth the lesson.
I always thought that TP was predicting ride times and park attendance. I didn't know they were claiming to know it.
GrumpyFan
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't call it a best guesstimate. Perhaps an educated guesstimate.
Here's what they have to say about it in the TEA/AECOM 2009 report:
AECOM obtains the figures used to create the TEA/AECOM Attraction Attendance Report through a variety of sources, including statistics furnished directly by the operators, historical numbers, financial reports, the investment banking community and local tourism organizations, among others.
So, take it for what it costs. And, for the fact that it comes from the Internet, which we all know is 100% accurate, all the time. :animwink: