Iger couldn't hold Wells' jockstrap with a forklift.He could've been the next Wells, if Eisner had named him instead of Ovitz. Iger would've grown into it and he would've been as effective as Wells, and Eisner wouldn't have chosen to micromanage.
Iger couldn't hold Wells' jockstrap with a forklift.He could've been the next Wells, if Eisner had named him instead of Ovitz. Iger would've grown into it and he would've been as effective as Wells, and Eisner wouldn't have chosen to micromanage.
This company is not WORSE off, it's far better off. Disney is in a very healthy shape, a company that has no fundamental problems other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes. These brands are firing on all cylinders, but the press has a vested interest to put its thumb on the scale and knock the company down, a case of tall poppy syndrome write large. And shorts are artificially depressing the stock price, it should easily be 110 by now. The fact that shorts have 10 percent of the shares is despicable.So is that why Bob is doing with an amplification factor now?
Did any of you not live through the “post heart attack eisner” years?
Cause this much worse. Just with a higher stock price. But the markets are gambling now and companies used to have to actually put up the numbers to get bumps.
Big difference.
And speaking of heart attacks…how old is Bob?
So why can’t we get around to succession for 15 years?
Because this is a grade school playground issue ego game. Has been for years. Roberts conned him into overpaying for Fox and he swallowed the hook with little effort…
And yet how many just can’t bring themselves to criticize him or recognize any of the problem?
Just can’t do it.
1. You can be a huge of Disney and criticize it. The two are not exclusive of each other. There are many of us who are HUGE fans and don’t want it to implode based on bad management.
2. Bob Iger is not Disney. You want to be a fan of Disney? Act like one. Want to be a fan of Bob? That’s cool too.
However those things ARE mutually exclusive.
Root for the laundry
They're not struggling, they only APPEAR that way because that's what the press is selling you. But it isn't true. The butthurt fanboys aren't right, never have been right and never will be right. They haven't been right even back when they were content to be Lucas bashers, before they conveniently shifted their positions.Any of those not struggling?
And espn - don’t start…
It’s a carcass of what it was: which paid for most of the Disney produce we see today for 15 years. But that time is past
The only people I ever see who think espn isn’t going down are college football fans…
And they’re gonna have to WAY expand the schedule if that’s what you got?
Holy moly…I stopped reading when you said this company has “no fundamental problems other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes”This company is not WORSE off, it's far better off. Disney is in a very healthy shape, a company that has no fundamental problems other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes. These brands are firing on all cylinders, but the press has a vested interest to put its thumb on the scale and knock the company down, a case of tall poppy syndrome write large. And shorts are artificially depressing the stock price, it should easily be 110 by now. The fact that shorts have 10 percent of the shares is despicable.
Remember, Murdoch could've easily told Comcast to pound sand and say, "We made our deal with Disney, we're not changing it, the bidding is closed." After all, Maker Studios refused to entertain Relativity Media's offer saying "We're gonna stick with Disney." A company can easily choose a lower bid. So all your point about that purchase points out that Disney could've easily waited it out for Murdoch to say "We're not changing horses."
Of course you can be a fan of Disney and still criticize it. That's what happened in the tail end of the Eisner era, and deservedly so. But this era is NOT like Eisner's, no matter how much you try to claim it is so. Iger has proven himself in his tenure, and he's still doing it now. You don't live to be 100 years old as a company if things are fundamentally wrong.
Let's also remember, even Eisner's end wasn't Disney's darkest hour. That was in between WWII and Disneyland, when Walt was still alive.
All your pretending otherwise doesn't make it so.Holy moly…I stopped reading when you said this company has “no fundamental problems other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes”
You don't know that, simply because Eisner didn't give that chance. If he'd been named instead of Ovitz, things would've been very different, especially in having Eisner's tenure end on a much happier note.Iger couldn't hold Wells' jockstrap with a forklift.
You have GOT to be joking if you think the only problem with Disney is G+ and LLs. Pixie dust must have got in your eyes and blinded youAll your pretending otherwise doesn't make it so.
All your pretending otherwise doesn't make it so.
YOU'VE got to be joking if you think the words of fanboys and these gossip vultures has any credibility.You have GOT to be joking if you think the only problem with Disney is G+ and LLs. Pixie dust must have got in your eyes and blinded you
You aren’t really experienced enough to make that judgment…frankly.This company is not WORSE off, it's far better off. Disney is in a very healthy shape, a company that has no fundamental problems other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes. These brands are firing on all cylinders, but the press has a vested interest to put its thumb on the scale and knock the company down, a case of tall poppy syndrome write large. And shorts are artificially depressing the stock price, it should easily be 110 by now. The fact that shorts have 10 percent of the shares is despicable.
Remember, Murdoch could've easily told Comcast to pound sand and say, "We made our deal with Disney, we're not changing it, the bidding is closed." After all, Maker Studios refused to entertain Relativity Media's offer saying "We're gonna stick with Disney." A company can easily choose a lower bid. So all your point about that purchase points out that Disney could've easily waited it out for Murdoch to say "We're not changing horses."
Of course you can be a fan of Disney and still criticize it. That's what happened in the tail end of the Eisner era, and deservedly so. But this era is NOT like Eisner's, no matter how much you try to claim it is so. Iger has proven himself in his tenure, and he's still doing it now. You don't live to be 100 years old as a company if things are fundamentally wrong.
Let's also remember, even Eisner's end wasn't Disney's darkest hour. That was in between WWII and Disneyland, when Walt was still alive.
Someone must need a dole whipYOU'VE got to be joking if you think the words of fanboys and these gossip vultures has any credibility.
The films are doing well. Quantumania was NOT a flop. TLM is going to make it to $700 million overall, and it's still got a lot of time to play overseas, even in some NA markets. Elemental is catching fire and will be in the black. Haunted Mansion and Chevalier will do fantastic. Indy is a license to print money, regardless of its faults. The MCU is thriving.When you are a publically traded company and you spend more to produce and advertise films than you receive in revenue, that would be considered a problem.
Iger is creative too, and they would've been a great team in the vein of what Eisner and Wells did. Iger would've had Disney buy Pixar and Lucasfilm earlier, ABC would've had an easier time, the parks strategy (especially for Anaheim and Paris) would've been better executed. They would've done great things together.You aren’t really experienced enough to make that judgment…frankly.
Do a lot of management analysis in vitro or in pre-K?
That’s the timeline
I’m talking about the Management issues and dynamics…not just the ledger.
Two things you need to understand:
Michael Eisner was far more creative and a better judge of where to go from a management standpoint than Bob Iger.
But he stayed too long and had a stronger personally. It was long past his time.
HINT!!
2. All the stuff Bob bought for that ledger he sold stock on (now at a Discount 50% off! Like prime day)…came from the infrastructure by the dudes before him. You can’t buy Fox for way TOO much if you Didnt expand the parks, the movie studios, buy abc/espn and put Disney product in all Those homes.
You and Supe should get together and be WRONG about everything at Starbucks or a cold brew place?
You lost me at films are doing wellThe films are doing well. Quantumania was NOT a flop. TLM is going to make it to $700 million overall, and it's still got a lot of time to play overseas, even in some NA markets. Elemental is catching fire and will be in the black. Haunted Mansion and Chevalier will do fantastic. Indy is a license to print money, regardless of its faults. The MCU is thriving.
But everyone conveniently moves the goalposts and overexaggerates the cost to call these things flops when they aren't.
You lost me at Iger is creativeIger is creative too, and they would've been a great team in the vein of what Eisner and Wells did. Iger would've had Disney buy Pixar and Lucasfilm earlier, ABC would've had an easier time, the parks strategy (especially for Anaheim and Paris) would've been better executed. They would've done great things together.
Iger was the person needed after Eisner, case closed. You and others like you attempting to call him "David Zaslav-lite" is simply and categorically false. The company did great things under Iger and will continue to do great things. Especially if he's hinting that firing John Lasseter over allegations that were never proven was the wrong move, and we'll soon see him coming home to Pixar. Between that and the overtures to get Johnny Depp to return to do a proper Pirates sequel, things are looking good, indeed.
You lost me at you not being creative or original in your retorts.You lost me at Iger is creative
You lost me at you not being creative or original in your retorts.
I don’t have to be creative. I visit the parks often and have my eyes open. That’s all it takes if you don’t worship the mouseYou lost me at you not being creative or original in your retorts.
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